View Full Version : Indian niche: Best use of my time?
Dagwolf
2005-03-14, 02:13 AM
I want to use my time efficiently. In order to do this I need to promote the most undersaturated niche. From what I'm seeing, it's the Indian niche.
I've come to the following tentative conclusions.
1. Indian sites convert at an average or better rate compared to other niche sites
2. It's easier to get traffic to an Indian site because there aren't as many.
Is this true? I'm basing this on information from sources I don't know very well and I may even be misreading what I'm seeing.
Kinky
2005-03-14, 02:34 AM
:D I thought the same way you did about the indian niche, and built some sites promoting it, but couldn't find a site that converted good for me, I sent 4 or 5 sponsor sites each like 1500+ clicks off link list traffic and only got a few signups and a couple chargebacks, but it could have been my weak sales skills or the traffic just wasn't from the right places, I do know that some people make a good chunk of change off of the niche, maybe you would have better luck... it is one of the niches that not a ton of people promote yet |thumb I'm thinking of giving it another go after learning a few things from hanging around this board for awhile
Head Boy
2005-03-14, 04:21 AM
I get the feeling that the big market is ex-pat Indian men. I've been wondering if I should add some comments in Gujarati to see if I can pull some in.
Trouble is - I only speak English and a bit of American. :)
Agent
2005-03-14, 04:39 AM
I considered that niche also. I began by doing some searches on google and looking at various sponsor sites. I came up short with both. No one seems to be promoting the niche because there are no real Indian sponosor sites. I've come across a few Indian sponsors but they didn't feature REAL East Indian women (some had Ebony girl content doctored to look Indian).
Mateusz
2005-03-14, 05:01 AM
I got through different niches while building free sites but so far I made 3 indian sites and got no signups :(
tickler
2005-03-14, 05:56 AM
I wonder if maybe the traffic for that niche is too much "Indian". Knowing CC companies, and their foreign CB rules, it could just be a matter of the surfers not being able to signup for the sites. I see it in happening in some other niches that tend to be European or Asian surfers.
I also read an article a long time ago(on AllOfEm, I think) on using different color schemes for different ethnics. The one that pops to mind was that in India RED stands for virginal, therefore the red wedding dresses, etc.
Dagwolf
2005-03-14, 07:14 AM
http://www.greenguysboard.com/greenguystats/10-12-04/india.html
Greenguy's stats for Indian traffic. It seems like middle-of-the-road conversion rates. So IF the traffic is there and IF I manage to get a lot of it (and use good sales techniques), I should see some money coming back. That's how I'm thinking, anyway.
Like I said, though, it's not my favorite niche. What other niches are undersaturated?
Kinky
2005-03-14, 07:28 AM
http://www.greenguysboard.com/greenguystats/10-12-04/india.html
Greenguy's stats for Indian traffic. It seems like middle-of-the-road conversion rates. So IF the traffic is there and IF I manage to get a lot of it (and use good sales techniques), I should see some money coming back. That's how I'm thinking, anyway.
GGs stats are nice, but not everybody is gonna get conversion like that, I picked a site off of his stats and it did horrible, another one I tried (not because of his stats) on his stats list is going 0 for 1300 for me right now,plus that is probably pure link list traffic which converts a helluva lot better than free sites and galleries.... it is hard to say because different niches work for different people, give it a try and see what happens... if it goes good keep doing it and if it doesn't look for something else to spend time on |thumb
Useless
2005-03-14, 07:47 AM
If I see one more gallery of that slut Anjali I may snap, crackle, and pop. I've personally seen very little Indian content outside of hers and that may be one of the problems with that niche. Every siller fucker promoting them is using the same three sets of her content. In a country with the population of India, you'd think someone else would be willing to take off their sari and show their sexy brown bits.
Kinky
2005-03-14, 07:52 AM
If I see one more gallery of that slut Anjali I may snap, crackle, and pop. I've personally seen very little Indian content outside of hers and that may be one of the problems with that niche. Every siller fucker promoting them is using the same three sets of her content. In a country with the population of India, you'd think someone else would be willing to take off their sari and show their sexy brown bits.
oh yeah, LOL I forgot to mention that it is hard to find good content to promote the niche... Anajali is fucking EVERYWHERE these days
Greenguy
2005-03-14, 09:13 AM
A bit off topic, but that does remind me that I really need to get another batch of stats going :)
Head Boy
2005-03-14, 10:38 AM
I'm doing well with Anjali. The difference with her is that she moved to England 5 years ago, so she's got the Indian cultural background with English sexual morality. :)
HoneLynn
2005-03-14, 03:21 PM
:D I thought the same way you did about the indian niche, and built some sites promoting it, but couldn't find a site that converted good for me, I sent 4 or 5 sponsor sites each like 1500+ clicks off link list traffic and only got a few signups and a couple chargebacks, but it could have been my weak sales skills or the traffic just wasn't from the right places, I do know that some people make a good chunk of change off of the niche, maybe you would have better luck... it is one of the niches that not a ton of people promote yet |thumb I'm thinking of giving it another go after learning a few things from hanging around this board for awhile
Have you tried Sunny Dollars (http://hit.sunnydollars.net/ref.php?q=5147,0,0) yet? We have an Indian niche site and it is one of our top 10 sites |thumb
ronnie
2005-03-14, 09:21 PM
Cant see how the niche is'nt being worked, as others have mentioned, I've seen plenty of that Anjali, and ya seems like the same content over and over almost.
ronnie
Kinky
2005-03-14, 10:36 PM
Have you tried Sunny Dollars (http://hit.sunnydollars.net/ref.php?q=5147,0,0) yet? We have an Indian niche site and it is one of our top 10 sites |thumb
yes I did try and it did 1:7519 (1:13660 raw hits) for me |thumb
yes I did try and it did 1:7519 (1:13660 raw hits) for me |thumb
hahaha sunnydollars sucks. |pink
dareutwo
2005-03-15, 12:50 AM
Like I said, though, it's not my favorite niche. What other niches are undersaturated?
If it's not your favorite, why promote it at all? Well I sort of like these Indian chicks. It seems like they may do alright in bed...
Sell what you like. If it's oversaturated, just be better.
Greenguy
2005-03-15, 10:38 AM
hahaha sunnydollars sucks. |pinkI have to disagree - Hot India Babes 1947 3465 6 1:325 $150.00
8 cents/click unique or 4 cents/click raw - very respectable for me.
Alphawolf
2005-03-15, 01:18 PM
Indian is my 2nd top selling after lesbian. It doesn't convert well, but it sells well for me off LL traffic.
HoneLynn
2005-03-15, 08:30 PM
I have to disagree - Hot India Babes 1947 3465 6 1:325 $150.00
8 cents/click unique or 4 cents/click raw - very respectable for me.
|thumb
Kinky
2005-03-16, 01:12 AM
I have to disagree - Hot India Babes 1947 3465 6 1:325 $150.00
8 cents/click unique or 4 cents/click raw - very respectable for me.
yes a few of their sites do around 1:400 for me, I just couldn't sell the indian site to save my life ;) or any other indian site I tried either
Dagwolf
2005-03-16, 01:22 AM
Indian is my 2nd top selling after lesbian. It doesn't convert well, but it sells well for me off LL traffic.
That's what I'm seeing. Average conversion, lots of traffic.
th3g4me
2005-03-16, 01:58 AM
I had a few indian sites... They make up about 1/4 of my sponsor hits to pimproll and have not made me any $$$. :(
Alphawolf
2005-03-16, 02:10 AM
I had a few indian sites... They make up about 1/4 of my sponsor hits to pimproll and have not made me any $$$. :(
How many uniques have you sent in total to the Indian site?
I've sent 18,043 uniques to their Inian site and it just converts 1:820, but it's fairly consistent.
I do have 4 or 5 free sites for it though.
th3g4me
2005-03-16, 02:24 AM
With pimproll I have sent 29306 hits and had 22 sales.
5532 were to indian dream girl with no $$.
I was off a little on the 1/4 thing hehe I had more clicks than I thought. The Indian sites I make seem to get way more traffic than any other niche though. The smaller link lists that have Indian cat's send about double the normal traffic for indian it seems.
RawAlex
2005-03-16, 03:02 AM
Look for link sites and TGPs that specifically have a section for Indian porn. Try to get content / images / programs that are at least a little away from the majority of the other sites there (certain sites have been WAY over submitted), and try to keep a unique angle.
Be careful of sites that put indian and asian together, they are really not the same markets at all.
Alex
ecchi
2005-03-16, 04:08 AM
I think the reason for the difference in results goes back to the old rule "Promote what turns you on". If you do not find Indian women sexually attractive, you are not going to be producing galleries or free sites that work. But if you are, you will.
Kinky
2005-03-16, 06:04 AM
I think the reason for the difference in results goes back to the old rule "Promote what turns you on". If you do not find Indian women sexually attractive, you are not going to be producing galleries or free sites that work. But if you are, you will.
I would have to disagree with that "rule"... if I send 13,000 clicks (which is 99% from link lists) to a sponsor and get one signup then it isn't because indian girls don't turn me on...
ecchi
2005-03-16, 06:33 AM
Yes it is. If you don't "understand" the niche than there is a good chance you are accidentally misrepresenting the site and what your advert is inferring the surfer will get is not what the free tour is inferring they get, so it does not convert.
Kinky
2005-03-16, 06:58 AM
Yes it is. If you don't "understand" the niche than there is a good chance you are accidentally misrepresenting the site and what your advert is inferring the surfer will get is not what the free tour is inferring they get, so it does not convert.
no offense but not promoting a niche because it doesn't "turn you on" is ridiculous IMO.... otherwise their would be a lot less people promoting gay niches and tons of fetish niches and what not... I sent tons of clicks using the sponsors banners and some add text, I didn't misrepresent anything, even changed out ads/banners/text and trial prices.... it was not because they don't turn me on... they actually do |thumb
ecchi
2005-03-16, 07:43 AM
RE: "not promoting a niche because it doesn't "turn you on" is ridiculous IMO" That is not what I mean. I am saying you will earn less money promoting a niche that is not your thing, but that is no reason not to promote it (unless it takes time away from things that earn you more money). For example, with the current state of the $ I make less money selling my non-adult services to Americans than I do selling them to Europeans, but I still sell to America.
emmanuelle
2005-03-16, 04:02 PM
We will soon be opening a single Indian girl site. Many of you met Saffron at Internext in Florida, where she was a huge hit.
If any of you have suggestions, we'd love to hear them!
Dagwolf
2005-03-17, 03:03 AM
There's a reason to promote the niches you like. The idea is that if it turns you on, you know what appeals to you about the niche... and the things that appeal to you are the selling points.
On the other hand, people who DON'T understand a particular niche are going to offend surfers and chase them off. BBW is a prime example. When the BBW niche was taking off, tons of photographers and promoters jumped on (they thought) the gravy train. With horrid photographs of hugely obese women in humiliating poses and phrases such as "pick a fold and fuck it", they thought they'd be making big bucks. What they didn't understand was that men who love large women LOVE large women and see them first as women.
If you can't appreciate the niche's appeal, it's hard to sell it. Knowing this, it might seem strange that I'm considering promoting a niche that doesn't especially appeal to me; I'm thinking that maybe I just haven't seen the right content, or the right site.
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