Hi Wizzo |waves|

You'll rarely get in trouble for replying to a thread - there are times when we feel people reply in an off topic spammy sort of way - like this one:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...threadid=14765
They weren't asking for other AVS programs, yet the 1st 2 replies were "Try our AVS!" type posts & that's not called for.

Sig files rules are 80 characters of text OR a 120x60 image & 40 characters of text. No bold, no colors, no larger font size - so if you broke one of those rules, I'm probably the one that edited it.

That help? :)

This was my sig, I guess I didn't go to the trouble of counting the characters, but it didn't seem out of line... but more of a petty annoyance for me to fix...

The button below and the text:
Converts KICK ASS on any Traffic,
1000's of Hosted Galleries & Clips!


Again, I not trying to start shit, because there's quite a few people around here I like and have known for many years... |shake|

I'm not trying to start shit either, but I count 59 & the limit is 40 - I have let a couple of 41 & 42 ones slide, but we have rules & we like them to be followed.

I couldnt have said it any better....especially " Yet the large number of rules and regs makes it tough to feel relaxed in posting anything..."

this maybe just my opinion again but i think if boards are completely loose and free for all to be comfortable to post without hesitating or worried about how to reply to posts, etc...it would be a much more successfull board...and maybe just my opinion...i still like you guys here...

There are plenty of "free for all" type boards out there. When Jim & I started this up, we wanted to stay away from that & I think we're doing a bang-up job of it :)

Out 2 main rules are don't spam & no excessive sig ads - these 2 rules keep away most of the "posting for the sake of posting" people that only want their sig file shown AND it keeps away the people that only want to better themselves or their program by spamming.

There are a few that "don't get it" and thats fine - I'm the 1st to admit that GFY has it's place & it's wonderful at what it does. But that's not what we want over here. Juast like with traffic, quantity does not mean quality.

I'll take 200 quality posters over 2000 big sig file spammer talking about how often their dog eats every day :D

Ok where is that bus? I am going to toss myself under it and post in a topic i have no real vested interest in except as a devoted board reader.
Like a lot of folks here I don't post much but I read all.
I can read all because spam goes where spam belongs and threads are sorted and rules adhered to. I dont have to load a 20k sig from each poster to read an interesting thread.
Maybe fewer rules would make it more comfortable for some but much less more comfortable for many :)
If GG&J start bending rules for a "few" at what point does it end? Will we have to load those huge sigs and sort through the spam to get to what interests us?
Ok ok now... where did I put that bus?

Thanks Cheerful
And, I will admit, if we let this just be a free for all, we would get a lot more posts. But, the new posts would be useless. We would get posts like my favorites, "How often do you shit?', "I just took a shit" and the best of all time..."Would you hit it?" We really don't want those. Thus, the main reason we don't post pictures.

This business runs at breakneck speed. And, I envy people that have time to post and read such nonsense.

Cheerful1 - nice post :)

Oh - Useless Warrior made this for us:

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Bus? What bus? |bus|

Ok, one last little diddy from the opinion gallery. The rules that Wizzo and Raffi(sorry to name names fellas) find troublesome are exactly why this board produces high quality banner views. Who posts here the most? The owners of the big traffic sites and their humble devotees. With the exception of the Chit Chat section, everything here is all about conducting business and making more money. So when someone decides to become a member here at GreenGuy & Jim's Porn Warehouse, they do so with business of adult webmastering on their mind. You'd have to be a fool to not see that 100 page views at GG&J is more valuable than 1,000 at GFY. Hell, I'm a fool and I get it.

Since I'm already beating this horse allow me to explain it yet another way. GG&J is to GFY as a Clean TGP with no trading script is to a 500,000 per day cicrcle jerk TGP. With very few exceptions, clean TGPs don't get anywhere near the traffic of circle jerks. But any gallery submitter will tell you that he/she will make much more money from a gallery at a clean TGP with 30,000 per day than a gallery at a circle jerk with loads more traffic. Why? Because the traffic is so much better. The surfers at a clean tgp are there for the right reason and return because they know that they get what they want without all of the bull shit. That's GG&J baby! Yeah![insert Austin Powers accent] It's all high quality true webmaster traffic. People come for the right reasons, not to impress the ravenous hordes with their lack of intellect and well endowed sig file.

This horse is dead and bludgeoned , yet here I go again. :D Two of my favorite sponsors use primarily vid caps for their content. I'd love to be able to use their content to promote them, but I can't due to the rules at the bigger link lists. Now, did the link list owners sit down one day and say, 'hey - lets fuck these guys over and not let them submit sites with vid caps as content.' Yes, that is exactly what they did. Oh, no... wait. That's not it at all. They got tired of seeing crap content and realized that the surfers must be getting tired of it too. What happens when surfers don't like what they see? They go elsewhere, and we all know that that is not good. So, yet another example of how rules are established to keep traffic quality high. Higher traffic quality translates directly into a greater ROI for the advertiser.

If sponsors want to promote their programs, they should be looking at places like this, where the pages are clean, fast loading, and most importantly, not competing with that big ass banner up top that I see every time I load a new thread.

Shit! GG posted the bus while I took a day to edit my post. Damn it!:d

Dont forget posts like...

"Can you blow your load even if your dog walks in the room?"
or

"POST PICTURES OF YOUR CELLPHONES"


Now thats some serious business not bullshit threads dont you think?

Or how about
My dog generally eats once a day
What kind of deodorant do you use
Or my brand new personal favorite...
Is the new member Greenguy the real guy?

To each their very own. I cannot comprehend juicylinks and his 50k posts on GFY. All he has done is make money for lensman, by pumping up the activity on the board, which in theory supports higher ad rates.

If anything, sponsors should be pissed off by the numbers... it isn't exactly a business environment.

Alex

Juicy is a marketing genius and a damn good looking guy...ask him.

Izzy can explain to you how post count is crucial and very important.

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Oh yeah - BRAVO to Useless Warrior |bow|

:D

That's GFY and many of the other boards. Like it has been said before, this board is more of a gathering place for people to get helpful responses, discuss issues business or non-business related and still get people to recognize you. Talking to people and getting to know them is one sure way to get them to promote your program, which I think alot of people don't realize.

There are rules, and just like with any link list or anything else you follow the rules of the people who run the site. This board is different in that you dont have to go through 500 threads about "BREAKING NEWS" or drama threads to get into some good conversations. Hell I have been in some political debates on this board that were actually good and educational, unlike GFY where you get ignorant responses. It's structured and organized and is definitely the best place to hang out.

Andy

The quality and experience level of the webmasters who post here make this board unique. Add that to the very affordable advertising rates and i think you can easily understand why they keep a tight leash on the board.

I doubt they will lose any traffic, as a potential advertiser you should be more concerned with getting your banners up here then anything else.


Buy a spot...be l33t

Looking forward to meeting you in Vegas Raffi

This is why this is my favorite webmaster board :) Its run as a webmaster board not a surfer board like GFY where you have to weed through 200 threads to get a webmaster related thread

Quality over quantity any day :)

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Useless, You rule!

I wonder if people who post topics like:
"This is why this board can lose traffic"
realize that first thing that happens is GG and or Jim will respond usually politely.
Then, a number of board readers will jump in defending the same policies. Why? Are they all suckups?
Maybe, or maybe we are just plain comfortable and happy with getting the industry news and opinions in fifteen minutes instead of 2 hours :)
If you have 2 hours to waste, feed the dog and then time how long it takes for him to shit.
In case I did not mention this also is one of the two places I come when I am looking for sponsors, content or scripts since I know they are serious enough about their business to pay money to be seen. In my mind that makes them more likely to be serious enough to be professional in their products and or services. Sometimes you get what you pay for.

In my humble message board experiences over the last several years... there are very few people who outwardly object to a "tightly" moderated message board. It's a win-win for us all.

It's good for the sponsors who PAY for the promotion - and don't have that promo space dilluted by drive-by spam and board whores posting the same crap 24/7.

It's good for the board owner cuz being consistent - firm BUT fair! - is the only way to go. It keeps things under control and makes the board community a quality experience for everyone.

It's good for the webmaster/poster because knowing what to expect - and actually GETTING it is a rare thing these days. You know that if you come to GG&J you won't get bullshit. Pure and simple. And if you WANT to bullshit with your friends - hell, they've got a spot for that too. And if you WANT to read drive-by spam and board whore verbage - well they've done that too.

I gotta say hats off to GG&J and their mods for keeping this such a nice, clean place to come to. Nothing is perfect, but for us old school folks who come to expect certain qualities in a message board - you guys have really come through!

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