What do you mean fast? 1 month, 6 months or a year? You can start now and make $6k a month but you did not mention an acutal time frame. I don't know what fast to you means.

You will need to purchase a good bit of content. You will beeds to work hard and you will need to refine your graphic skills.

Selling AVS memberships can still be very profitable but you can't depend on them for the traffic any more but generating your own traffic can be profitable when selling an AVS.

6000 $ is about 13 to 14 sales per day, if one sale is for 15 $. That doesn´t sound very much, but it is.

If your traffic converts 1 to 250 - and I´m afraid most of the traffic doesn´t - you´ll need 3500 visitors per day on your sponsor´s sites. Those visitors are not easy to get.

So the only way is to invest a lot of money. But where to invest it. If I would know where, I would do it, probably... |pimpin

If you want to make $6000/month easy... Start a paysite.

Only downside, a paysite requires previous comprehensive knowledge of the business and a good amount of startup funds.

How many paysites are making 6K/month after expenses? Not many.

|cry|

:D

I can't wait until I earn 6K a month. Some people said it's not that hard to do - really? For someone new coming in without any capital? I've been at this around 18 months now, no capital, started part time, the usual story, and I reckon (read 'hope' ) I'll hit that target in another 12 months time.

I wonder how much US$ 6000 will be worth in pounds sterling in 12 months time? Probably less than three grand I would bet :(

LOL! 6K a month! damn! I would suck midget tranny cock with a but plug up my ass all day for that kind of cash - LOL!

Like an idiot, I started my little pay site and 2 tgp's without knowing crap about this business. I'm really a photographer playing the role of webmaster as I do have some graphics/design skills. Since I know a bunch of models personally, I was able to get some content for free. So far I get about 2 or 3 sign ups per week - lol! So I guess this is just still an expensive hobby.

Bill

I am surprised you guys dont think that much could be made submitting gallerys

For a newbie, the only place left that can send good traffic and doesn't charge anything nor require a partner account is the Hun. I don't think it's possible for a newbie to get more than 50K hits daily to their galleries now without paying. So there's no way they can start off making 6K/month submitting galleries.

Convince me that it can be made.

I won´t say it can´t, but it´s a matter of the tgp that you submit to. There are not many of them where a newbie can submit to and gets quality traffic in exchange.

Build and submit 5 tgp galleries a day (ie:richards takes 5 doesnt he still?) build at least 1 free site a day and submit. If LL will take more, do the maximum. Have tgp and link list sites of your own to link back to, where you also list the submitted ones for a fair trade.

Use custom banners and tours as much as possible. Have paysite reviews on your link pages, tons of text and personal recommendations etc.

Just get busy building like crazy and dont slack off and you can do well off the bat if your marketing is good.

I'm sure one could make quite a decent amount submitting and getting their gallery accepted everyday at Tommy's.

;)

And what if your marketing sucks?

Useless Warrior well then .....

I am sure in the used car lots around the world there are salesmen that make bank and there are salesmen that worry about putting food on the table

deleuze, so what..... apply for some partner accounts
I think partner accounts are great for the submitters,
it gives you a real chance of getting listed

frankthetank, I have a friend that does a lot of tgp submiting and 2 months ago he told me that he made 100k that month
I shit you not


Thank you Joe :-)

For someone new with no contacts partner accounts are virtually impossible to get. That was my point - the only way a newbie has a chance to make significant money submitting galleries is by paying for the traffic and that isn't exactly a wise thing for someone inexperienced to do.

No, indeed not, not with tgp´s. Of course you can develop tgping - as you can develop every business. But the question was can you do it within short time.

So first you have to develop partner accounts which send decent traffic, then you have to handle your traffic amd I think that will take some time - but maybe I´m wrong.

By the way: 100000 $ per month is a good amount of signups. Very nice work of that guy, congratulations.

How to translate "Shit you not"? Does it mean "I don´t think that you made such amount of money"?

You need the whole phrase - "I shit you not" - it means "I am not making this up" or "I am telling the truth". We'll have to wait for Stuvelte to read this and translate into Dutch for you, I'm sure you must have an equivalent expression |thumb

What Tommy says is right. What deleuze says is right.

The big question here for this guy is let's see some work.
Show us a free site
Show us a gallery

If someone had some skills with building a decent gallery and a few hundred dollars plus some references (very important) then they could make and submit 2-3 galleries a day and yank in some good cash.

Starting a paysite will NOT make you $6K a month. Maybe in a year if you are lucky. The only way to make that is if you open the next MilfHunter.com or your paysite is in with an affiliate program that has 1000's of webmasters in it ready to promote it with hosted galleries, ect. And even then you need to have skills to submit your own free sites and galleries. (and it'll cost ya $6K to start it)

[quote=deleuze]For someone new with no contacts partner accounts are virtually impossible to get. QUOTE]

I would have to agree with this.

Why is it so hard for the newbies to make good money, even if your sites are comparable to the ones listed?

Because of all the scamming fucks that hide behind there computer screens in the comfort of there own home thinking it is ok to steal something from you cause you can't see them. |angry|

Yes, references.. where to submit to? that´s the most important question, I think.

Trying to suppress the competition, eh? ;)

I think Pstar changed his/her mind about selling porn.

ronnie

I have said this before...
you guys need to be emailing the tgp owners
nobody is gonna list a stranger that they dont know

whats fucking you up is the cheaters
you need to set yourself apart from them (this is critical)

from my experence the cheaters try to give as little infomation as possable
and make their gallerys so its hard to id that gallery from that submiter

some of the applications I get for partner accounts from pro submiters are unbelivable
its like they are appying for a job

a lot of tgps are gonna act like they have thousands of submits
(which is true)
but they come from strangers WHAT THEY DONT HAVE is a large number of trusted submitters

when you are a trusted submiter at a few big tgps then its easy to roll that in to hundres of tgps

when you work on your submits in the old days you would be just submiting

Today it means creating new relationships

if your not doing this then your not gonna make money...

What Tommy said.

I get people I decline submits for because of blocked whois and I tell them this and they tell me they want to keep their identity a secret because of their daytime job or whatever. It's about trust. Tell me all you can about yourself.

And when I apply for partner accounts I tell them my real name, tell them check whatever they want and will show them server stats if they need to see them to see who my referrers are. I am not hiding anything, they can trust me.

So how'd we get off subject? :D

Joe
Not trying to do anything to the competition. Seriously, how will someone make $6K a month if their site is not the next MilfHunter or they have 1000 webmasters ready to promote it? $6K is 16 sales a day, try that as a newbie with no affilaites or partner accounts anywhere. hehehe