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I think there is a "nice peoples syndicate" jumping in and being all warm and fuzzy to people.
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What you say about rejection notices and having help is very much true from what I see here. Most of the LL owners have gone out of their way to help people. Some have even started entire forums for that. ;) It really is a valuable resource to have. These days it is rare to even have sponsors this accessable. |
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Neither Jays or Marks sends out rejections - Unless I know you... hint, post here.
If I see your name in posts, newbie or not, I'll send an email. A couple of you in this thread got them today :) I think the pros and cons have already been covered. But time management is really key. 20 submits to the same category day after day doesn't work. If you're going to become a webmaster, become a webmaster! notice the "Master" part. Move outside your boundaries, (or the first sponsor you hooked up with that has free content). This is a business, enough said. Buy some content, get a good host, and things will improve for you dramatically!!! (Ie, same sponsor being promoted - but Without sponsor content - Who gets listed first?) Submitters have to remember that not only do we run LL's, but many also run tgps, or other stuff. Nearly all of us make our own free sites and pages and most of the time we use the sponsor content there. So by the time you submit, we already have it posted. On average I only get 3-5 emails per week on why they weren't listed, and I answer them all. Like UW said, get to know the reviewer. I'd said for the most part we're gatekeepers, but it's not like we don't have a clue. Nice post UW! I am accessible, just ask :) (ok, ask nicely) |
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Great post UW, and another great thread. It's encouraging to see professionalism shining through.
Looking forward to starting my freesite submittals very soon and seeing if I've absorbed and implemented all of the advice I've received on GG&J. |thumb |
Yup, unlike a few other threads recently...THIS thread is what makes GG&J the definitive resource site for link lists/free sites |thumb
Knowing who you're working with on the other side of the keyboard is a huge benefit to us all. Just this morning, I got a pm from one of my submitters telling me my site was down. I already knew it was down as we're upgrading the script, but found it very cool to get a message from a submitter to let me know :) Meat...yes indeed she was! |
As a newbie of 3 to 4 months and with all this info about reviewing sites and checking them for compliance with rules.
Does anyone have an idea why I was blacklisted after 2 months of being listed (I unwittingly had a counter, since removed) a rejection email in the first instance would have set me straight from day 1. |
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Now for me when I get a rejection (not many but there are a few) I have to be worried about asking why on this board. Here's my take on it. I submit a site to 20 LL, I get listed on a few with in the first day or so. Next day I get a rejection. I don't think it's wise for me to advertise that someone rejected me before I get all my mails back or at least run through my checks to see out of the 20 which ones have listed me. I do not want to give any other LL owner ideas from someone else. I mean if someone comes here and asks GG why they did not get listed an he puts up his answer. How many LL owners go back and check their site for that persons submit and how many don't take the next submit from that person or look way to hard at the page before approving? Just my toughts, 1 or 2 rejections is worth forgetting about. I email back the WM and ask what the issue is and then go an fix it. But honestly I dont think it's to smart to advertise you are not getting listed for a few sites. Now if you are constantly being rejected by everyone then you need to post and find out what you are doing wrong. |
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Using GG as an example, he lists some sites that I don't, I list some sites that he doesn't. We've got different rules and standards on some things...so although it's entirely possible (and common) for submitters to build free sites that pretty much everyone will list, there are exceptions to that too. For example, GG won't list anything with vid caps. I will list sites with HIGH QUALITY vid caps, but they've got to be good enough to be above my personal standards :) Personally, I rarely read the "why wasn't this listed" threads except for my own, and I know quite a few others do the same thing. I trust in my own judgement while reviewing, so I don't second guess myself just because someone else declines a site :) |
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I almost never look at other sites decline threads. And even if I do happen to notice that one of my submitters has been declined elsewhere...it makes no difference to me unless the submitter has gone over to the dark side. Besides, posting site rejection questions in the forums helps everyone in the long run. Smart submitters learn from the mistakes of others and get sites listed more consistently and link lists get cleaner reviews. Ahhh...there's that symbiotic thing again :D |
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Thats fine I have checked those and appealed accordingly. My question is........... If the sites are so closely reviewed, why was I able to to get listed for two months and then blacklisted when someone noticed I had a counter? It would have been easier to reject my first site and set me straight. Al51ex |
I normally only look at decline threads when I see one of my partners name. Or the name of known cheater just see them get caught...again :D
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Again, this goes back to the premise of this whole thread...it's about relationships. You asked first, and got our advice and input and we've even traded messages about your free-sites going down temporarily. You're a perfect example of creating relationships and how they are beneficial to both parties. |thumb |
Thanks useless warrior,
Thats cool, not bitching. I already acknowledged my mistake just asking those those questions as a newbie on the learning curve. The more I know the better I get and as they say the only stupid question is that which goes unasked. |
i think its very cool of reviewers to take the time to send rejection emails. i like to know when i fuck up so i dont do it again
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TO TRUE Why Netgoonie, you always know how to, erm, get down to it :) Iv had an LL last week (no names) who iv heard nothing off, and im not listed ? And i was told they were one of the "big guys" Who knows, maybe they lost their MoJo |shocking| |
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