And remember, the "law of averages" does work. I started promoting Silver Cash sites on March 5 or so and nothing until the last 10 days of the month. 6 sales, 4 of those right near the end of the month. And I was about to give up on them. |crazy|

It's gratifying to see someone giving out actual numbers. So, on behalf of everyone who's ever wanted even a ballpark figure to assess themselves with, thanks.

Webcleo: If you're not getting a good click through, don't hesitate to study mainstream marketing theory. A lot of that stuff is as applicable to selling dirty pictures as it is to promoting kitten calendars.

You should at least know about 'calls to action', the general path people's eyes follow when they look at a website, and how to use contrasting elements to draw attention where you want it.

selling pussy is selling pussy? :D

|boobies| |boobies|
Cheers,
B

I had an interesting link about it in my bookmarks, but lost it. Got any?

How long should you give a sponsor before moving on to a different one if they are not converting well?

Porn Junkie, that all depends. You really need to look at their site and your site and see if maybe your trying to push something that just isn't going to work for your traffic. Also, take a look at how you are promoting them. If it is just FHG's, then try making your own galleries and see if it does any better.

I track the hits to galleries, always have. When I see that i send 2k in hits to 1 gallery but only have 10 click throughs, I try something different with them. I either put up my galleries, or put up FHG's, Change it up a bit and see how it goes. If after that, I dont see a huge difference in click throughs, I dump them.

I have promoted naughtygirlcash.com since she opened the site. Only made 1 sale.. So I had to stop promotion. After 5k in hits to various galleries and very few click throughs, and 1 sale. I decided it wasn't going to work... So i moved on...

Allow me a suggestion.

While you work on galleries, free sites, etc, invest US$12 on a domain and start a mainstream site about a topic you know and enjoy (your city, your pets, your hobby).
Dedicate half an hour everyday to the site (it is a good way to stop looking at tits and refresh your mind). As soon as you have a few dozen pages, apply to Adsense. In one year, you should have 200 pages of content. Submit it to some major directories.

Depending on your topic and your skills, making US$ 30 per day after one year is not very difficult. It will be a supplement to your adult sites income, with the advantage of coming from another unrelated source (diversification is always good).

I like that idea - sounds like a good one to me.
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I do a lot of blogging ..they are a tool to get traffic to sites and you can get signups from them but they are just one way. Keep them going but have other ways of moving that traffic around. Also, sometimes it is good to pick one or two niches and concentrate on getting traffic to those niches in every possible way you can think of rather than trying to cover every niche you can think of with one traffic generation method.

Clarification Needed on build everday and submit
 

Hello all...after reading this thread my question is this... when you say build a free site and submit everyday, are you talking about building your own galleries with their own domain that's like a one page website or are you talking about a structure like this:

domain.com/freesite1
domain.com/freesite2

and when you submit, where are these freesites being submitted to? Is that what tgp submission software is for?

Are we talking about submitting free hosted gallery sites or all original galleries?

If we're talking about original galleries, are you guys building them with photoshop?

What's a hub?

Thank you...I'm not as active in xxxwebmaster stuff as I'd like to be and am now with a little more time on my hands and would like to pursue it more...

Thanks in advance...

Hi Easymama, I think from your post you have got your wires crossed about free sites and galleries.
A gallery is a single page that you submit to tgp's and a free site is usually a four page site submitted to links lists.
The usual structure is index/warning, main page, gallery page 1 and gallery page 2. There are many great threads on here explaining about the structure if you want to know more.
Generally auto submission software is not favoured by links lists and it is best to do this by hand.
Free hosted sites are also not widely accepted, check out the rules at places like link-o-rama as these are a great guide.
A hub is usually a page that contains all your sites that is on the domain root but can contain pay site links etc it’s up to you.
hope that helps

I love this idea as well. Everyone needs a recharge during the day. Plus if its a topic you love, it should be fun.


As the the other question, I think its important to get a free site, tgp gallery, maybe start/update a blog daily. Make sure to interlink your sites and have somewhere to send the traffic you recieved.

IE: submitting galleries and sending all to a sponsor is only short term.

Try doing a free site for a sponsor updated weekly or something. Build galleries for the sponsor but for your free site instead. Most sponsors will allow you to do this if the free site is only dedicated to them. So you get the surfer to a page you control and get a chance for a bookmarker. This provides you long term potential for a surfer and starting new projects etc.

Make sure you check with your sponsors first to make sure they are ok with the idea before doing it.

webCleo, how much traffic you have per day?

TGP submission really works! you gotta try that one up!

webcleo, can you show a free site you made and submitted to the linksites? i am just checking something here, your name is very familair to me, i know only one cleo ( yeah "the cleo") and there is an other person who submit with the name cleo in his or her nickname and that cleo is an cheater, how do i know? i review several linksites and when i see a site with the same link receips but change one in their site then thats a cheater, i dont say your the one, but i like to see one of your free sites, because i dont have seen an other person using the name cleo in his or her nickname:D

always nice to find out you are answering on an old thread, i think thats the cleo i am talking about:D oke which moron bumped this thread? we need to talk......bad bad you:D

Hey Andy, can you provide me some links to samples so I can see what you're talking about. I appreciate it.

yeah and me too:D

to the op promote good niched sites that convert!

oke i know i am chinese, but now its the first time i see chinese and dont understand it either.............".to the op" yep i need to learn chinese good way:D oke o know now i should understand the fact" that not all understand my posting" but heay.....i am trying and learning.......:D

good thought!

Reading through the thread, I noticed Greenie said build a site a day, and some others said build a free site a day. I've been concentrating on free sites since it seems to be the recommended way to get started, but man some of those spponsors have some damn fine, easy ways to build a nice avs site.

So the question would be: is it wise to move away from free sites and do avs....a combination perhaps?

Do both.

It's been a long time since I did anything with AVS, but from what I remember, an AVS site was just a big Free Site (4 galleries of 10 pics instead of 2)

So build an AVS site, save copies & clean it up & use that as a Free Site (and then take the galleries & submit them to TGP's)

AVS could be practice and a learning experience for a paysite.

Earlier in the thread you said build a site a day. Carefull here, think about managing all those sites if the traffic trades or even link trades.

Hub is a good idea too, except if ya piss someone off and they hack all of your sites |banghead|and leave a trojan. Or someone wants to play hardball for SERP on a cash keyword. Speaking from experience on this.

My point is you can spread yourself to thin (leads to mental and health problems) and you need to manage risk too (or become a security expert). No substitute of enough $ to hire staff.

webCleo, i'm not an expert when it comes to this but most of my friends promoting sponsors - they make money from blogs.
some of them have very few banners on their blogs yet they are making more than 300 euros from that.