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LowryBigwood 2007-09-06 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainJSparrow (Post 363842)
Viper, we've had 4 different sites spike way up, once each, since June. Each time it stays up for a few days then goes back to normal. Kinda weird, I'm wondering if it's an algo change why it wouldn't happen to more sites, or even those 4 sites, all at the same time.

Starting this thread, I was wondering if anyone else's sites spiked way up Tuesday and Wednesday this week and then went back to normal. Had it happened to alot of folks at the same time, it would be more indicative of an algo change or filter adjustment.
As I stated earlier in this thread I didn't notice anything like this recently. But, In June and July(maybe earlier August too) I did experience these "spikes" which lasted a few days then vanished. My traffic was up about 4 times during the traffic spike what it is right now.

xxxjay 2007-09-07 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Halfdeck (Post 364361)
Jay, you got a pretty big site. Do you see Google sending traffic to any of your pages that used to be labeled supplemental?
Last I checked Google stopped using supplementals:
http://searchengineland.com/070731-215828.php

Or at least stopped saying they did...lol.

xxxjay 2007-09-07 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainJSparrow (Post 363842)
Viper, we've had 4 different sites spike way up, once each, since June. Each time it stays up for a few days then goes back to normal. Kinda weird, I'm wondering if it's an algo change why it wouldn't happen to more sites, or even those 4 sites, all at the same time.

Starting this thread, I was wondering if anyone else's sites spiked way up Tuesday and Wednesday this week and then went back to normal. Had it happened to alot of folks at the same time, it would be more indicative of an algo change or filter adjustment.
Hopefully, what we are seeing is Google re-shuffling the deck. I remember before they changed indexes the last time I would see my pages bounce on and off the top of the SERPS almost hourly, then they would go back to "normal", they they would go back to "shit", then "shit" became "normal", and that's what we've been stuck with the last couple months.

If we are lucky, (and from what I've been noticing from watching SE patterns for the last 10 years) we are seeing google rolling on and off what will be the new index. Maybe that was just a taste of it.

All that being said, I would not expect Google to reward sites just doing reciprocal linking, so don't get lazy...think outside the box...I am trying some new ideas, some radical, some less radical to try and stay on the crest of the wave.

xxxjay 2007-09-07 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 363749)
Im waiting out for the other shoe to drop - Ive basically been out of Google on one LL for exactly one year - and came back 2 days ago - I have two theories on what is happening but I will only talk about one right now
DMOZ has reorganized their index and setup on their servers over the last few months - for as long as I can remember they have been set up with really bad mirrors and canonical problems - and have fixed that recently so that everything comes from the www.dmoz.org site now - and since we know that google has always given a special meaning to dmoz links and they also automatically give you a link from google as well - and given that google has been reindexing dmoz into their directory like a buzzing bee for the last week or so - maybe this is partly a fallout of that

The other theory starts with they have removed some filters from last years big daddy update - but I cant prove that one yet - we'll have to wait and see what happens at the end of the summer when they normally put all filters back on

A third and less appealing theory has to do with individual sites - and not worth discussing as I dont have any proof - yet
Interesting theory on DMOZ. Do you really think DMOZ is still relavant? I don't even submit to it anymore and I saw some of the biggest upward moves in the SERP of some of my smaller domains that were not listed.

Hit me on ICQ about that 3rd theory. I have a few ideas myself.

Halfdeck 2007-09-07 08:07 AM
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Last I checked Google stopped using supplementals
No Jay, Google just stopped showing the supplemental label. Instead of displaying the label, Google hinted that by the end of the summer they'll start sending more traffic to pages that used to be labeled supplemental.

Fonz 2007-09-07 08:12 AM
ok, my traffic went back to "normal" :(

LowryBigwood 2007-09-07 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Halfdeck (Post 364504)
No Jay, Google just stopped showing the supplemental label. Instead of displaying the label, Google hinted that by the end of the summer they'll start sending more traffic to pages that used to be labeled supplemental.
I wish they would... They totally wiped out my mainstream adsense income with that supplemental shit. :D

xxxjay 2007-09-08 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Halfdeck (Post 364504)
No Jay, Google just stopped showing the supplemental label. Instead of displaying the label, Google hinted that by the end of the summer they'll start sending more traffic to pages that used to be labeled supplemental.
LOL...wasn't that pretty much what I just said?

Halfdeck 2007-09-08 09:37 AM
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LOL...wasn't that pretty much what I just said?
No, you said "Google stopped using supplementals" which isn't true. The only thing Google stopped using is the supplemental label. Google still puts pages in the supplemental index. Google is just hiding the fact to keep webmasters from obsessing over supplemental results.

For example, your site, Jay's XXX Links, has ~1,070 pages in the main index. The rest of your site (~12,000 pages) is supplemental.

I'm just wondering if you see an increase in traffic from those 12,000+ pages.

mb 2007-09-08 12:03 PM
Google is definately up to something. Seeing some wild swings in serps and hoes.com is typically steady. Hopefully it's a sign of better things to come. Too many TGPs in the top 10 these days!

marc

Pusher 2007-09-10 08:41 AM
My google traffic went up big time for several choice search terms since about 8/30, but as of this morning, it is back to 'normal'. I've learned over the years not to count on Google for traffic...

AdultMasta 2007-09-11 05:00 PM
Good way to see your pages that are NOT in supplemental is to use site:www.domain.com/*

CaptainJSparrow 2007-09-11 05:26 PM
Good tip AdultMasta...I didn't know that one.

CaptainJSparrow 2007-09-11 05:29 PM
An interesting occurrence for the SEO types to look at: It is almost cyclical, Debauchery keeps popping in and out for the term "Latina Hardcore." I am going to start keeping track of it, but so far, it seems about every 4 days or so my site is #1 for that term, then it goes completely away where it's not even in the top 1000, then about 4 days later I'm #1 again. This has been going on for a few months now.

Does anyone have any thoughts as to why this is happening?

Btw, as I type this I've been #1 for that term for about 36 hours now.

Halfdeck 2007-09-11 06:12 PM
Captain, I'm seeing you on #1 while logged out of my Google account. I don't see you all when I log in. That has nada to do with my personalization info either, since I hardly ever use Google to surf porn. Interesting stuff.

EDIT: Actually, it looks like your site pops in an out almost every time I hit refresh, so it probably has nothing to do with me being logged into my G account.

According to mcdar, around half the DCs have you at #1.

CaptainJSparrow 2007-09-11 10:29 PM
Well, I'm still listed at #1, but according to my stats I did not get as much traffic from that term today as I did yesterday. Hence, I'm probably on my "out the door" for that term again.

Pertunda 2007-09-15 11:58 AM
captainsparrow,

The exact same thing happened to two of my sites. I had huge spikes in traffic from google on tuesday and wednesday and then the traffic dropped back to normal thursday and friday.

This actually is a normal occurence for the last 2 years for me when google does a big update. for the last two years (about 3 times each year) this happens when google has some big updates to its SERPs.

CaptainJSparrow 2007-09-16 11:31 PM
Just an update, at some point yesterday I lost that #1 position for Latina Hardcore...so right at 4 days from my previous post regarding this.

Maj. Stress 2007-09-17 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainJSparrow (Post 365842)
Just an update, at some point yesterday I lost that #1 position for Latina Hardcore...so right at 4 days from my previous post regarding this.
I show you #1 today :)

CaptainJSparrow 2007-09-17 04:58 PM
Awesome, I just checked and see that as well. Yesterday I got no traffic for that term. It'll be interesting to see if I stick in that position this time, bounce in and out, or stay for 4 or 5 days then go away again. Normally, when my site "bounces" out of that spot into oblivion, it stays that way for a handful of days or so.


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