Drama twice in two weeks....uh oh |couch|

Useless... ROTFLMAO .... Dareutwo... Cleo... GG...
 

Useless .. :)

Daretwo...

You should also try reading my original post and replies before I was insulted.. Once more.. I posted as a joke...

Cleo..

I can now only bow to your superiority.. I presume that Cleo is short for Queen Cleopatra...

I do have to ask... What happened to your first two pay sites.. I presume that you sold them for a profit :)

TO EVERYONE WHO IS TOO LAZY TO READ ALL MY POSTS... I DO NOT HAVE PROBLEMS HAVING ANY OF MY GALLERIES ACCEPTED APART FROM THAT ONE .... OK... CAN YOU ALL READ AND UNDERSTAND MY ENGLISH GRAMMAR !!!!

This thread proves that Yanks do not understand English humour and irony...

Added as I just read GG's post...

I didn't suggest hacking... Cleo did. I asked if it was possible for TGP/Links site owners to sign up as affiliates to pay sites and then when they move listings to an archive if they could change the link on their own sites to include their affiliate id, if the link was submitted by a pay site owner and there is no other affilaite id... Quite simple but too complicated for the Yanks to undertsand.. Instead I received insults... LOL.

At least I've livened things up :)

There are some English guys posting in this thread as well. :)

I know you never suggested hacking, but that's the only way I can think of to add my code to pages on your server.

Tell me, how would one edit this URL so that their code was on the pages on your server?

http://www.saharagetsdirty.com/TGP/12/10012.htm

Once the surfer has loaded your page, then the LL has lost control of future clicks. I can only think of two ways to change the code. 1. change it on your server. 2. install a trojan on the surfers computer. Both of those are illegal.

There are two possibilities with your co-operation. 1. You submit the page with the archive links in the first place. 2. You provide the LL owner with a FPA to fly before the tour, and that is hosted on the LL server and called by the submitted page.

OK Head Boy it's your turn...
 

You don't know me at all from your comments about law and who owns what...

In 6 years in this biz I have never re-directed surfers.. There has not been one pop up or under on any of my sites. I have always built clean honest sites... Any galleries I make are in the same mold... I've just started looking at all the TGP's and links sites and if I don't like their rules... I won't submit and try to get away with what I want. I will only submit to those who's rules I'm happy with.

I can say that there are one or two that I will go out of my way for as we have known each other or of each other for years and so mutual respect is given/shown by both of us. There is one person who posts on GG and he has just done me a favour, so I'm actually building galleries specifically to meet his rules... It's driving me nuts but I'm doing it.. You know who you are if you read this ... Give me couple of days to build a few... Thanks :)

Not short for anything, just a dumb nickname that stuck.

First paysite was a general hardcore site. I found it more profitable to turn the domain into a bunch of AVS niche sites. Then AVS got murdered by Visa.

Second paysite is FoxyAngel and it does very well. My neighbor is FoxyAngel and she provides the content. I market it keeping the traffic flowing to it and keep the machinery oiled.

GG... This is what I ws asking about :)
 

This is the link on the TGP when on the list:

http://affiliates.saharagetsdirty.co.../gallery25.htm

When the listing is moved to the archive, if the TGP owner was an affiliate, could they change the link to this:

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../gallery25.htm

If this could be done, then the webmaster of the pay site would be earning 100% of a sale while listed and because the TGP owner keeps it but in an archive.. They can then earn 50% from any sales :)

I know it's not you that's doing it, but in my opinion you can't have a clean site if you've got a sex tracker link on it. I won't trade or link to a site that's got it, because I believe it will install ALT trojans and lose all webmasters part of their income.

I haven't yet seen a post anywhere that proves my opinion to be incorrect. If there is one, I'd be grateful for a link.

JoeA
 

ignorance + attitude problem + big ego = dim future in this biz

Hint 1: This business is all about networking, not proving you are always right. It's ok admit mistakes and ask for help. You can't make it in this biz alone, every bridge you burn and every person you piss off because you refuse to accept your ignorance will hurt your chances of success (and believe me, not many people are fond of you at the moment).

Hint 2: Try taking your head out of your ass and you might learn something on this board. There are many good people here that are always willing to help if you don't crap all over their opinions.

And with that said........ |fart|

SpeedyG
 

For every enemy I make here.. I make a friend somewhere... Big Deal..

I am not exactly a newbie, having run pay and avs sites since Feb 99. So far I haven't been given any advise in this thread, just insulted..

Just so you can find out a little more about me, I suggest you read the article on this page,... You have to scroll down below the ad's:
http://www.ynot.com/modules.php?op=m...rder=0&thold=0

As for learning and networking... Read my last post where I thanked someone here for actually helping me and in private not insulting me ... :)

BEFORE ANYONE ELSE FLAMES ME... PLEASE READ THE START OF THIS THREAD AS I'M GETTING BORED WITH YOU RETARDS WHO JUST JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON WITHOUT READING EVERYTHING..

Now am I up my own arse... You're damn right... I do have the right to be, when I receive replies as I have so far, to what was a joke, and I've just repeated that for the umteenth time...

Cleo please pass the |potleaf|

Hey JoeA.

About your comment of changing the link to point to a hosted gallery, if I was going to do that why wouldnt I just do that to begin with. Forget taking the time to review galleries, listing them and sending someone else traffic.

On another note, the gallery you mentioned with your intitial joke post I would have declined for multiple reasons, all of which I mentioned. I dont see why you found it funny that it was declined for not enough nudity, if the site requires some nudity (Hence, "Adult Site") make sure there is nudity. Its a simple fact of following the rules specified by the site in which you are applying to receive traffic from.

I will also go as far to guess that it was declined from Richards Realm, I may have even been the one that reviewed it.

And nothing in this post was an insult, but just because your gallery was accepted at 11 other places or whatever you have to keep in mind that each site has their own rules.

I have to admit I never thought of doing that - I know also have to assume that some scamming webmasters has probably thought about doing this in the past, but the work involved would be too much for me to even care about looking into.

You could just turn off the redirect thing & do them all with hard links thru php &/or includes.

GG...
 

Thanks.. I'm glad at least one person can now see what I was trying to say ..

When it comes to scripts.. I know nothing which is why I was wondering if it could be done.. There could be a lot of money being lost at the moment and a lot to be made.. :)

I think as you intimate.. It may have to be a manual job and who would have the time... But maybe some clever scripts guru could come up with one for the job..

hey JoeA I have a question for ya, a little of topic but since you were already here, I was just curious if you have a "clean" tour that CCBill affiliates can send traffic to that doesn't have all of the outgoing links to other sites and billing options?

You can leave on the redirect even when you do it in php like I do for Angel. That way the affiliates can link to any page of the tour, even the join page. The affiliates just have to make sure that when doing this the traffic ends up on the correct join page.

Kinky... Cleo and Brav
 

Kinky...

a) If a surfer clicks on the scipt links at the bottom of the first page of the tour, I would think they weren't interested in going further. Those are the only outward links and they are to other sites of mine which have high se positions. Therefore linking to them helps SGD :) They all have a Google pr of 4 except UK Ethnic Models which is actually Sahara's portfolio site if you bothered to look.

b) I have seen more than enough much larger pay sites than mine that have second processors listed on the CCBill pages, so I'm not unique. NoChex if you bothered to follow that link is for UK surfers only, who just have our UK debit cards.

Sales through Nochex have been about one a month and Clear Card totals 2 or 3.

CCBill are the best known name and so 99.9999% of sales come in from them.

Cleo....

As you saw above I have admitted to knowing nothing about scripts, so does your reply to GG mean my idea is viable after all the flaming I received. If it could work, as the links are on the TGP's domain/server they deserve to have a share of the sales :)

When it comes to any script, I couldn't survive without Ray of the Webmasters Guide :)

Brav..

Thanks for the private chat and as you've seen I've replied to you in the friendly thread I started... The submit that appeared to fail was on your movie TGP by the way...

For the rest of you..

As for getting help and learning... Those of you who flamed me here should read the other thread I started to see the difference in posts there... http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=18036 So different to this one..

Me make enemies... As I said I don't give a flying f**k. The people who matter helped in that other thread and I'm doing what needs to be done and not one flame...

To those of you who have decided to blacklist me from submitting to your TGP's because of my posts in this thread... Again you can all take a flying f**k.. I've lived without you for 6 years, so I don't think I'm missing anything except traffic from sufers looking for freebies :)

Finally...

Realise this... I am a cantankerous old man of nearly 57 and I don't suffer fools at all. All you had to do was read my original post and follow ups properly to see your remarks were totally uncalled for...

Please hold any more replies back for a few hrs as it's now 2.30 am here in the UK and I have galleries to build for decent sites to list.. :)

G'nite all...

I looked at your CCBill but from your post it seems that you have links to other stuff and other processors. WTF, your CCBill tour should just be a tour for the site that we are sending traffic to and there should not be any other processors on the join page.

You want to have a tour with other links on it and other processors then make one for your own traffic and make a tour just for the webmasters sending CCBill traffic.

Not really. You are basically asking list sites to change out the submitted URL to something else. If there is affiliate codes in the ads of the galleries then whoever's code is in the ad is the webmaster that would ultimately get credit for the sale no matter how they got to the gallery. I could link to the gallery using my code but then that would be overwritten by the code in the gallery's ad.

All this would only work if your were building galleries with no affiliate codes in the ads which most people don't do and even then you would not know if your ads dropped them off on the correct tour.

CCBill traffic should go to a CCBill tour with no traffic leaks and no other processors.

yeah if you did that then you would get a lot more people promoting your sites... keep your main page the way it is but make an alternate tour for ccbill affiliates and have it carry over in your hosted galleries and sites... I think all it takes is adding the URL to the end of the ccbill code to point the traffic to the right page but I may be wrong... and most of the sites that have different processors on them have cascading billing and the webmaster gets credit no matter which one is used

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What's this all about?

Somebody trying to make new friends?