For someone new with no contacts partner accounts are virtually impossible to get. That was my point - the only way a newbie has a chance to make significant money submitting galleries is by paying for the traffic and that isn't exactly a wise thing for someone inexperienced to do.

No, indeed not, not with tgp´s. Of course you can develop tgping - as you can develop every business. But the question was can you do it within short time.

So first you have to develop partner accounts which send decent traffic, then you have to handle your traffic amd I think that will take some time - but maybe I´m wrong.

By the way: 100000 $ per month is a good amount of signups. Very nice work of that guy, congratulations.

How to translate "Shit you not"? Does it mean "I don´t think that you made such amount of money"?

You need the whole phrase - "I shit you not" - it means "I am not making this up" or "I am telling the truth". We'll have to wait for Stuvelte to read this and translate into Dutch for you, I'm sure you must have an equivalent expression |thumb

What Tommy says is right. What deleuze says is right.

The big question here for this guy is let's see some work.
Show us a free site
Show us a gallery

If someone had some skills with building a decent gallery and a few hundred dollars plus some references (very important) then they could make and submit 2-3 galleries a day and yank in some good cash.

Starting a paysite will NOT make you $6K a month. Maybe in a year if you are lucky. The only way to make that is if you open the next MilfHunter.com or your paysite is in with an affiliate program that has 1000's of webmasters in it ready to promote it with hosted galleries, ect. And even then you need to have skills to submit your own free sites and galleries. (and it'll cost ya $6K to start it)

[quote=deleuze]For someone new with no contacts partner accounts are virtually impossible to get. QUOTE]

I would have to agree with this.

Why is it so hard for the newbies to make good money, even if your sites are comparable to the ones listed?

Because of all the scamming fucks that hide behind there computer screens in the comfort of there own home thinking it is ok to steal something from you cause you can't see them. |angry|

Yes, references.. where to submit to? that´s the most important question, I think.

Trying to suppress the competition, eh? ;)

I think Pstar changed his/her mind about selling porn.

ronnie

I have said this before...
you guys need to be emailing the tgp owners
nobody is gonna list a stranger that they dont know

whats fucking you up is the cheaters
you need to set yourself apart from them (this is critical)

from my experence the cheaters try to give as little infomation as possable
and make their gallerys so its hard to id that gallery from that submiter

some of the applications I get for partner accounts from pro submiters are unbelivable
its like they are appying for a job

a lot of tgps are gonna act like they have thousands of submits
(which is true)
but they come from strangers WHAT THEY DONT HAVE is a large number of trusted submitters

when you are a trusted submiter at a few big tgps then its easy to roll that in to hundres of tgps

when you work on your submits in the old days you would be just submiting

Today it means creating new relationships

if your not doing this then your not gonna make money...

What Tommy said.

I get people I decline submits for because of blocked whois and I tell them this and they tell me they want to keep their identity a secret because of their daytime job or whatever. It's about trust. Tell me all you can about yourself.

And when I apply for partner accounts I tell them my real name, tell them check whatever they want and will show them server stats if they need to see them to see who my referrers are. I am not hiding anything, they can trust me.

So how'd we get off subject? :D

Joe
Not trying to do anything to the competition. Seriously, how will someone make $6K a month if their site is not the next MilfHunter or they have 1000 webmasters ready to promote it? $6K is 16 sales a day, try that as a newbie with no affilaites or partner accounts anywhere. hehehe

make 6k a month ? hang with someone that has a money sack for a avitar..

$6000 per month, Part 2
 

Thanks everyone for the comments, over 1000 people viewing the tread.

Lots of good comments/advise/warnings.

First off it seems that working in porn has got a lot harder than it used to be. I first started in internet porn back in 1997, and made decent money promoting things like the pam and tommy tape and Ultrahardcore. I dropped it back then because my other businesses took off and I lost a lot of sites when Ultra closed the free host.

Anyway it seems to me that building and submitting free sites to the likes of Tommy is going to be the best way to go, and boosting this with occassional MGP posting/paid spots (seems like most of the big guys want paying these days)

And then link all the free sites into my own mgp/linklist/blog/etc to build up a network of sites for the SE to hit.

I currently have over 4K pages listed on google and 1250 on yahoo, so I should be able to build that into something more.

Got a cheque from Adultbouncer yesterday and bought 3 more domains. Anyone else promoting Adultbouncer? Don't see too many mentions of them on the boards.

Cheers

Pstar

Quick is within 3/4 months and as I'm in the UK $6,000 is only just over £3,000. |angry|

You don't have to have any affiliates to make a good chunk of change (e.g. quiet @ GFY for the perfect example).

A close business partner of mine opened his own paysite about a year ago, and is making more than double digits in sales daily with a dozen or so affiliates.

It takes knowledge, perseverance and most of all, creativity/originality.

wow, didn't know you got so much experience already - but I think from my point of few that it's still very hard to make a 6k$/month

6k / month is not that hard to make. Of course a newbie (everybody who has started after 2003 / in 2004 is a newbie in my opinion) will probably not achive that but if you have enough of experience and can work 8 hours per day constantly then you should hit that pretty fast.

If you can invest about $3000-4000 then start a tgp with hosted galleries only, buy 100k's of traffic and grow it to 500k / day.
With the right scripts, trades, content it should be doable in 1 month :)

Promoting per signup sponsors its only 6-7 sales a day. 7x$30 = $210 a day - for 30 days = more than $6k.

It doesn't sound all that impossible to me - not that I am doing it myself *LOL*
Of course if you're a newbie and you can't get listed... then thats a different story :)

Joe
I agree 100%. I was talking about a newbie doing it. With no gallery experience (we assume this guy has none) it is near impossible. Could he do it in a few months? 6 months? Probably if he read, learned and applied himself. Otherwise he'd just be another newbie with a paysite waiting for google to miracously start sending him 1000's of hits a day. hehe

I'd love to have a paysite pulling in what quiet does. :D

Remember we're talking about a newbie here. Anyone one of the boards members hear who are not making $4K-$6K a month should be building more. Build more again. And build more again and submit submit submit. Like JanTM said, it's only 6-7 sales a day ;)

Ok so you have some experience? Want to make $6K is simple. Be ready to buy some gallery accounts. Build 2 galleries every day and submit them. Build a free site EVERY day and submit it. Pick and choose your sponsors carefully. Do not promote the same one. Pick 5-6 sponsors to push so you are not submitting for the same sponsor daily. You need to buy a bit of content too but that is cheap. Weed out the bad sponsor and add a new one.

I merged the 2 threads (no need to start a new one when the old one is still going strong)

Sample Galleries
 

Got some hosting sorted out a webair, they seem to be well recommended, and the tech support is good.

Post a couple of sample galleries here

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...d.php?p=153612

Would you list them?

Starting a fake MGP sounds interesting.

Cheers

Pstar

Tommy said some very valuable things.

This thread has got me all excited. At last year's London boat show I saw a yacht I wanted but could not afford. So now you guys have sorted out Pstar's money problem, can you tell me how I can make a couple of million dollars before this year's boat show ? :D

Some great info here for sure, thanks Tommy, Ramster and others for the nice tips |shake|

6k Canadian is my goal, hopefully I can surpass that.

so it's possible to make 6k/month but not if you are a newbie |hammer

Very possible. Working really hard each day, a bit of luck, refining your sales and graphic skills, and networking should get you there, did for me anyway. :)

Work hard and smart and you can reach the $6k a month goal... if you work 8 hours a day you need to put in more hours, nothing comes easy!

All depends on how smart you are. Seriously. There are webmasters that come along and submit a free site every 2 days and build nothing else. Or someone pushes the same sponsor over and over again that is not converting well.

Be smart. Know you have to work hard. Build ALL the time. As already said being smart means learning how to refine your design and selling skills.

A newbie could be making $6K within a few months if they did things right.

you wont be making 6k a month so dont worry about it

Hello I'm new to the board and just wanted to say thanks. This is my first night here and my cam site goes live in 1 week. I truly know I am a newbe here but have learned plenty just from reading this post. I know I'm not running a tgp or anything like that but the concept is still the same. Make money on the net. But anyway just wanted to say thanks.. Jugg

Even more could be made if part of it wasn't wasted on content.

When the affiliate programs give you free content, why buy?

Because unless you know the market very well you'll end up with over used affiliate content, won't be able to get partner accounts and won't get listed by many other places.

If you treat it like a new business venture then I think a newbie can make that kind of money but not next month. 3 to 4 months may be unlikely but not impossible. it will take some serious hard work and sacrifice to reach your goals.

I would suggest that you plan on giving up your hobbies until you reach your goals. Your new hobbies will be reading boards, studing traffic sources, graphics, learning new software, asking questions and trying new things.

Before you get started get rid of all distractions so that your mind is clear. That means if you have some financial issues that are distracting you, find a way to put them on hold. That hot babe/guy you want to date, make them part of your life now or forget about her. Friends that interfere with your day, block them out for a little while. Anything that takes you away for more then a day should be forgotten.

Once you're mentally and emotionally ready to work your ass off to reach your goals, then you can do it. Until then you're wasting your time.

When you start, wake up everry morninf and review what you did and learned the day before. Then make a "To Do" list. Review that list a few times a day and when you finish work for the day.

Stay organised, stay focused and you just might be able to do it. Keep us posted.

I've been trying to resist asking this, but what's the significance of $6,000 per month? Had I asked this question, I think I would have said $5,000, but maybe I'm not ambitious enough. :)

It is a bit of an odd number isn't it? LOL Usually someone ask $5K or $10K.

I would have used $50/month. :D

Coz it's 200 blings a day ;)

UW ya da pimp brudda |pimpin

Be willing to give up your life. Think thats what you were saying...:)

ronnie

And it's accurate and correct. The more you do, the more you will want to do, and the more you will realize that that what you did yesterday was inadequate.

And that's the good news!

Very true. I spend over 100 hours a week on the computer, and occasionally speak to webmasters who consider that a slow week.