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Sid 2005-04-25 11:13 AM

1152x864 on my desktop, but check pages in 1024 (I do check in 800, too but wow that just hurts my eyes)

tickler 2005-04-26 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torn
your all blind

1400x1050

I can run 1600x1200 on my 22" when I am doing developement with multiple helper windows open. Nice to be able to move them out of the active design space.

Generally I run 1024x768 with multiple browser windows set around 800x600. Then you hit all these sites that resize to maxWidth/maxHeight and they have no ideal what their sites look like at those resoulutions!

Fonz 2005-04-26 05:07 AM

1280x1024 the first 8 hours of the day
1152 x 864 the next 7 hours of the day

alvarez 2005-04-26 06:21 AM

I vote for 800x600 :)

flyeruk 2005-04-26 07:24 AM

I do everything at 800 x 600, surf, review and build :-)

Kath 2005-04-26 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby
Interesting reading. While my initial thoughts about a much higher percantage of webmasters using higher resolutions appears to be correct there have been a couple of things mentioned that I had not considered. Browsing at less than full screen size, and other programs or utilities occupying portions of the screen.

What this all tells me is that I can design the site for optimum use at 1024x768, but it needs to still be viewable at 800x600 without having a horizontal scroll.

Yep, that's what I've found too. I view @ full screen, always have - and I have mine set to 1024x768. I didn't realize that many webmasters do NOT view @ full screen so they can layer their windows. But when we did some site re-designs awhile ago for our message board, webmaster blog and main dot-com for the magazine, we received a lot of - well, let's just call them "constructively critical" emails and notes from webmasters. I was even told that sites should be designed @ about 750 width to completely rule out "threat" of a sideways scroll - which I guess really pisses off these small-screener folks.

But now these are WEBMASTERS so I wonder if we are designing for surfers, if the resolution needs to be different. I hear a lot of complaints on my surfer sites from people saying that an 800x600 design is "too big" and that they would prefer it be designed for the 1024 majority... just not sure which way to go, and I don't like how the 100% thing messes with your design. I want it to look the way *I* want it to look, you know?

|shocking|

EmporerEJ 2005-04-26 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrYum
19 inch flat screen here...native is 1280x1024...which is where I'm at most of the time.

When building, I resize every page to make sure it looks decent at the most common sizes. Since I work in FF almost exclusively and have the developer tools installed...I can switch to 800x600...or 1024x768 at the click of a button :)

That said, pages that are specifically for webmasters, 1024x768 becomes the primary choice with 800x600 secondary.

As I told Toby in another forum I run 1600 X 1200, but I use FrontPage which also has the built in previewer that allows you to lauch whatever browser you want in whatever size to see how it appears.
It's very handy.

ecchi 2005-04-26 07:10 PM

RE : "sites should be designed @ about 750 width" This is to allow for the scroll bars and window frames. By the same token, if you are designing for 1280x1024, the screen should be no wider than about 1230 etc.

If you are designing your own website then use whatever resolution you like, it is your site after all. But if you are designing for someone else and they don't specify resolution, ALWAYS keep screen width below 750 or be ready for the work to dry up when clients with 800X600 screens start to put the word round that you are no good. It will make no difference to them that you designed a kick ass site, if their clients cannot see the entire thing on their crappy old monitors then they are going to start putting the wrong kind of word out about you.

EmporerEJ 2005-04-26 09:08 PM

You know, thinking on this topic, But not necessarily Toby's topic, it occurs to me that when I was a wee nipper on the web, Cnet had some "training" course that suggested the best way to design was for a maximum of 700 Pixels.
'course that was quite a while ago......

Back in the "old days" of the web.....Which I know Toby, who is MUCH older than me, remembers......
|bananna|

Toby 2005-04-26 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ
...Back in the "old days" of the web.....Which I know Toby, who is MUCH older than me, remembers......
|bananna|

Hey now, not that much older, but I *was* there when Al Gore invented the Internet. |loony|

MrYum 2005-04-26 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ
As I told Toby in another forum I run 1600 X 1200, but I use FrontPage which also has the built in previewer that allows you to lauch whatever browser you want in whatever size to see how it appears.
It's very handy.

Yep Emporer...when I look at how much more productive I am using FF as opposed to IE, FF wins hands down everytime :)

The developer tools extension is one of the best addons for folks in our biz. Also, has a single click to view source code in a new tab...VERY handy for site reviews |headbang|

digifan 2005-04-26 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo
Bingo :)

I agree 100%... it is always easier on the eye so the surfer can focus on the content.

EmporerEJ 2005-04-26 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby
Hey now, not that much older, but I *was* there when Al Gore invented the Internet. |loony|

I was running a lowly BBS called "Sex2CStore" when Al Gore invented the internet and the great light of the world turned on.....

:D

EmporerEJ 2005-04-26 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrYum
Yep Emporer...when I look at how much more productive I am using FF as opposed to IE, FF wins hands down everytime :)

The developer tools extension is one of the best addons for folks in our biz. Also, has a single click to view source code in a new tab...VERY handy for site reviews |headbang|


Hmmmm.......FP has that too.....and split screen.......
en-Garde!

|swordfigh

EmporerEJ 2005-04-26 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe
Pssshh... I think I'm on the highest resolution of everyone else:

1680x1050

I have fairly good vision, and have no trouble seeing fonts. The downside is reviewing sites in a non-native 800x600 resolution.

Nope, I got you beat overall....
1600 X 1200 (Count d'em pixels!)

Naaa naa!

|mml|

MrYum 2005-04-26 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ
Hmmmm.......FP has that too.....and split screen.......
en-Garde!

|swordfigh

Hmmm...ok...it's ON!

Does FP have an option to validate html and css???

Back atcha there big guy!
|swordfigh

spazlabz 2005-04-26 11:47 PM

1280x1024 because i used adobe premier pro and I honestly think that any lower resolution and I would not be able to view the work area with any efficiency at all

EmporerEJ 2005-04-27 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrYum
Hmmm...ok...it's ON!

Does FP have an option to validate html and css???

Back atcha there big guy!
|swordfigh


If I understand what you mean by "validate" I will give you a cautious "yes,"

(And watch for the fleche attack.....)
|swordfigh

binxgook 2005-04-27 02:21 AM

8x6 myself.

MrYum 2005-04-27 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ
If I understand what you mean by "validate" I will give you a cautious "yes,"

(And watch for the fleche attack.....)
|swordfigh

Damn, thought I'd get ya on that one! lol

It just runs the page through a few online validators to verify the code is tight and error free :)

Aw...fuck it...throw caution to the wind...attack! |swordfigh

OUCH! Poked myself with this damn thing! LMAO!

Cleo 2005-04-27 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SexyCityJim
1280x1024 because i used adobe premier pro and I honestly think that any lower resolution and I would not be able to view the work area with any efficiency at all

I have the same problem with Final Cut Pro. Even with two monitors I find myself wishing for more desktop space. Prices on large LCDs like in the 30" size are coming down, wishing, wishing…

Spreadsheets are evil too.

But it still doesn't matter with web sites since I keep my browser window about the same size as a magazine page would be.

EmporerEJ 2005-04-27 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrYum
Damn, thought I'd get ya on that one! lol

It just runs the page through a few online validators to verify the code is tight and error free :)

Aw...fuck it...throw caution to the wind...attack! |swordfigh

OUCH! Poked myself with this damn thing! LMAO!

How about we call it a draw?
I think it's a matter of personal preference anyhow, and I'm too damn old to learn something new.
:D

bdld 2005-04-27 04:12 PM

i'm at 1280x768, gotta love widescreens

Rui 2005-04-27 06:27 PM

I use 1280x1024, but I'm looking forward into raising my desktop workspace, this is clearly not enough for me :)

Jeremiasz 2005-04-27 06:38 PM

yeah need more space for dreamwaever and photoshop ;)

Blnt 2005-04-27 06:39 PM

1280x1024@19" monitor. Any lower resolution on my 19" looks preety bad for me. I build, submit and watch the sites in this res, and I personally think that this is kind of standart these times. I know that a lot of people still use 800x600 or 1024x768 (in work? :D).
Btw, I know a lot of different peole and the lower res they use is 1024x768.

Mr. Blue 2005-04-27 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo
Prices on large LCDs like in the 30" size are coming down, wishing, wishing….

That's on my wishlist...I saw a nice 30" LCD at a clients office...I worked on that comp all day long and had withdrawl when I went home and had my 17" waiting for me.

Cleo 2005-04-27 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue
That's on my wishlist...I saw a nice 30" LCD at a clients office...I worked on that comp all day long and had withdrawl when I went home and had my 17" waiting for me.

My rich neighbor has one. He doesn't have any programs installed on the computer except for the iApps and stuff that comes with a Mac so it's had to really get a feel for what can be done with this much desktop space.

Most web sites, including my stuff, look ridiculous on it if you surf with the browser full screen.

He uses everything full screen, even something like an open/save dialog.

Mr. Blue 2005-04-27 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo
My rich neighbor has one. He doesn't have any programs installed on the computer except for the iApps and stuff that comes with a Mac so it's had to really get a feel for what can be done with this much desktop space.

Most web sites, including my stuff, look ridiculous on it if you surf with the browser full screen.

He uses everything full screen, even something like an open/save dialog.

The first thing I did was check my webpages on it, wasn't easy as they had porn sites blocked, but I just slipped around using a proxy. 30" make webpages look ridiculous.

omg though, did photoshop look sexy at that size. Usually I have my tools panels half minimized or pushed off to the side...a little off the screen. 30" you could keep every tool panel open. I swear I haven't had lust like that over anything in awhile.

Sad thing is that the person I was working for...just used the computer to check email and browse the web. *sigh*

Cleo 2005-04-27 09:50 PM

My neighbor surfs porn sites, grabs images, adds them to iPhoto, and changes his desktop picture a lot, nothing else. It's painful to see this hardware not being utilized.

Mr. Blue 2005-04-27 10:00 PM

Sad thing is most people that can afford this stuff doesn't have to do the daily grind on the computer. One funny thing though, you could read this guys emails clear across the office. He typed everything in word first and would have it full screen and he would have it on like 200% or something.

To Whom It May Concern:

MrYum 2005-04-27 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ
How about we call it a draw?
I think it's a matter of personal preference anyhow, and I'm too damn old to learn something new.
:D

Works for me...though it must be said, you are a valiant opponent :D

Seriously though, totally understand what you mean. We get so used to our tools...it becomes difficult at best to change unless there's a really strong reason for it...

Cleo 2005-04-27 10:47 PM

In ten years computer screens are going to be whole walls or at least very large.

Magazines, books, and newspapers are a certain size not because they couldn't be made bigger but because it is a size that works for the format.

Just because a screen is 30" doesn't mean that web pages should be made that big. Just as magazines, books, and newspapers are not made the size of your whole desk or reading table.

Most things on the computer are modeled after real world items and I would imagine that web pages will end up the size of magazines, books, and newspapers instead of continuing to grow with screen sizes.

Mishi 2005-04-28 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo
In ten years computer screens are going to be whole walls or at least very large.

Magazines, books, and newspapers are a certain size not because they couldn't be made bigger but because it is a size that works for the format.

Just because a screen is 30" doesn't mean that web pages should be made that big. Just as magazines, books, and newspapers are not made the size of your whole desk or reading table.

Most things on the computer are modeled after real world items and I would imagine that web pages will end up the size of magazines, books, and newspapers instead of continuing to grow with screen sizes.


That's an excellent point. No matter what size and resolution monitors may reach, there will always be a range of paragraph widths and font sizes that are of a comfortable size for reading for most people.

I think there should be a CSS font-range parameter, or something...so we can have reasonable control over layout while still allowing the end-user to be comfortable.

SexyCityEddie 2005-04-28 02:30 PM

i prefer 1280 X 1024

Rui 2005-04-29 03:38 PM

Its a shame I can't find Dell monitors here, because they have some really great ones, really wanted to get a 2005fpw :(

mOrrI 2005-04-30 12:59 PM

I use 1024 x 768 :D

-efreet- 2005-05-01 02:33 AM

1024x768 - for me
800x600 - for sites

krki 2005-05-01 02:55 AM

Always use 800x600 resolution, I am too lazy to change it to higher.

Count Zero 2005-05-01 02:30 PM

I'm usually use resolution 1280x768


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