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plateman 2005-11-30 10:29 AM

they are on my list of sponsors not to join..

mariah 2005-12-01 10:36 PM

Just an update...they claim to have closed my account as well as this customer's account, yet I continue to get emails notifying me that sales are continuing to be made. He said that they refund the funds to him immediately but, hmmm...wouldnt he have to have access with a user/pass to buy the show? how is his cc being charged to get a sale completion for me to get those emails?

Sounds like someone is still making money but not being straight with me, doesnt it?

I hope that this guy does what he says in "90 days" and pays me what he owes me in full. He claims to have faxed copies of this guys ID, Credit Card and signed authorization yet he wont tell me who it is or show me proof of any documentation.
You cant bullshit a bullshitter, and this sure smells like bullshit to me.

Just an update!

Ramster 2005-12-01 11:01 PM

If they don't pay you I hope everyone NEVER promotes them and ALL their affiliated sites.

cosmiccat 2005-12-02 07:21 AM

It must be very frustrating. I went through the same thing years ago when I used to promote dailers. It was only a couple of hundred dollars but very frustrating nevertheless. Never did get paid.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirMoby
It amazes me at how a program will loose 10 times the amount of new sales by handling something this way. If they would have payed Mariah months ago and explained the situation they would have gotten new webmasters promoting them. Instead they come up with BS statements and loose so much more.

It amazes me too!!

Jim 2005-12-02 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L
Is it just me or does it seem that exposure of bad biz practices is at an all time high?

Wouldn't surprise me as the margins get tighter and program owners become increasingly desperate to stay in the black.

Seems that way...so watch yourself far-l, I have my eye on you :)

mariah 2006-02-13 08:01 PM

LiveBucks vs Mariah
 
Hey Jim...please dont put this to that old thread! :)
hey guys...some of you may have ready my posts in december regarding LiveBucks not paying me for the sales I sent on Privatefeeds...they owe me $3,348.87 and have not paid me a cent. They claimed in this thread http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ight=livebucks that they eat all chargebacks and refunds,,,,yet for some reason that doesnt apply to me?

They claimed after 2 months of the same guy buying shows every day that they had received from him a faxed copy of his ID and credit card as well as his signature authorizing his large spending and I need not worry.

SO I didnt....until the day before I was to get a $2309.18 epassporte transfer that the guy was charging back. screen shot: http://mariahxxx.net/stats.jpg
The owner, Karl Hamilton said he knows it wasnt me in the wrong, but he couldnt pay me until the claim had been investigated by the bank which would take up to 90 days.
Well, 90 days will be here February 28 and I'm gonna bet that I dont get a dollar.
I have emailed Karl several times and have gotten a few very weak replies. I demanded he show me some documentation that this was actually happening and he send me a screen shot of some page that said nothing! screen shot: http://mariahxxx.net/chbks.jpg Now if you look at that is that proof to you?

So I am to the point of having to take legal action against his company. My problem is this: He is in Montreal and I am in Florida. I have an attorney friend here who practiced law in Montreal for years and is helping me a lot, and said I will win for sure. The only thing he sees as a problem is this guy not paying me when he loses.

This is where you, the webmasters come in.
I ask that anyone who uses LiveBucks not use them any more or promote them in any way. Tell anyone you can about how they do business.
I will make it my crusade to be at every show, on every board and in every ear and email I can with all of this information.

I will copy and paste or forward emails from them if anyone would like to see proof of non payment or of their out-right lying to me.

I am sorry to be a whiner but I got fucked, and it sucks big time. Im a single mom and work my ass of on my site doing 6 live shows every week, and that money would have paid for my son's christmas and more.

Your help would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you!

Mariah

LB 2006-02-13 09:18 PM

Mariah, sounds like a real mess, and while I don't use livebucks I will definitely watch this one with interest.

However that being said, I think its stupid of them to claim they will eat all CB's and Refunds. If a surfer gets a refund or does a CB then the program should take that from the WM payout, especially with affiliate fraud as bad as it is nowdays (you wouldn't believe some of the things affiliates try when scamming a program!).

If they have had some huge chargebacks or a surfer who ripped them off blind, then I would be surprised if any affiliate program wouldn't treat it as a special case and watch the account/affiliate closely at the very least.

However in my personal opinion I think they should honor the payment terms you signed up to. :)

Good luck with it :)

mariah 2006-02-16 01:08 PM

FUCK LIVE BUCKS!

THEY WONT REPLY TO ANY EMAILS OR ICQ'S.....LOOKS LIKE ME AND A FEW FRIENDS ARE TAKING A ROD TRIP TO MONTREAL....KARL HAMILTON HERE I COME!


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