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Chop Smith 2005-12-08 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonZo
The versions Ive seen and the one we run was set by default to allow the user to encode or unencode the links.

Since most sponsors allow the option, I would think NATS version 2.x ships to allow the use of the encode/uncode option set 'on' by default.

Why would a few not allow the affilate the option?

GonZo 2005-12-08 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chop Smith
Since most sponsors allow the option, I would think NATS version 2.x ships to allow the use of the encode/uncode option set 'on' by default.

Why would a few not allow the affilate the option?

Some have claimed that they have affiliates that want the link encoded to battle fraud.

Read into that what what you will.

Chop Smith 2005-12-08 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonZo
Some have claimed that they have affiliates that want the link encoded to battle fraud.

Now, that is stupid on their part. Sponsors with NATS can offer their affiliates to have it either way - encoded or unencoded They do not have to decide for the masses.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonZo
Read into that what what you will.

Since I am a dumb fucker, it would be better for someone knowledgable of the NATS script to tell me.

SmithsMedia 2005-12-09 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chop Smith
Like a dog chases a bitch in heat, I chase host free sites. So I find a sponsor that say that they have hfs', so I run over and sign up. I then go look at what they have and to grab the link codes to discover that I can not use them because they have NATs encoded id's.

1. Why would a NATS' user not include NATS' encodes/unencoded option?
2. Why would a sponsor start a thread bitching about his dislike of his codes being encoded and months after NATS gives the option for unencoded he does have the option on his site.

Long time no speak chop merry xmas mate -

Thats nothing I pushed a site which was on CCBill then moved via some other system to Nats. - sorry my Nats rant |loony|

Since the move they have added sms as a payment option because they said Nats supported it, now I make like 3 US cents per sale instead of $14.99!

For one month now I have asked when it will be fixed and nothing has been done, to top all this off they also LOST my sales - on the friday night they were there, me and the sponsor saw them the next morning they were gone, about 400 USD.

To this day no one has explained what happened, I got paid the missing money not before the sponor offered to pay half as a good gesture.

I have two other Nats one I had started to build up though after getting the above issues I am not doing anything till I get paid and told what happened to the figures.

gobgook2 2005-12-09 11:04 AM

I've said this before - The person/company the comes out with something that combines the flexibility, cascading, and tracking power of NATS with the timely and combined payouts of CCBill will make a killing. That's my biggest gripe (sorry, nothing about encoded urls, etc). Internal payouts almost required a shift to higher payout levels, which smaller fish (like me) may take ages to reach, especially when testing new sponsors... I guess I'm just spoiled by CCBill's combining sales and timely payouts. Imagine if NATS were partnered with a company to do all payouts; instead of having to make $100 PER SPONSOR to get a payout, all sales from all sponsors counted together a la CCBill, and you KNEW you'd be getting a check every week instead of wondering whether or not a sponsor who pays out internally has their shit together, struggling with some sponsors to hit a high payout level, etc. Pipe dream perhaps, but somebody should get on that and make some bank! :)

Chop Smith 2005-12-09 01:08 PM

Hello, Mr Smith
Quote:

Originally Posted by gobgook2
...Pipe dream perhaps, but somebody should get on that and make some bank!

Maybe not. I snoop around from time to time trying to uncover secrets. :D I think there is a script out there that meets most of the things on your wish list. Hoping it is released to the masses soon.

Let me pull a DD here. The above is nothing more than a Chop speculation.

raymor 2005-12-16 05:51 AM

If NATS annoys you, take heart, NATS may not be used by very many people
much longer. There's a new system about to be unvieled that's objectively
proven to be better than NATS in many ways and costs a LOT less.
The NATS folks stole code from the wrong people and rather than hiring
lawyers to go after NATS legally they hired programmers to go after NATS
business - very good programmers. NATS' days are numbered.

Useless 2005-12-16 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor
...rather than hiring
lawyers to go after NATS legally they hired programmers to go after NATS
business...

I would have gone after their wives.
|smooch|

|blowjob|

|assfuck|

|cheers|

Toby 2005-12-16 08:10 AM

Moral of the story: Don't fuck with programmers.

Chop Smith 2005-12-16 01:56 PM

Will it use encoded affiliate ID's?

raymor 2005-12-16 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chop Smith
Will it use encoded affiliate ID's?

It'll be an option for the webmaster if that feature exists at all.
No encoding of your ID needed that I can see, though, just let you
use either any of the below URLs, whichever you choose.
This is easy enough:
http://domain.com/hosted/index.html?nads=chopsshit
http://domain.com/hosted/?nads=chopsshit
http://domain.com/hosted/index.html/nads=chopsshit
http://domain.com/hosted/nads=chopsshit
http://domain.com/hosted/index.html/nadsEQchopsshit
http://domain.com/hosted/nadsEQchopsshit

Chop would probably want to use this version:
http://domain.com/hosted/index.html/nadsEQchopsshit

Chop Smith 2005-12-16 05:19 PM

As far as on hosted promos, all that foreign characters like "EQ" needs to be left out.

raymor 2005-12-16 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chop Smith
As far as on hosted promos, all that foreign characters like "EQ" needs to be left out.

E and Q are foreign characters? So what, no letters allowed?

Chop Smith 2005-12-16 06:08 PM

If my affiliate id is 'chopsshit', yes the 'EQ' is foreign to my affiliate ID.
Now if the "EQ' is static, it is not a problem to do gnats=EQ%affcode%.

I fully understand the "QMYDPHPRDX" in StrongBox, but that kind of bullshit has no purpose in passing affiliate ids on promo stuff. If affiliate ids are top secret, then I might be the second most trusted person in this biz.

raymor 2005-12-17 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chop Smith
If my affiliate id is 'chopsshit', yes the 'EQ' is foreign to my affiliate ID.
Now if the "EQ' is static, it is not a problem to do gnats=EQ%affcode%.

Ah, yeah, the EQ is static. These are equalivent:
http://domain.com/hosted/nads=chopsshit
http://domain.com/hosted/nadsEQchopsshit

EQ means =

Chop Smith 2005-12-17 03:16 AM

:D The equal sign will work just fine for old Chop. Only have to hit one key.


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