The prior thread
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=27192

Geeeeeeeeeeeeez let it go, didn't you get the hint in the first post no one was interested in this scheme????

I think that a few people from this message board are giving it a try. Perhaps they will post something here after they've been paid by the program once or twice.

Not if they have any level of self-respect. You've no idea to what degree you've defamed yourself with this thread. I know you could care less about what I say, and I don't blame you, but you've lost a lot respect with this one.

I started this thread to tell you about a program I joined in November that's paying me good money. Better money than I'm making right now from other sponsors. Is that what makes me a bad person? Or was it the thing about being too poor to buy food for a few months last year that makes me a bad person? Too honest, should have kept that a secret?

[quote=Ann Omness]Is that what makes me a bad person? Or was it the thing about being too poor to buy food for a few months last year that makes me a bad person? quote]

You WEREN'T too poor to buy food, you were too lazy to get off your ass and do something to pay your bills instead of sending your child to a dumpster so you could eat. That's my personal opinion of it. You have gone from someone I didn't know to someone that repulses me in one simple post.

Ann, in case you can't figure it out, you are in a twisted sort of pyramid deal, from what I can tell.

You are getting paid back with the money someone else put in.

You put your money back in, and they pay off someone else... and so on. The only way you really make money is if you have none in the game when the music stops, otherwise it is just musical chairs with many players and few chairs.

If they were honestly making money just getting you to surf, there would be no reason to make a deposit. The deposits are their to lube the wheels and make it possible to make these amazing payouts... it won't last.

See history of Albania, if you want to understand more about this stuff.

Alex

...to the tune of "The Saints Go Marching In"

"Albania! Albania! You border on the Adriatic.
Your land is mostly mountainous,
And your chief export is chrome."
-- Ernie "Coach" Pantuso

Okay, not really Alex's point, but it's what always pops
into my head whenever I hear Albania mentioned. :D


Simon

fetish, I work 12 hours/day, 7 days/week. I'm still making more from my website business than I did when I worked for employers, so it wouldn't make any sense for me to "get off my ass" and get a regular job and a lower income. My daughter is an adult who works and goes to college. She buys her own food. She knew we didn't have money to buy groceries and she started bringing food home to us from the dumpster. If I'm a bad person for being hungry enough to eat it, so be it. I'm sorry you're so repulsed by this.

RawAlex, you may be right about the "get paid to surf" program that one day the "music will stop" and people will lose money. I don't know how it works, and I considered that possibility before I joined. I joined anyway, because it had already been running for six months at the time, always made its payouts on time, and it only takes three weeks to get your initial investment back out. Certainly there's a risk. I felt that the high rate of return and the quick turnaround on the money justified taking the chance and minimalized the risk, especially considering that the program has had such a good track record over six months. I don't expect it to last forever. I'm just hoping for a few more months, so I can pay off some bills and lower my monthly expenses. If I can accomplish that before the program goes down, the income from my website business will be enough to live on until I can get my house sold.

If the return is too high, if they are asking you to put money in to get money out, then it is very likely a pyramid or near pyramid.

If people stopped putting money in tomorrow, and not another cent went in, do you honestly think you woudl get paided back?

Nope.

They want you to re-invest. They want to keep the money in the game. They need it to be able to pay others and keep the cycle going, convincing people like you to "put it all back in and make it grow some more".

Good luck with it, but I would NOT recommend it to anyone.

Alex

There's only one level in the affiliate program, so it's not a pyramid. Most likely scenario is that it's a Ponzi scheme. If everybody stopped putting money in, I'm sure the program would go down. But how likely is that? They DON'T want you to "put it all back in and make it grow some more." They won't let you. The maximum you can have in memberships is $6000. If you're at the max level, you're forced to take your profits out because you can't reinvest anything more than your principal. If it is some kind of scam, why would they force people to take their profits out? They even track IP's to make sure people aren't running multiple accounts and they DO ban people who violate their terms of service that way. This month I'll have to take at least $4000 in profits out of the program because I'm at the maximum level now.

I'm not "recommending" that anyone else risk their own money the way I did. I risked my money two years ago when I bought Blue Wave, in the hopes that the website would generate enough income to justify the expense. I risk my money every month purchasing advertising, in the hopes that the advertising will generate enough sales to justify the expense. A lot of times it doesn't, but I keep hoping to find the magical traffic. I guess I'm just a risk-taker. This "get paid to surf" program is the first risk I've taken in years that is actually paying off for me. I thought some of the other risk-takers out there would appreciate knowing about it. If people I know make money from it, I'll feel good for having told them about it. If people I know lose money in it, I'll feel bad for having told them about it. It's a risk.

Well, for a few days anyway, I won't have any of my own money at risk in the program. It just paid me another $4300, leaving me $5800 in the bank account I use for this. I can't put any of it back into the program because I'm still at the maximum level with two $3000 memberships running. Those were paid for entirely from profits from the program and the $5800 in my bank more than pays off the credit card I used initially to join up. Feels good when the risk goes away.

The program paid me $4800 yesterday. I'm expecting another $4800 payment around Wednesday the 18th.

Not to sound repetitious, but great, buy some groceries and let your daughter take a break from the dumpster diving.

I will, Paul, thanks. As of today, I can afford to buy meat again and I'm going on the Atkins diet to lose the weight I gained eating nothing but fast food these past months.

Got paid another $4700 from the program yesterday. If this keeps up all year, I think I'll diversify with some other similar paid surfing programs and maybe sell my adult website business. Most of my time goes into the business, but most of my money now comes from the paid surfing.

I will admit I did not read this entire thead as 1/2 way into the 2nd page I just could not help myself from posting. Ann, stop bull shitting everyone ok. Stop talking shit. It's simple, you bought a large house when you were making all this money. Sell the fucking house and buy a smaller one. interest rates are still low and I'm sure you can find one around the dumpsters. Also in the time it takes your child to dive a trash can, she can be surfing and making all this money like you are or guess what. She is 19 she can get a fucking job and give you some money. Heres the other part that freaks me out. Your son went on a vacation from all his surfing. If my sis was going into trash cans to get food, the last thing I would be doing is taking a vacation. Mom and sis would get anything I had left over after my bills. I mean seriously my wife and I spend $400 per month on food and we shop once a month. We like to have plenty to eat just in case we have company. I would think if we left out the snacks and junk we would be able to get a lot more (real meals) for our money. What you are saying makes no sense to me. You surly can not manage your money correctly. You are pulling in 4k checks but yet still want to drop your CC down and risk your credit? Just sounds dumb. And you ask why some WM dont want to get involved with stuff like this? We me for one would not want anything from my surfers other then and honest buck. I would not try to get them in a program like this, I'm sure in the long run it would hurt me more then benefit. But like I said before just stop bullshitting us.

Hmm, this is a pretty weird thread. I'm pretty sure this is a case of "Sales Pitch Gone Too Far"...the only thing lacking in the pitch is someone blind being healed by the power of a pyramid scheme.

You have to give her credit for being relentless with it, though. "Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead"




(and here I swore to myself that I wasn't going to bumb this for her)

That's old news, juggernaut. I'm making $7000+ per month in profits from the surfing program now and buying my food from grocery stores. I'll copy and paste my account history for you to examine:

This first part is a history of my payments into the program:
135214 2005-11-15 $1800.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
138439 2005-11-16 $1800.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
178730 2005-11-27 $1380.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
206907 2005-12-04 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
228278 2005-12-09 $1800.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
264864 2005-12-16 $1800.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
305593 2005-12-23 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
342067 2005-12-28 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
402310 2006-01-07 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
437478 2006-01-11 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
490069 2006-01-19 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
570260 2006-01-26 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
624599 2006-01-31 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay

The dates on those are the expiration dates of the upgrades, which correspond to the payment dates below. It usually takes about a week for each payment to be processed.

This second part is payments I've received from the program:
134984 2005-11-15 $2592.00 $0.00 135214 StormPay
processed
138205 2005-11-16 $2592.00 $0.00 138439 StormPay
processed
178296 2005-11-27 $1993.68 $6.48 178730 StormPay
processed
206569 2005-12-04 $4752.00 $432.00 206907 StormPay
processed
227909 2005-12-09 $2592.00 $0.00 228278 StormPay
processed
264448 2005-12-16 $2383.92 $7.92 264864 StormPay
processed
305114 2005-12-23 $4612.32 $652.32 305593 StormPay
processed
341539 2005-12-28 $4363.20 $43.20 342067 StormPay
processed
401674 2006-01-07 $4868.64 $548.64 402310 StormPay
processed
436702 2006-01-11 $4789.44 $469.44 437478 StormPay
processed
489243 2006-01-19 $5598.72 $1278.72 490069 StormPay
pending

The first dollar amount is the amount of the payment. Second dollar amount is the amount of referrer commission included in the payment. The last 4 payments are payments I received or will receive this month. Subtract $3000 from each one to get my profit. It comes out to over $7300 in profit for January.

This next part is a history of my referrer commissions:
168273 2005-11-26 $6.48 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 120569
184699 2005-11-30 $216.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
187518 2005-12-01 $216.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
260448 2005-12-15 $7.92 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 120569
271287 2005-12-18 $0.72 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 174471
271307 2005-12-18 $72.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 166118
275854 2005-12-19 $2.88 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 173473
284353 2005-12-20 $288.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
284330 2005-12-20 $288.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
293702 2005-12-22 $0.72 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 174471
306846 2005-12-25 $7.20 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
318429 2005-12-27 $36.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
325126 2005-12-28 $7.92 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 120569
325338 2005-12-28 $2.16 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 194248
343798 2005-12-30 $131.76 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 166118
352861 2006-01-01 $360.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
355808 2006-01-01 $2.16 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 206492
365801 2006-01-03 $0.72 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 174471
372803 2006-01-04 $7.92 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 120569
380897 2006-01-06 $36.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
390767 2006-01-07 $100.80 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 166118
392076 2006-01-07 $12.24 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 206492
392178 2006-01-07 $0.72 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 221081
394392 2006-01-07 $21.60 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
403531 2006-01-08 $360.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
406287 2006-01-09 $1.44 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 230767
407888 2006-01-09 $7.20 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 233168
433619 2006-01-11 $72.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 238445
441564 2006-01-12 $28.80 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 239991
453194 2006-01-13 $0.72 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 251257
450363 2006-01-13 $360.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
446155 2006-01-13 $61.20 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 206492
459992 2006-01-14 $10.80 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 251466
467129 2006-01-15 $25.20 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 230767
467309 2006-01-15 $72.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 256778
474004 2006-01-16 $237.60 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
487205 2006-01-17 $1.44 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 251257
499262 2006-01-18 $70.56 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 120569
495719 2006-01-18 $158.40 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
499598 2006-01-18 $120.24 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 166118
502953 2006-01-19 $59.76 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 238445

Those are my stats. If you think I went to the trouble of making all that up, seriously, it's not that important to me. Even without referral commissions, I'd make $6000/month in profit just from doing the surfing.

DO you not get it?????????????????? We are NOT interested in your scheme, several are disgusted by your ability to blow off the fact that your daughter went dumpster diving for you (I might add I was even more disgraced for you once you posted that she had a job and made money, but she went dumpster diving for YOU because you wanted to save your almighty credit card rating) and we ARENT planning on changing our minds. Hell perhaps your daughter could have taken a vacation like your son, but between work and your daily meal that she had to provide, she hasn't had a chance to....

I am amazed that after seeing the responses here, you still don't let it go!

She'd make a good quarterback, she stays in the pocket no matter what's coming her way.

As for Ann, I don't doubt you're making money with this scheme...but come on fess up that the dumpster diving thing was sales pitch gone bad because there's no way that's true. |thumb

The dumpster diving thing was just an honest answer to a question about why I didn't use my credit card to buy groceries instead of using it to invest in something that would make money for me. When you start using credit cards to buy consumables out of necessity, you know your're on the way down the tubes. I wanted to use my credit card to invest in something that would fix my financial situation, not make it worse. Obviously, it was a mistake to share so much about my personal life.

I'm going to take fetish1's advice. Unless someone asks me to respond in this thread, I'll stop posting here. After it dies, I'll start a new thread and try to be careful in that one not to share personal information about myself, since it's totally irrelevent to the topic anyway.

Most people would say that once your children are eating out trash cans, you've already slid out of the tubes. If I ever put my credit rating ahead of feeding my children, shoot me.

LOL That's the sad part UW, her daughter has a job and goes to college, and she let the daughter feed her by diving into dumpsters to save the "spending the credit card money". I can see it now, the girl gets done with work and school and a friend says, "wanna go grab a pizza with the rest of us?" Daughters response, "Nope, sorry gotta go get mom some food outta the dumpster cause she doesn't want to ruin her credit rating, maybe some other time!" |dizzy|

I'd recommend simply dropping the subject entirely. The last time you posted a new thread on this same topic the moderators merged the two back to one. I think the message there is pretty clear.

|waves|

People like you should be banned from a respectable board like Greenguy's And Jim's. This is a fucking shame.

Ditto..

i've adjusted my submit list accordingly.

Anybody Live in Reed City?
 

Maybe they could tell me which dumpster 'she' dives at.

http://www.fetishalliance.net/Links/...es/therask.htm
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com...ndy-L-Appleby/

Registrant:
Proctor, Charles

405 W Upton
Reed City, MI 49677
US

Domain Name: BLUEWAVELINKS.COM

Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
Proctor, Charles
chuc@netonecom.net
405 W Upton
Reed City, MI 49677
US
Phone: 231-832-5446

Post the links to your adult websites that have been around since 99.

There is something disturbingly weird and wrong about this thread

Yeah 'she' says she only works 12 hours a day on her sites... I work 18.
Lmao|acid|

I've been ignoring this thread, mostly because of it's location :D

Can someone summarize this in a sentence or 2 & let me know if anyone needs to be BANNED! |thumb

Summary:
- Ann Omness presented an online money making opportunity that many think is a scam.
- Some people are critical of the way Ann lives her life.
- Some people think Ann is not Ann, but a man.
- Nobody needs to be banned.

Some people know this statement to be fact :D

Ok - have fun |waves|

I love it!

"Okay...no problems here...carry on"

Greenie is patrolling the beat :D

Just saw this elsewhere, I usually don't pull old threads back, but..

I TOLD YOU SO!


Freeze of Assets Is Sought
After Offer of 44% Return
For Looking at Online Ads
By MARK MAREMONT
February 27, 2006; Page C8

The Securities and Exchange Commission filed a court action seeking to freeze the assets of 12DailyPro, and the agency is accusing the Web site and its operator of running an Internet Ponzi scheme that the SEC said has raised more than $50 million from more than 300,000 investors who were promised huge profits on their money.

The asset-freeze motion, filed late Friday in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, seeks to have a receiver appointed to oversee the operations of 12DailyPro and its parent, LifeClicks LLC, according to an attorney familiar with the filing. The Internet company's operator, a Charlotte, N.C., woman named Charis Johnson, has agreed to the proposed order, according to the attorney. The filing wasn't available immediately through the court's electronic documents service.

A judge has yet to rule on the proposed order but judicial approval is considered likely.

Started last spring, 12DailyPro promised "members" that they could earn 44% returns on their money in just 12 days simply by viewing Web advertisements. Thousands of people from all over the world put up membership fees of as much as $6,000 every dozen days. For a while, some got the profits promised. But early this month, 12DailyPro essentially shut down after its primary online-payment processor, StormPay Inc., froze the company's funds, saying it had been alerted that 12DailyPro may have been conducting a fraud.

The SEC said the amount of investor funds voluntarily frozen by StormPay was about $50 million, the attorney familiar with the filing said, although it is unclear whether the full amount is still available. The SEC also is seeking to freeze about $1.9 million of funds transferred from 12DailyPro to bank accounts controlled by Ms. Johnson.

The 12DailyPro site was among the largest of dozens of so-called autosurf Web sites on the Internet. With names such as Auto.ExchangeTrade.com and Vegasurf.com, the sites ride a legitimate trend -- the surge in Internet advertising -- by promising generous returns to members who agree to view their ads. Most also let members advertise their Web sites to each other.

Autosurf sites can be legitimate, while some promise such huge profits that critics accuse them of running Ponzi schemes. Named for Charles Ponzi, an Italian immigrant to the U.S. who gained notoriety early in the 20th century, a Ponzi scheme is a fraud that promises huge returns to investors but pays them with money from subsequent investors rather than from revenue generated by business.

An attorney for 12DailyPro and Ms. Johnson couldn't be reached for comment. Ms. Johnson released a statement on the 12DailyPro Web site saying her company planned early this week to announce "a compromise" with authorities that "will lead to the resolution of this matter and the beginnings of an accounting and refund process." In the past, Ms. Johnson has maintained that 12DailyPro was a legitimate operation, and she blamed its woes on a commercial dispute with StormPay.

A key figure in the shutdown of 12DailyPro was Barry Minkow, a former carpet-cleaning executive who was convicted of securities fraud in the 1980s before he turned to helping regulators and investigators detect other frauds.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation and various state officials also are investigating 12DailyPro.

Yep, think that's about what most everyone expected to see come down the pipe. Thanks for posting it Alex |thumb

Gee, and Mr Ann hasn't been back lately...wonder why :D