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RawAlex 2006-03-17 02:23 AM

Glowlite, well thought out, but I have to disagree with your concepts.

Budweiser and all the other companies that buy ad space on TV are not spamming. When you watch TV, you are accepting a contract that effectively says "in order to pay for this program, we sell ad space. If you want to watch the free TV show that cost millions of dollars to producer and distribute, you have to accept advertising. If you don't want advertising, pay your sat or cable company for HBO, which will cost you $x per month so that you don't have to look at commercial ads".

It is the same deal as broadcast radio - they play music, and in return, they hope you will also listen to the commercials that come up in between songs or programming. If you don't want the ads, call XM or whoever, and they will gladly take $X per month so that you don't have to be burdened by the commercials.

The internet works in reverse.

We pay for our net connection, we pay for the computer and software to access it, and spammers get to send shit to us for free (or such a low cost per piece that it is effectively free). They don't pay us to look at their ads, they don't give us a product (tv show, radio show, movie) to enjoy, they just jump right in and interrupt our lives and say "fuck you, here is my ad anyway".

Again, if I only received a couple of unwanted emails I day I wouldn't complain. But I have personally deleted 1000+ pieces today (post filters, time to add some new ones, I guess), which, even at 5 seconds a piece, it means I spent more than an hour hitting the fucking delete button just to get rid of shit.

Can you imagine having people come to your front door every 20 seconds all day, ringing your doorbell every 87 seconds? That it what spam it like to me. Every 87 seconds on average I get another spam that makes it's way into my inbox, requiring me to look to see if it is valid or not. (I got 5 more pieces in the time it took me to write this post).

All day, all night, without interruption, every 87 seconds your doorbell gets rung, or your phone rings, or someone just barges into your office and tries to sell your a stupid fucking rip off $20 rolex knockoff for $300.

No censorship - if you don't have my permission to spam me and waste my time, don't waste my time.

Alex

Ramster 2006-03-17 08:06 AM

Ok I will say this. Jail time for spammers is a tough call. I mean really as already said violent crimes get away with very little jail time all the time. How do you put a stay at home Mom in jail for sending email spam? Taking her kids away to foster care, ect, that's a tough one to justify. Second offense? Lock her ass up!!!!

I guess we'll see what she gets for punishment.

tickler 2006-03-17 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
Budweiser and all the other companies that buy ad space on TV are not spamming. When you watch TV, you are accepting a contract that effectively says "in order to pay for this program, we sell ad space. If you want to watch the free TV show that cost millions of dollars to producer and distribute, you have to accept advertising. If you don't want advertising, pay your sat or cable company for HBO, which will cost you $x per month so that you don't have to look at commercial ads".

I saw something on CNN the other day about sponsors thinking outside the box to reach consumers that use TIVO, etc. to block commercials.

Apparently the Kentucky Fried commercial where 2 guys are having chicken and the other guys has noodles has a hidden discount code buried in it. Now you gotta watch the commercial in slow motion to get the freebie.

Another $$$ consideration on email spam is it is taking up something like 30-40% of the internet overhead by chewing up bankbone BW, etc.

Tommy 2006-03-17 12:21 PM

I argee with Ramster 100%

and the only reasons I have been sticking up for her is because its really not fair to send a low level spamer away for 10 years
especially a stay at home mom
(I know those facts are in dispute)

Rawalex I get about 1000 spams a day, maybe 400 get past my filters
it doesnt take me no 10 secs a email

I am sure it doesnt take no more then 3 mins to look thru em and dump em

fetish1 2006-03-17 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy
especially a stay at home mom
(I know those facts are in dispute)

There is no dispute over this...here are direct quotes from her "I need to come clean" statement on mommyjobs.com

Quote:

Apparently he had been sending adult-themed spam emails (yes I know....ugh) and he wanted to train me how to send them for him and he would pay me $6000/month. My first thought was "no way, this is illegal and I'm not doing anything illegal". It was bad enough that I was doing "immoral" things such as working on his adult sites.
Then when he told me to "keep it quiet" I asked him once again if he was sure it wasn't illegal. He insisted that it was not illegal and the reason that I had to keep it quiet was because he didn't want to get sued in civil court by anyone (this was a man who had millions). So I relented....
I made a promise to God. I told him that I would stop working with the adult themed material as long as he helped me become a success with my non-adult sites (mommyjobs.com and my other sites).
Furthermore I feel like I have to "come clean" about something else. In another extremely poor decision made by me (although I have learned differently now) I felt that in order to run a WAHM site I had to be a WAHM. Indeed I do work at home with my spouse, but I don't have any children. The "son" that I speak of is actually my nephew whom I feel very close to as if he were my son! So I have not lied about having a little man in my life, I only embellished that he was mine in order to have more credibility.

So, she asked if it was illegal, he said NO, but keep it on the hush hush cause I don't wanna be sued....Um OK! Then she tried to make a deal with God, I will quit this porn stuff IF I can make enough money at something else...so if God doesn't let me then I will continue to peddle porn. Next, she lied to unsuspecting "mommys" to gain credibility with another "legal" website.

Gimme a break, we need to quit looking at this girl as the Virgin Mary who is looked down upon for her unwed pregnancy!

She isn't a mommy who wants to work at home to stay with her kids.

I have a HARD time believing that she thought she was making $6000 a mo sending porn spam out that the boss wanted done on the hush hush and DIDN'T think something was fishy.

She has lied to make herself credible on the mommy site, why wouldn't she lie to cover up that she knew what she was doing was illegal??


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