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Paul Markham2 2006-03-22 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by basschick
i think it depends on the content. we're shooting bodybuilders posing, and sometimes it makes sense to have them look into the camera, but sometimes it really doesn't.

i like the feeling that a solo girl alone in her bedroom gives when she undresses and plays with herself as if the camera wasn't even there. i think it's way sexy. also - and this may be a female perspective - the second i see a girl supposedly in the throes of passion looking into the camera instead of at her partner or closing her eyes, i pretty much feel she's faking it.

as far as photographers who talk and talk and talk, that drives me fucking NUTS! i once talked to photogregg about this and he said without the talking, the scenes get boring. i disagree - i think that surfers want to focus on the girl or the sex, but that's only my opinion... and the opinions of all the members who wrote and asked if we could get the photographer to shut up *LOL*

Good points.

There are no "Golden Rules" in porn. In fact you will always find someone who likes it. The aim is to cover as many bases without diluting the whole thing and losing the penetration.

Yes there is a niche where the girl does not look at the camera, other than "Voyeur", but the girl must look very natural and still show something. Tough call.

Then there is the niche where the girl looks into the camera, but unless you have someone be3hind it who is motivating the girl to do more then "Look at the camera" it can be useless.

For couples work there is both themes, looking at the partner and at the camera. But both need to show something different. One is a girl hot to fuck the person she is with, the other is her teasing the onlooker yet still enjoying herself and her partner.

And there are people who like to here a shooter talking to a girl, problem is when the girl talks back with nothing in her voice to betray enjoyment.

Fortunately for those who understand porn there are no "Golden Rules". Except one.

It has to get a guys dick hard enough for him to get his wallet out.

But like great cooking, you might have all the ingredients for Coq Au Van, but if you don't have the flair to put them together all you will end up with is chicken stew with wine.

american perv 2006-03-22 06:12 PM

i like when the model looks at the camera, but not in every pic

KCat 2006-03-24 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basschick
i like the feeling that a solo girl alone in her bedroom gives when she undresses and plays with herself as if the camera wasn't even there. i think it's way sexy. also - and this may be a female perspective - the second i see a girl supposedly in the throes of passion looking into the camera instead of at her partner or closing her eyes, i pretty much feel she's faking it.


I totally agree. I do like some eye contact when it's presented in a "look at these hot photos I shot just for you! I was thinking about how hard your cock would get while I was playing" context.

My biggest turn-off are the very posed shots where the girl is looking right at the camera with a big cheesy smile on her face. I can almost hear the photographer in the background saying, 1 - 2 - 3 - SMILE! It's the Walmart of porn photography.

The sample shots of Raven, on the other hand, have a very sexy look, inviting the viewer to see more.

Paul Markham2 2006-03-25 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KCat
I totally agree. I do like some eye contact when it's presented in a "look at these hot photos I shot just for you! I was thinking about how hard your cock would get while I was playing" context.

My biggest turn-off are the very posed shots where the girl is looking right at the camera with a big cheesy smile on her face. I can almost hear the photographer in the background saying, 1 - 2 - 3 - SMILE! It's the Walmart of porn photography.

The sample shots of Raven, on the other hand, have a very sexy look, inviting the viewer to see more.

getting a model to look into the camera with that thought in her head is tough. But we had to do it in the days of old for the magazines.

However tough to do when people want to buy sets for $10 or $200 exclusive. some exclusive shooters are forced to do 10 sets a day to make it pay. Some think shooting porn is a race.

In this business like all others you get what you pay for.

Content is not a level playing field. A good set can bring in 100 sign ups from a non Internet source. Don't bother asking me because I'm not telling you about it. The content is the first thing a surfer sees, it's what stops or makes him hit the back button, it's what makes him get his credit card out. It's what makes him stay or come back 6 months down the line. This is what keeps affiliates happy, the freebies are just to get him interested. The money keeps him.

So why do so many buy content on price?

MarkTiarra 2006-03-25 03:25 PM

I'm a fan of the eye contact, especially on oral shots. Doesn't need to be every pic by any means but it's good to have a nice selection of them in every shoot. Those type pics work great on tours too.

KCat 2006-03-25 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham2
So why do so many buy content on price?


Because they can. If I have the choice of $10 non-exclusive or $200 exclusive, I'll take the $10 all day long. Some models, some sets sell very well & in my experience, the exclusive girls I use don't out perform the non-exclusive. That seems to be something that webmasters are more concerned with than surfers.

I think the way you have your stores set up is brilliant. I can buy a bunch of bargain basement sets & if my members really like one particular model, you can bet I'm going to hunt down more of her sets. I might get one or two for $5, but the rest are $40. Works well for everybody.

Seba 2006-03-29 06:59 AM

Personally, I like pics where the girl is not looking into the cam. I like being an observer :D


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