One other point is really to answer the question you asked Greenie - with an example - you and I know that there are quite a few link lists banned from Yahoo - myself being one of them, Hoes and others - and yet we all link to each other without caring about that, because we know that the trades we have are respected by Google (and they do have quite a bit more traffic :) ) and provide not only the natural linking structures we want but also do provide a good experience for our surfers (which is a heck of a lot more important than worrying about whether a free site is listed in yahoo)

I DIDN'T BAN THE DOMAIN BECAUSE OF THE 403 |banghead|

I DIDN'T BAN THE DOMAIN BECAUSE OF THE PR0 |banghead|

I DIDN'T BAN THE DOMAIN BECAUSE GOOGLE SHOWS ZERO LINKS BACK |banghead|

Linkster - let me rephrase the question - and a simple yes or no will do - would you list I site that you thought was banned by Google?

:)

Greenie - if I could ever figure out a site was banned by Google I would remove it - and I believe we did about 3 years ago for one link list that got banned

This whole fucking problem is becasue the root was 403 - if there was an index page in there, I would have never banned it.

But like I've said before, not once did it cross my mind that a legit webmaster that's owned a domain for almost 2 years would have a 403 index & only after all this came out in the open, realized that they could upload fucking files to the fucking root of the fucking domain.

If Japamor had an index page on this domain, would this thread even exisit?

We all make mistakes and adjustments have to be made. Looks like Japamor corrected his and is moving forward.

I don't know what all the fuss is about....getting listed is a privilege not a right and if GG decides it's in his best interest to pull some links then it's his right to do so without having to answer to anyone. I was one of the first to get my links pulled and was dumbfounded when he told me that there was actually a problem with the domain. The drop in traffic stung a little but I respected what he was doing and have no problem with it.

I have more of a problem with Google in trying to figure out what happened with my domain as it only contained freesites and an index page of my freesites and a few links to paysites. When I figure out how to remedy the problem with my domain I'll resubmit my sites. Thanks GG for the heads up |thumb

If this was in Celtic's robots.txt file, would it have caused his problem?
"User-agent: *
Crawl-Delay: 20"

Thanks Chop - the voice of reason.

Well, I've certainly learned my lesson and I've now put an index page on my domain.

My domain is banned by LOR and my last site has been refused today by another LL as a result of this thread. Can anyone explain why I am also blacklisted on
http://bl.usefulscripts.com/blocked/search.phtml
for the reason given being 'google issues'. And how the hell do I get off it?

It seems that the most sensible thing I can do in the future is submit from another domain or, more likely, several domains. If Google relent about japamor.com I'll start using that again.

Just to clarify - I didn't put the robots.txt file up - like alot of webmasters (I'm presuming) I didn't have a robots.txt file up but I'm presuming that when I was trying out a link list/directory script and it was put up during the install and when I took the script down alas it remained unnoticed. Not sure if it was the cause of my downfall but after searching the domain it was the only thing suspect I could find.

japamor - I actually added your sites back in with this morning's update & I removed you from the blacklist as well.

GG, That's great news and a big relief. Thanks very much. |thumb

I have to say this thread really motivated Tart and I to do something that we've been putting off for quite a while and that is updating some of our freesites. I really have subscribed to the build submit tweak and forget mode of work but we realized that we have a multitude of sites out there.. some with PR and some with none.. but it doesn't matter because they are all linked somewhere and someone is peeping at them.

so this thread has motiviated us to take a look, update the sponsors since several of them bit the dust with the last round of 2257 freak show and really tighten up with keywords etc. Where they have fallen off--and lets be clear here--a six month self life is really the average, not the exception--we are resubmitting them and have added in several new LL that weren't even around back when we first built them.

You'll notice that Tart has improved greatly on her color palet these days. :D

So while some may have looked upon this thread as a "negative" -- we really appreciate the additional motivation that it inspired.

I have a sign that has been over my desk for the last 5 years--something i learned from Ramster -- it says BUILD.. today i put in small letters "re-build"

|thumb

WHAWHAWHATTT? :D

Oh don't worry, I'll be sure to sneak in one that requires you putting your shades on now and again. :D

I don't know why that would have caused a problem. Unless maybe it was misunderstood/mistaken for something else. All it should do is tell a bot how long to wait between crawls. The crawl-delay only works when supported, which I believe is by the bots for some search engines: Yahoo, MSN, Ask, etc. (It's not supported by Google's bots I believe... anyone know for sure?)

I could see someone getting upset at things you might do with the noindex, nofollow, disallow directives. But a crawl-delay of 20 seconds can't be used to do anything nasty/tricky as far as I know... and someone please correct me if I'm missing something here.

I had a trawl through my various freesites as well, many domains have been on the "set and forget" thing for a while.

I've discovered that my domain http://www.naked-men-for-women.com/ is on the blacklist for a 404... not sure why, it was probably ages ago.

Anyway, can someone take it off the list?

http://www.naked-men-for-women.com/ shows "INACTIVE" when I look it up so you're already off of there :)

Ah, so that's what it means.
* Looks a little sheepish*
Cool.

Me too! Usefulscripts has mine as: '1 block' reason: 'bad se implications'
The term 'usefulscripts' is an oxymoron since it's not very useful when you try to appeal. So if any of you guys have me on a blacklist...
Please let me know why? Think I shot myself in the foot by mentioning this before as all my sites vanished from LOR and SG.
Found out google dropped it (although it's still on msn and yahoo)
Those engines have higher alexa ratings anyway... Right?
Also did that domaintool thingy mentioned earlier and the blacklist there says 'clear'. The only thing I can think of is I have the same domain name (with hyphens) that points to the main page on this one. Is that considered a 'doorway'?
Also, if it IS... Do I win the prize for the dumbest newbie question of the day? Thanks for any advice! Christopher