We don't even disagree I totally see where you're coming from and you are technically right. However, the market based reality is 21st century. Some CEO (Sun I think) years ago annoyed me with the proclamation that "privacy is dead, get over it" but he was right. The same can be said about "copyright is dead". The present model is just thrashing on the doctor's table and you're seeing the reality of it in things like we discussing here.

I would suggest that it is BECAUSE there is so much free porn out there that a site like porntube could be viable.... not the other way around. There has been way too much free porn out there becasue of the intense competition of having so many people in the business who really probably should'nt be there.

This phenomonon has been predicted for many years depending on broadband bandwidth infrastructure growth.

I totally agree that a company doing this had better have some good lawyers though 'cause they'll be in a dozen state courts on lots of bullshit cases.

But video is coming and coming FAST and its clearly what surfers want. WM's who want to stay better figure out how to do it or some version of it. Also, think.... how video transcends the marketplace and limitations of web language and reach. How many Mexican nationals are here on the board? A video site might be seeing international conversions go through the roof.

Would you like to direct that at anyone in particular or was it just a general statement?

Intented for general consumption.


Pornotube has a model already established and proving to produce traffic.
Is PornoTube profitable? <---That is another discussion.
Does it have traffic? Yes.

A more savvy webmaster can exploit(in the good way) PornoTube's traffic for their own websites.

How so?

Affiliate webmasters can buy some video clips and brand them with their own url. (ATGP, MGP, or Free Site owner could put their url on the video)

The problem now though is, if the video shows anything more than titties their has to be a 2257 disclaimer in the first part of the video.

I don't see hardly anyone doing this though. Very scary if you ask me.

I've been wondering for some time why the owners of linklists, tgps and similar types of sites have not adapted their marketing plans to include newer opportunities. It wouldn't be a huge undertaking to comission a video clip or assemble galleries/ freesites that promote their link list as a whole, rather than the individual sponsors. Think of it like a commercial... "At ____.com you'll find....." You could get really creative with this stuff, and not be limited by how an individual paysite or sponsor needs to be represented. The galleries/ freesites could be submitted or traded- probably more effective than a 120x60 recip, and the clips could be used in places such as pornotube or peer-to-peer.
Just like beer commercials, they don't even need to show the product, but maybe reflect an attitude. The possibilities are endless.

Do you work in Charlotte in a role Im unaware of?
Your making a lot of uninformed assumtions here.

I've seen some free sites that were nothing but advertisements for a link list & I've seen a lot of them that have something along the line of "This site & many others like it can be found at...."

OK, in keeping with the can't beat'em, join'em line of thought. No one has asked the sixty-four thousand dollar question.

How well does this traffic convert if you are successful at diverting some of it to your LL or TGP? Just how much time and effort is justified?

I can answer that question. Weve seen great conversion running clips that go directly to Squirting Carly at Fat Fucking Cash.

And if you have a unique or eye cathicng title or video clip I can pump traffic to any free site that Ive had by putting the url in a few clips.

For a sponsor you can't get any more targeted traffic that type in traffic. It converts the best. Hands down.

Not to sure if you will get the same conversions from people typing into a linklist or tgp but it still has to be pretty good.

If I were an affiliate I would buy a domain name for each sponsor and redirect that domain right to the sponsor tour on it's own campaign.

You see this method being utilized a lot with USENET and P2P

The part about 'evolve or die', well youtube already seems old to me. Sure now we have a porno-tube, where was the evolution in that jump.

Greenie: I can't believe you dissed css man, it is so useful :)

Still though.. you couldn't call it 'boob-tube'? :)