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Okay, I'll build three pages. Here's my question: what should the main url have on it? Everyone says freesite but no one has one site, with a single url that they put up once just for one submit. So if bobsblowjobs.com wants to submit a free site, he builds his bobsblowjobs.com/freesite/ page... etc... so my question is, what should bobsblowjobs have on his homepage? Links to all the freepages?
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The general idea to get traffic to that page is to NOT submit that page to LL's but place links to bobsblowjobs.com on the FOUR page freesites you make. So in general you build a bobsblowjobs.com/freesite/ that you submit to the LL's. And through links on those freesites you promote your main site and other sponsors. |
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I like the idea of putting a big picture of you on my main page. Would probably generate more traffic:)) |
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You mention for those that have listed them, they do quite well. What do you base that on? Hits? Sales? What?
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Okay, I understand now... thank you thank you thank you....sigh.... |love| |
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Ok, so how many uniques do you think is 'quite well'?
For me, a TGP gallery does 'good' at 50k uniques and 'great' at 100k uniques. Do you know your CTR (Click-Through-Ratio)? In other words, what % of uniques from your gallery click through to your sponsor(s)? |
Fonz pretty much nailed it.Let me attempt to break it down for you as well just to drive it home.After all,repetition is the best way to learn something new.
For now on,let's refer to your main site http://sexysascha.com/ as your hub.On this page you don't have to follow any rules so you can do whatever your little heart desires although I recommend keeping your current design or something similar because it looks great.|thumb Now let's move on to free sites and galleries. This http://sexysascha.com/free181/swedishteen/ is called a gallery.TGP's list these.Surfers click through these quickly and usually pass up or don't even notice your advertisement.It takes LOT'S of traffic to benefit from these types of pages. This http://www.crazyfetishporn.com/frees...x/matureadult/ is a 'mini site' called a free site.Link lists list these.Surfers have to do a bit of surfing before they get to the porn.It's sort of like saying 'heres your porn...but first the bullshit! The bullshit is where you make your money! Most everyone at this board is into mostly building and listing 'free sites' like the one I listed above.Although every 'free site' has it's own unique look and design,they all maintain a standard structure to them - a waring page, a main page, and 2 or more galleries. This never changes. Quote:
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And another question: are there any benefits to submitting a TGP? I owe you guys so much- believe it or not, I do have some skills so hopefully there will be a way for me to make all of this up to you later.. Okay, one more question. With all the free porn out there, how does one compete? Like with this guy (and I'm sorry if you're around on this board but I don't understand) anyway, this guy: http://www.spankwire.com/ When I see that I get thrown all off course.... Thank you for everything and I will make it up to you somehow!!! |
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we just want to see you do well Krista |thumb Quote:
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Okay, I got it now. I'm sorry. It was really like everyone was speaking Japanese to me with the mention of "free site." I'm fixing it:) Thanks for being patient. Thanks again Star Man! You're sort of like the Special Ed teacher for the board! :) |
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Glad I could help. :) |
>> And another question: are there any benefits to submitting a TGP?
Funny I just posted this the other day. Maybe it helps. http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=50334 |
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You gotta be lean and mean and adapt or die...Kisa is correct in that she wants to adapt even though she may be a little or a lot off course. The idea of adapting is what will see her through in the long run. The "we got 'em by the balls" era is long over and half past dead. |
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Not only is "we got 'em by the balls" alive,it's well!|headbang| (cute huh?) |
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You really have to get out more often :) Anyone who thinks they have the surfer by the balls is just perpetrating a lie about this industry. Making money in adult has never been more difficult and that's a fact. P2P networks, social porn sharing networks and torrent sites among others have taken a huge chunk out of the bottom line. Time to make yourself aware of the new reality. "We got 'em by the balls" is unfortunately over. Stop talking bullshit. |
I just can't get past sites like this http://www.pornhub.com/
I just can't get past that.... I'm looking at it and I'm thinking, why would anyone want to look at a few previews? Are the distributors and studios going after sites like that one or is it just being accepted? It can't just be accepted... the studios, distributors, etc would stand to lose too much money if they don't start getting control of at least some of it... But I go back to my original theory which is, I have no problem making the standard three page freesite (that I completely did not understand before) but I still don't know why anyone would wade through layers of links and then click through several pages when they can just go to pornhub or youporn?? I'm seriously not trying to be difficult... just trying to work it all out. I would also add that submitting freesites and posting those links, etc is obviously the 'right' thing to do but if no one is pushing back against fucktards who are stealing content and posting it in its entirety, then everyone is doomed.... I got over the whole 'share' thing years ago when I finally had to start working. But it's hard to convince some little shit in a dorm room that people don't actually work for free so he can get off.... posting all that content is stealing but if no one's going after them then I guess it's theirs for the taking??? I don't know... I have no idea what's being done to stop it. |
You know,when I first read your response I started typing out a real hateful smart ass post but realized maybe I was a bit unclear and sounded cocky by my above statements so let me clarify.
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Let me explain 'by the balls' to you ned.I (and others I'm sure) attempt to create ads,text links,sites,content etc. that takes advantage of a surfer thinking with the head below the waist- Hence, 'I got them by the balls' literraly!Surfers have their pants around their ankles and I lure them in by the balls with porn,text ads etc.Nobody's perpetrating lie's or talking bullshit here ned. I'm not some big shot webmaster but I do know how to make a sale and do so quite often and am willing to teach others how to do the same.So until surfers stop clicking on sponsor links and joing pay sites please ned02...SHUT THE FUCK UP! |
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I really think that Kisa should keep listening to you, the guy who told her that having a warning page would harm her in the SEs, the guy who told her to get rid of the text on her site and hand the porn to the surfers immediately, the guy who speaks in generalities and disagrees with others while never quite explaining why. My guess is that you either know what you are doing and have piss-poor communication skills, or, your ultimate goal is to sink any possible future competition. |
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Now gimmi a tasty cake with extra sprinkles you little grammar Nazi you! |jester| |
Judging from the reaction of Starman and uw, I'd say I hit the nail on the head :)
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Last night, I couldn't stop thinking about what the past few years have meant for adults working in the porn industry (as in the models/actors) I now believe that those people are being horribly exploited but it's not the porn industry that's doing it. It's the fucknuts at Pornhub, etc... I thought of the girls and the guys who expose themselves for the sake of making a living only to have it stolen away and that's sad. There's very little sympathy out there in the mainstream world for these people. It's much easier for Bono to go whine about his music being stolen..... no one wants to listen to a pornstar, they only want to watch it for free and then lie about it. Anyway, I'll play by the rules because I don't really have a choice but I still believe that if the rules don't change, this Titanic will sink faster than it already is..... and no, I don't have a clue how things should change... But I'm pretty sure biting and snipping at each other isn't the answer:) |
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No one will answer my question: Why would you buy a membership if you can go to pornhub.com? It's an honest question. And just saying that it's up to me or whoever to convince or 'trick' the person into thinking they 'need' a membership doesn't count. Consumers are far more savvy than that and it's dangerous to underestimate them. (btw: I keep using pornhub as an example but they're hardly alone) |
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Why would a surfer "wade through layers of links" to get at the porn? It's funny what a person with the will to get off will do. Certain surfers have always been willing to work their way through our labyrinth of ad spots during their search for whatever it is that works for them. Why do I PAY for television programming and still deal with commercials? Because that's how it is and they HAVE ME BY THE BALLS. (Hi ned.) A desire's need to be satiated overrides logic. Quote:
Many sponsors now offer embeddable Flash videos for use on your pages. One of my favorite sponsors, MovieRoom, just launched a great embeddable Flash movie player. If you put that movie player above the fold on your pages, a tube surfer will probably think that he/she has landed on a new tube site. It plays short clips, but it allows the surfer to view several clips, even change channels, without leaving your page. (It's available in multiple dimensions and you can choose which niche you want loaded first.) Optimizing for tube surfers/non-readers doesn't mean that you need to hand them a bunch of porn up front. Keep a good balance of SEO text and smartly named images. Give samples without giving away the farm. Providing more free porn than the next guy won't produce more sales. Tube sites are proof of that. Their ratios are reported to be absolute shit. But once you build Frankenstein, it's damn hard to put him down. |
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It's unlikely that my little site will ever generate anything in revenues but I'm sticking around for many reasons most of which are political in nature. But I'll spare you my political prattle for now....:) |
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The world population is about 6.7 billion right now.I can sit hear and ponder what would drive each and every person to buy something they don't need all day long or I can build a porn site that I KNOW will convert at least 1:1500 with surfers.I'm not hoping or preying that some stupid gullible idiot will stumble along my path and purchase a pass from me.This conversion is going to happen because a horny guy choose to buy a pass. |
Well I sure am glad to see the flurry of new posts...
Got lots a spin control to do now dont'cha :) The obvious point that you two geniuses fail to understand is that there is more then one opinion out there. There is more then one approach, to selling, to understanding and to living. You think you got 'em by the balls? Well good for you guys, you go right ahead and keep on thinking that while you count your declining revenue. Just the other day I saw a promo from a sponsor offering free full length, tube style clips. Up to 30 minutes a clip for free. These people are moving in a direction very far removed from your traditional and outdated free-site thing. They seem to have a different opinion and evidently a wildly different approach to selling porn. I would be glad to post a link to a sample of what they are offering, just let me know :) Don't worry it's not on that big bad boogie man porn-hub, that's been stealing all your sales as of late. As well you have to distinguish between teaching someone what a free site is (which is nice) and then using the opportunity to fill them with nonsense ideas (which is not nice). |
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got 'em by the balls..got 'em by the balls..got 'em by the balls... Did this phrase trigger off some chemical imbalance in your head or something ned02? If I would have known you were going to be so deeply effected by it,believe me,I would have used a different choice of words! Quote:
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I guess I said some thing you don't like. I know the truth can sometimes be hard to deal with. Anyone in this industry who thinks they have anything by the balls, is probably just holding on to their own scrotum and praying that their income don't drop again. :) You can call me as many names as you like, but it does not change the facts. The adult industry is in a constant state of change and putting on blinders and continuing to repeat what was once successful no longer works. The coming generation of potential customers are ten times as tech savvy and ten times as connected as the generation before them. Not only do these people know where the free porn is, many of them built, program and maintain the hundreds of web sites it's on. Stop kidding yourself and those you pretend to give advice to. Time to start thinking outside the static, old fashioned free site. |
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