I agree with paul and nobody is passing this onto the webmaster I did this thread as a warning not to buy lace content and only remarked that if he is issuing licences illegally then you should all be aware of it, I have no intentions of stiffing any webmasters but at the same time we should all stick together on a matter like this and yes I own paysites too so understand where you are coming from on that point too. Yes I made a bad business decision and fuck me for making it, but as I understood it David Lace had been around for a long time and sold plenty of content, but he sure aint a good guy and when you get stiffed and u will u might apprecate a bit of back up rather than a dont pass it on to me attitude, you see legaly its simple when you talk about licences to use someones copyrighted material a licence is granted by the personwho owns copyright or on his/her behalf by someone like Lace and if the contract between his/her and someone like lace is void then they have no legal right issuing a licence so it is void and f the shit hit the fan then anyone who bought a licence from lace would indeed be sitting there without a licence, just because you paid good money for it dont make it legal, but no one has said that the shit is goona hit the fan I just want a bit of help to stop this twat doing this again

By telling webmasters to charge back is making it their problem

that if he is issuing licences illegally then you should all be aware of it

Making webmasters aware of DL's not paying is a good thing but the licenses aren't illegal because DL didn't pay you. Once again if I buy a car from a BMW dealer and the BMW dealer doesn't pay BMW USA then BMW USA can't tell me that my purchase of the car is illegal. BMW USA kicks the dealers butt. The problem with our kind of business is that each country has different interpretations of the law and hopefully DL's license stipulates USA/State.


David Lace had been around for a long time and sold plenty of content, but he sure aint a good guy and when you get stiffed and u will u might apprecate a bit of back up rather than a dont pass it on to me attitude

I have been stiffed out of over $10k and I honoured every license to the webmasters that purchased the sets from the thief. So yes I will continue with my "don't pass it on attitude" forever.

I sent you a PM letting you know that I support you and if there is anything I can do to help let me know. Because I don't agree with you and Paul on an issue doesn't mean I don't back you up when DL's is stealing from you.

you see legaly its simple when you talk about licences to use someones copyrighted material a licence is granted by the personwho owns copyright or on his/her behalf by someone like Lace and if the contract between his/her and someone like lace is void then they have no legal right issuing a licence so it is void and f the shit hit the fan then anyone who bought a licence from lace would indeed be sitting there without a licence

See Wicked's post on "consumer protection"

NotThatKevin,

I really respect you and your point of view re webmasters, chargeback etc.

I hope you don't mind me quoting just a part of your post on another board where this is a popular theme these days.

http://newbiewebmasters.com/showthre...7817#post87817

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Did I say I like your site?
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Thank you digifan and I don't mind you posting this thread on other boards :)

Thanks Kevin I do appreciate your support, and I really dont have any intention of not honouring any of the licences that exist.

Legally I will take him to court if not for the money but for the principal of the matter but after hearing lots of rumours of his intentions as far as his company goes I need to make sure that I can make it stick legally otherwise its throwing good money after bad.

I just think that if shits like this can run around doing stuff like this, and judging from the comments on this thread this is not his first time,then they should be stopped and if that means us all getting together and taking the message to the whole adult community then yes I could do with a bit of help with that, and any way that anyone could help on that front would be appreciated

eyesore bri the only way I can think of helping other than posting on webmaster boards is if you setup a PayPal account or something and the producers like myself and Paul sent you a few $'s to help with the legal costs :)

Thanks Kevin
thats a really nice gesture and your help is much appreciated, maybe for starters if we hit all the boards he might take notice and if he doesnt then legal action is the way to go and all donations would be gratefully received but hopefully we wont need to go there. I will open up threads on all the boards but will need a bit of help on the best boards to start with etc so any ideas on where to post first or indeed any ideas on a plan of attack would be good as lots of heads are better than the one and if it stops this guy shitting on people then it will benefit us all

Eysesore Brian..
 

As I'm also in the Uk I tried to contact you on ICQ.. Yet you didn't reply to my question..

Are you normally that rude ??

GFY is the place to start, then AWI, Porn City, *******, Adult Insider, Xbiz and of course here which is already covered. not sure about the benefits of writing to his CC processor, but that might work as well.

Actually, if you sold goods to DL for a price, and did not get paid, then the contract of sale is potentially invalid, which may not give him the right to resell that content or relicense it.

I would suggest that you send him a registered letter to that effect: You have failed to fulfill the contract we agreed to for this content, therefore I am revoking your license for it. You must now contact anyone you sold this content to and inform them that they are no longer licensed for use on this content.

That might change things a bit.

Alex

Re: Eysesore Brian..
 

Hi Joe
sorry I havent received anything on ICQ please try again 306457382

Not a bad idea

Get a lawyer to send it.

I posted about this on gfy.. I'd put the link here for you but I think admin has banned the gfy url.. lol

my username is the same there as here :)

Lensman also does not like links to other boards, I find it best to put up the whole story.

yeah I can understand that.. and that's what I'd usually do, but the whole story is quite a few posts here.. so I just put up a link.. didn't mean to step on any toes.. sorry if I did

Not stepping on my toes the more coverage the better as far as I am concerned as long as it stops people like him stuffing genuine people like us