whats worse, Aaron Rogers going into the draft thinking he was a #1 pick or having to sit there for 3+ hours hearing why you are still sitting there?

That has to be tough... just sitting there watching money fly away. Altho, it could land him with a better team, unless he lasts into the 2nd round.

I'm happy as hell that Rogers fell that far... we might finally have a decent backup for Brett plus he can't play forever

Yeah, he couldn’t ask for a better teacher to learn from, but now can he handle being the man who might take over for Bret?

I don’t think I would want that job. Every Monday hearing “Bret would have made a TD, Bret would have done this, Bret would have…”

I just feel like getting beat up, so here's my prediction. Aaron Brooks will learn to not be retarded with a little protection from our #13 pick, Jammal Brown of Oklahoma.
Deuce McAllister will have a phenomenal year. Joe Horn will be outstanding and
Haslett will get a new contract because the Saints will sweep the South.
|couch|

And then you'll wake up |thumb
The Falcons will sweep the South

Ok, so it's wishful thinking. But I got my season tickets. Maybe I'm still pickled from last year's trips to the French Quarter after the games.

I don't put as much faith in Vick as everyone else does. We have beaten the Falcons before, and I hope we will again. The secret is containing his scramble.

Brooks is a helluva scrambler too if the line would give him somewhere to go.

Who Dat?

Wow...Denver... if anyone can make him a star it's Denver

Go figure - I think that'll be a waste of time.

How the mighty (mouth) has fallen

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2063459

Yet another athlete with million dollar talent and a 10 cent attitude. He would have been a serious Heisman candidate had he kept his mouth shut and just played his game, but.....

Would love to see him have to repay $6 million +

Wow, that sucks!

Ramster since you are so far up north, you may not know much of the antics of Winslow, he is the son of a Hall of Famer and when he was at Miami I picked him as the Heisman winner early, since he made not big plays, but huge plays.

Then he started talking to the press which began his downfall and after a game in which they won, he was all pissed off and running his mouth and said he is a solider and that it is a war zone out there and he’s for real and will kill anyone who gets in his way, this was a few weeks after Pat Tillman was killed.

He refused to apologize, and his plays went from big time to “get that guy off the field, he’s in the way” all the time while running his mouth and blaming everyone from the press to the coach to the qb, never once himself for the fumbles and drops.

Now at Cleveland he is doing the same shit, makes one or 2 good plays and then gets hurt and runs his mouth… This guy is what is wrong with sports, when they think they are bigger then the sport itself.

That whole thing was blown way out of proportion - how many time in the past have you heard football referred to as "war" & the field as a "battle field"

BRETT FAVRE IS A GOD :D

Thou shall have no Gods before me |buddy|

Torn
Seems like he is your typical sports player which is sad. :(

It's doubtful that he will lose the entire 6mil. The Browns are actually in a fairly sticky place, here. They can't play complete hardball, because there are future free agents to consider. If they take to hard of a line, they may make players reluctant to come here. They also don't want to come off as too soft.

Also, Winslow is still only 21 and will only be 22 when he can come back next year. He probably still has a long and maybe great career ahead of him. IF, he grows up.

Most likely they work on restructuring his contract. Load it with more incentives to offset any monies lost this year.

As for Winslow.... he's just a stupid kid, who I hope will now have the motivation to grow up a little. He really does have all the talent in the world. It would be a shame to see him waste it.

He'll grow up just like Randy Moss and J.R. Rider did.
At least we have KG around! And I'm beginning to really like Tory Hunter from the Twins. He bitched a little bit about his contract, but not to the media.

In response to Trev's comments -
I think you're going to see a lot more Incentives and less Upfront money in the future.
If players aren't smart enough to go to Lloyds of London and get a 10+ million dollar insurance policy against them getting injured, that's their problem.

Who was the pitcher from the Red Sox that got a 13 million bonus for them winning the series?
That's the kind of contracts there should be.
Very low pay during the season, but bonus' for each step in the playoffs.

Incentives can be tricky. He already lost around 9mil worth of 'easy' incentives from his record 40mil contract by breaking his leg on that onside kick at the end of his second game. So he never had a chance to reach any of them.

Incentives like that can be tough in the sports with salary caps. You would have to leave a lot of room in your cap, if half of your roster has significant bonus clauses in their contracts.

Oh man, I hope not. Not just because I'm a Browns fan, but his father was one of my favorite players back in the day. But, it seems to me like he needs to put his foot of Jrs ass, instead of 'protecting' him.

Incentive clauses are separated into two categories for computing salary cap. Those that are considered "likely to be met" get counted toward this years cap. Those that considered "unlikely to be met" are not. At the end of the season, unmet "likely", and met "unlikley", are tallied up for each team and a debit or credit is applied to the next season's cap. It can get a bit confusing, but it's not half as bad as the mess used by the NBA.

"Who was the pitcher from the Red Sox that got a 13 million bonus for them winning the series?
That's the kind of contracts there should be."

That was Curt Schillling and it won't happen again, it somehow got missed when the Commisioner approved it even though team based incentives are againt the CBA.

You could add incentives for Schilling if he won the MVP or something but not a team based one.

Ricky Williams will report to Dolphins training camp in July, according to his agent, Leigh Steinberg.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2064904

I don't think this soap opera is over :)

Had he taken the suspension last year he would not have to sit out the 4 games this year and would have had a year to travel/whatever and still be $8 million richer, but since he "retired" he still has 4 games to serve out and odds are the 'phins will hold that judgment over him all year or longer...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2079032

"The NFL announced on Tuesday that troubled Minnesota Vikings running back Onterrio Smith has been suspended for the entire 2005 season for violating the league's substance abuse policy"

"the NFL has said possession of the device alone isn't enough to violate league drug policies."

wonder if he took the test, I heard a rumor that he had refused a test after they found this device, I think refusing a test is reason for suspension

Yes it is, and if I'm not mistaken it's a automatic 1 year suspension for refusing, but I could be wrong.

If that is the case then no matter what he would get a year, so refuse it and then you can deny all day long you were stoned.

I read that the "failure to take test" occured before the Whizzinator incindent.

If and when he does return to the NFL, I do hope he realizes that he has a new nickname, |pokefun| "Whizz"

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=851350

John Madden will join NBC as a game analyst when the network begins televising its newly acquired Sunday night football package in 2006.

Oh joy. Killing Monday Night Football wasn't good enough, so now Sunday night football will be ruined by a shouting buffoon. :(

Puh Leas.........

Madden made MNF live again after those dark horrible years of Dennis Miller...

Best comb post Howard is Madden/Micheals.

I like Dennis Miller... in his day job. I agree he was crap on MNF. But Micheals (pushing Bush the whole time... which started when Miller brought politics to MNF, but didn't stop after he left, and only became one sided... ) and Madden were mute time.

Don't get me wrong. The Madden Oakland Raiders were one of my all time favorite teams. I even liked Madden when he first started announcing. But by now, he's just a caricature of himself. An annoying one, at that.

They should have stocked the booth with beer and let Don Meredith and Hank Williams Jr, announce the games..... now THAT would have been interesting. lol

I agree, Madden annoys the hell outta me. He thinks the show is in the booth, not on the field. I'd turn the sound from the TV off and tune to Jack Buck on CBS radio for MNF play-by-play.

Dickie V. is even worse doing college hoops. Someone needs to stuff a sweaty athletic sock in his mouth.

YEAAAAAAAAAAHH BAAAAAAAAABY |bigfuckin


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oh Toby, good luck in the CWS

Thanks, it should be a fun week.

Whatever the case, New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft is out one championship ring, and President Vladimir Putin of Russia has scooped up some very flashy bling. At a meeting of American business executives and Putin on Saturday in Russia, according to Russian news reports, Kraft showed his 4.94-carat, diamond-encrusted 2005 Super Bowl ring to the Russian president, who, after trying it on, put it in his pocket and left. It was unclear yesterday whether Kraft intended to give Putin the ring. It was just two weeks ago that he presented this year's championship baubles to Patriots players at his Brookline mansion. A Patriots spokesman said yesterday that Kraft was still traveling overseas and could not be reached for comment.
--The Boston Globe

I love people like this.

"During the stop, the officer said he was telling the driver his car insurance was expired when Coleman said, "I wish you would touch my (expletive) truck. Do you know who I am? I play for the Falcons," according to the police report.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

Hey, if playing in the NFL has no fringe benefits what's the point in playing?




Oh yeah, the money and women. :D

My blood runs purple....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2112630

Bad for the Pats, good for the Colts.

Go Horse!