Hiya RawAlex,
Not banners - bottom text link goes to SugarDVDs, seems to be the case on all their pages?

Yes, the text link does - but that is only because sugardvd doesn't control the html on the page (not like adbrite, which controls the content). Just like any other sponsor you have can't pull a banner even if they close your account.

Alex

Can we get http://search.boobdex.com/?lid=112449 shut down now? or?


they're using avn ads

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=17978

http://www.freeadultforum.com/

:(

My adbrite thread... zero replies and 56 views.
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...hlight=Adbrite

Usefulidiots is still there on page 2.. just an example
http://dir.adbrite.com/index.cgi?a=2...l_id=59;page=2

You have to click on adult.

I'm beginning to believe that fusker.lewww was just a cookie tossed our way with hopes of appeasing us. AVN/Adbrite has a long way to go. They really need to start digging in and doing what's right for their advertisers.

its just a matter of kicking through, finding the TOS, notifying them. I've done it with perhaps 15 different affiliate programs, using the form letter I wrote earlier, with one response so far. It is Easter weekend, so, I suspect Monday or Tuesday I'll be getting a few emails.

I don't understand how sites like fusker and boobdex manage to stay online. Whenever they violate someone's copyright, that person can send a DMCA notice to say.. fuskers ISP and that ISP's ISP. Even if they promptly remove the illegal content and file a counter-notice, the law requires that the ISP take them down for ten business days. It seems like they'd be down just about all the time since their whole business model is based on violating copyrights. Are they hosted in countries that don't care about copyright law?

A DCMA complaint needs to come from the copyright holder -- or an authorized agent. That itself becomes difficult. I can look at some content and say, hey, I know that is copyrighted, but, how do you find the copyright holder? You end up finding the original site that is being hotlinked, locate the gallery, guess whether that gallery is content that the webmaster paid for or is sponsor provided content.

But, you are right, it is the right way to do it -- and requires the vigilence of someone that has been hotlinked that can file that paperwork. I've been documenting it for a few clients so that they can file. It will be interesting.

I hope you are not right. I am going to once again ask Aly to put in an appearance and see what the scoop is. Adbrite is rife with sites that are WAY less than desirable as ad space, providing income sources for all sorts of VERY marginal stuff. I am NOT impressed.

I also hope that sugardvd figures out how to put up an "account died" message before their site, so that people know they are coming from a scumbag.

Alex

You know, I have waffled on this issue for years. On one hand, I agree, I think the site should just not accept the traffic.

But, I also think that it adds extra sting to the wounds of a terminated webmaster when they continue to accept that traffic and make money off of it.

Ask any webmaster that was terminated for fraud which they would hate more.... then lets do that. :)

CD, it's just hard for the rest of us to tell if something really has been done, of it we are all just getting fluffed along.

Sexsearch is the latest fusker sponsor. New thread coming up!

Alex

Alex
I received this from Adam of Sexsearch

Thanks for the heads up. I actually just heard of them yesterday because they were hotlinking to all of our hosted galleries. The ads were coming from a campaign w/ adbrite. I told the salesperson contact them to pull that campaign.

So, no need for the new thread coming up :)

Umm, Jim... interesting, considering that these things don't click through adbrite's system...

they go through:

http://best-adult-dating.com/?src=fuskerleww

Me thinks that sexsearch has more than one path back to our fusker buddies.

Alex

Oh, and if anyone from FTVcash is around, or knows someone over there, they are getting hit as well:

http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?lid=587518

thanks for the heads up

Yep, gotcha there, what I was worried about was the wording in Ami's post that stated hits from that one page would not be paid out on, rather than the entire domain, which has their text link on. Just wanted to clear up what their position is, as I felt it a bit ambiguous. :)

Maybe they will do a nice full page puff piece on them like they did with Teleterria.

Gonzo, I don't read AVN most times. For some reason, I don't get it anymore :)

Jim, you might want to drop a line back to adam at sexsearch... that link isn't part of the adbrite thing at all... the fusker dudes look to have signed up as an affiliate, and are re-routing the traffic through another domain to wash the refering URL.

Alex

I just did Alex :)

ahahahahahaha Jim ;-)))

yeah...unfortunately, i'm not in a position to make the banners/links disappear. we've asked the Affiliate several times to remove the link...he has not as of yet. that link should be blocked w/in the next 48 hours. blech.....grossgrossgross.

and again...if anyone EVER sees any sites like this using SugarDVD/DVDDollars as a sponsor...holla at a biaaaatch...i'll be more than happy to hurt 'em |satan|

Here's the url at the top of the page:
http://best-adult-dating.com/?src=fuskerleww

And the meta refresh goes to http://www.sexsearch.com/11127/
(which would blank the referrer)

Anyone from SexSearch around to handle this?

Hey Guys,

Just heard about this thread. We do business with adbrite/avnonline. We did have links on fusker and they are now pulled.
I have informed adbrite that they need to remove fusker from their list of publishers before we will do further buisness with them. The last time I informed them that one of their publishers was shady they removed them quickly.
I am checking to see if fusker does indeed have an affilaite account with us. If they do, it will be cut.
We will not do buisness with fusker or anybody doing biz with them.

Raja

Just an update. Adbrite/AVNads no longer does business with Fusker. They are a stand up company and like me once they found out how these guys generate traffic they cut them.

Raja

Nice work Raja. The fine people from AVN posted that they were done with fusker :)

Very cool SexSearch and AVN for dealing with this so quickly. |thumb

http://search.boobdex.com/

And yet Boobdex is still earning cash for running the fusker script, even though I posted about them last week.

AVN? What gives?

Get these fuckers, willya?

Boogie,

Take that letter I posted further up, send it to the contact person at AVNAds and cc the guy at pud.com.

Just have to keep pounding.

usefulidiot.com is still running adbrite codes as well :(

yeah, I could do that.

But ultimately Its my personal opinion they should be proactive in watching their accounts.

I mean if they're not capable of discovering this kind of thing and policing it, are they capable of policing CP?

Ah hell i guess i'll help em out by sending the letter a few times.

Boogie, one thing I learned long ago in this business: Until people complain, most programs don't give a rats ass WHERE the traffic comes from. I am sure many of them woudl take toolbar redirections of disney and nickleodeon traffic provided they could find some fool to buy it.

AVNads and Adbrite are doing what is traditionally done: When someone bitches, take action. Until then, DO NOTHING. I don't think it is willful blindness, just a "don't care" attitude until someone turns up the heat - and even then, adbrite's original response was classic "it's not our problem, buy a bigger door lock" stuff.

I am hoping that other programs see the level of frustration that exists with these fusker sites, and move to block them within their T&C and in reality.

Alex

Boobdex and UsefulIdiot emails sent.

Okay, Adbrite, people! WAKE UP!

http://www.ulita.com/Atwood/logged.php

When you go to fusker and click to visit a "fusker" site, they have a toolbar ont he top of the page. Click "funny" and you get this page.

More adbrite.

Most of the fusker sites out there are running adbrite / AVNads.

Can you please take care of this already?

LOL, it was posted here before that all new fuskers come with adbrite by default when they are purchased.
That tells me adbrite and fusker signed a very hefty deal together.
That tells me adbrite was full of shit when they came in here saying they are against fuskers and be diligent in cleaning fuskers out of adbrite, pretty difficult when they are in a partnership with them.
It also tells me AVN was full of shit when they come in here and say they are against fuskers with all the evidence presented they are still in partnership with the devil.

ONLY way to stop it is to Boycott AVN and any one else that has anything to do with Fuskers until they truly stop dealing with them in partnerships.

If you do not Boycott AVN and the such you also enter into the partnership with the devils, and have absolutely no right to bitch about fuskers...for you ARE SUPPORTING THEM

I'm starting to think you're right.

The smell of BULLSHIT around these companies is getting way too strong for me to stomach. Fuck you Fusker and any companies that allow this thievery to continue. You're either in bed with thieves or simply turning a blind eye. Either way, it makes me fucking sick.

Avn, fusker, Philip Kaplan, Pud, Aly, fuckedcompany.com, adbrite.com - WTF??

just a bit more adbrite/avn supported theft..

http://www.suziexxx.com/index.php

DD