first off let me say I respect your responses, you don't seem to be a one hit wonder that stopped by to talk shit and then run away, but your first post rubbed a few of us the wrong way.... but Jim is right on this issue and that is a fact whether you like it or not, if all the sheep followed the leader we would all be living under a nazi regime right now... it is a personal choice to try to comply or not with the regulations and if nobody is willing to break them then they will go down as "right" when we all know they are not... Jim is not trying to be a hero, he is voicing his opinion on something he and a lot of us believe in strongly and he seems to be willing to put his ass on the line which is more than a lot of people can say... it is comments like yours that make me think that the adult webmaster community will never come together as an industry and hence will be torn apart the way things seem to be going... on a side note watch that grammar dammit :D

well i agree with that, but since i have alot of bought content i was already thinking to switch the hardcore content of those sponsors to my own bought hardcore content which i have somewhere around, and yes i am dropping alot of sponsors too still it give me enough work to fix

I assume that Jim didn't see the Penn & Teller: Bullshit episode on Ghandi? |couch|

Moron |pokefun| |Jim

I am curious...Is GreenguyandJim also on your losers list?

I understand completely that people are entitled to have their opinions, however it was the fact that Jim chose to say “And I will keep saying this...If a law is unjust, it is our duty to break it.” That's what prompted my knee jerk response, breaking laws isn't the way to change them.

As for the adult industry coming together, I see this as a pipe dream that many have been chasing for along time. It won’t ever happen because of the fact that everyone in this business is busy looking after business and if a few fall by the wayside then some will see this as a plus...

No not at all Jim

Tell us all a little more about yourself. You have a yahoo email address. Your homepage was another board. I know some Trevs and I don't think I know you.

What sites do you run?

You are obviously someone with an Axe to grind with me. Somehow, you feel I have wronged you in the past. Nobody comes to a board and makes there first post calling the owner a moron. There is another agenda here and I would just like to know what that is. Maybe we can deal with it Gentlemen.

Jim, I somehow missed this post.. but glad I caught it now. You rock dude. Hats off to you for speaking out. Fuck 2257!

Guys, I am just saying calm down and don't jump to conclusions. I am not asking anyone to follow me in breaking an unjust law. I have just been through all of this before and nothing ever happens.

I needed to speak out because I saw everyone I know following the fear mongers like lemmings to the cliff. If you are really afraid of what might happen, talk to a 1st amendment lawyer and get their advice. Don't use one of the common lawyers you see online. Find one in your own town or city. Don't take advice from someone that has something to gain from your fear.

With that said, I will probably finish these 3 domains tomorrow.
http://www.javes.com
http://www.secrethideaway.com

I use my yahoo email address for every board I register on, it's nothing personal but I find it helps to stem the amount of spam I receive to my everyday email addresses.

I chose to use the other board as my homepage in an attempt to show that I was a Trev that you may have seen over there.

I run various free sites, I've also dabbled in paysites. I'm mainly concentrating on some of my more adult mainstream sites at the moment.

There is no agenda here Jim and you’ve never wronged me. In fact I made some good money pushing Ultracash back in the day (didn’t make as much with Jims money but I still made some)

I just read your posts and I had a knee jerk reaction, for which I’ve apologised. I was just very surprised to see you post the statements you did.

Oh Trev, say it ain't so.
I had respect for you over there.

I'm affraid it is Jim.

Like I've said, it was a once in a lifetime knee jerk reaction. I awoke this morning and went "doh!"

There are a million ways I could have expressed myself better but I chose the more foolish way.

But now to think that non-compliance of an unjust law is moronic, is just (I can't think of a better word) moronic.

America was formed by people stepping up and saying NO to unjust laws. What would life be like anyplace where people just followed the government's rules blindly? Where would African Americans be if Rosa Parks didn't say no to riding in the back of the bus? There are just too many American heroes to mention that broke unjust laws.

I am no Rosa Parks and I don't even claim to be the only one ready to break this law. But, please do a little research on non-compliance before you make a post like you did. That is the only way anything good gets done.

OK Trev...Lets just forget that post then.
By the way, I may be a lot of things. But I am not a moron :)

I agree with you Jim... and I am from Canada. I personally have had three friends in the last month quit the biz over this. They went as far as handing me over all of their domains and switching over their affiliate accounts into my name. It is crazy the level of fear this 2257 has brought about. Many honest, hard working people are just giving up. What will this do for the US economy, world economy for that matter... this cannot be a good thing no matter how you look at it. The gov't doesnt want porn easily accessible, then teach your kids what you believe, install all the anti porn software you can get a hold off, do whatever you can to protect them - we are not interested in them and they do not take out their credit cards to make us money (ok some do but that just means you not only have to protect your kids but where you leave your credit cards haha) The gov't wants to scare models into getting into this business, there are other ways of doing it... anyway this message is getting too fucking long. Its just fucking sad to see everyone so scared and so many people giving up.

I’ll more than happily forget about it Jim :)

|lovers|

Cocksucker.

Would you be referring to me?

Cocksucker.

You put forward a good argument using only the most valid of points. I’m still reeling from the way you totally dominate me with your mental prowess.

I was mistaken with Jim, but you have made my moron list you cockholster.

Gee, I'm hurt, you knee-jerking insultive prick-faced cunt. You sashayed in here with the sole intent of insulting Jim and all of us who chose to agree with his disorderly stance on 2257. How else should I feel about you, but to think of you as nothing more than a hairless fuck-monkey? Why not just shut your trap, crawl back into your hole, and enjoy the unfair advantage that 2257 gives you over we American webmasters?

Your very first post here was an insult to me and my brethren, so don't expect soft caresses and deep tongue kisses anytime soon.

By the way, your shoe is untied.

Look son, I’m not after anything from GG&J or you. I made a post without thinking it through and I’ve apologised for that, if Jim (who the post was aimed at) accepts that apology then I’ll be thankful.

However I couldn’t give two shits about you, your view on me or even your opinion on if I should post on GG&J or not. For all I know you might be the biggest player here and it still bothers me none as you’re just a fucktard in my opinion!

Son? Can I call you dad?

...and yet you continue to reply. Looks to me as if you're very concerned about my opinion of you and your skankish ways. Perhaps your parents didn't show you enough affection as a child and now you're trapped in a wicked cycle of self-loathing while searching for affirmation from others. Get help from someone who cares. I don't have time to coddle you.

Got a little something on your chin.

If it floats your boat then by all means do.

(Sorry to interrupt, UW and Trev....just a second)

Jim, looked at your sites....you're off to a wonderful start!

(okay, resume pissing....:) )

I wish the AG would explain why, under the seven moons of the dark star, he expects the people who do CP will put up their names, addresses, keep nice business hours, and detailed records of themselfs breaking the law!

"To hear many religious people talk, one would think God created the torso,
head, legs and arms, but the devil slapped on the genitals" -- Don Schrader

Jesus christ I cant believe I just read this entire 6 page thing. Someone prey for me :)

I will say that jim has a right to his opinion and can certainly stick to those guns, Jim is making what he feels is the best decision for him, as I think everyone should make the best decision for themselves. Regardless in the end we all have the same common goal, or prayer. That this thing will be crushed, without too much harm to the industry and the hard working people that put their time in everyday.

Sweet I made it go to page 7 :)

lol, no pissing here :)

Hey Jim, since you mentioned Rosa Parks.

Noticed that AOL is having a contest for The Greatest American, and |bow| Rosa Parks and |pokefun| Bush are both in it!
http://tv.channel.aol.com/greatestamerican

Everybody should run over and vote quick! |mml|

Can you image having the likes of Bush listed with George Washington, Abe Lincoln, FDR, MT King, JFK, and others of that calibre? |dizzy|

Huh? I would never interrupt UW when he's on a roll. I just sit back and watch. |thumb

Useless is a good friend of mine and of this board. He, at times, does become ruthless :) But he is a great guy to have around.

Right now, he is just doing what friends do for eachother. The apology is fine for me but, others have told me that it isn't ok for them.

On a side note that useless is one mean SOB I think he killed 3 or 4 neighbors that he didnt like and jim ran them over with his harley to make sure they were good and dead and then jim built a motorcycle barn over them..

I thought that kind of shit only happend in Mississippi.

Come on Chop. You know how those tattoo wearing, helmet scoflaw, bikers are. |viking|