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stuveltje 2006-06-27 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Vivaldi
ouch ... don't go on that money conspiracy thing please. I admit, mistakes have being made (I mean about the refs) but come on ...take European championship last year! Greece won!?!? Was that fixed!?
Don't get me wrong but I think the quality of the ref depends on good matches they were in ... now I really can't explain Ivanov and Germ Pol (the one that gave 3 yellows to same guy at Croatia-ausies game) they should be experienced and top European refs but then again they did what they did ....
... as for Italians - like every damn world cup they always seams to slip through ... but if nothing else they'll stop with Germany or Argentina ... hopefully

... and I'm happy my Ukrainian brothers passed my birth country Swiss (although it was pretty boring match and ukra. played like pussies)!!!

... and I can't wait today's Brazil-Ghana and Spain-France .. two matches that should be all about football ... hopefully, although they have by far the best team, Brazil will lose (they have become just too cocky for my taste) and although they didn't show much I'll cheer for France!

Brazil will win, i am sure the ref takes care of that:D |boobies| |boobies| game starting now

Vivaldi 2006-06-27 11:02 AM

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Brazil will win, i am sure the ref takes care of that game starting now
You know ... for the sake of football (and my betting ticket) I hope You're wrong :D

stuveltje 2006-06-27 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vivaldi
You know ... for the sake of football (and my betting ticket) I hope You're wrong :D

i believe that i just saw renaldo making a goal:D

stuveltje 2006-06-27 12:56 PM

ahummm Vivaldi....Brazil-ghana 3-0 , brazill played like shit but with a little help of the ref......they managed it|couch| btw i wonder what happend with the coach of ghana he didnt came back on the field after the break|huh

stuveltje 2006-06-27 02:51 PM

up to the next game ...spain! in about 10 minutes they have to show what they got.......i wont say what happens, the ref will decide who is gonna win.....did i say that? naaaaa i didnt say that:D

Thomas 2006-06-27 03:00 PM

Yes, great game ahead I hope!

GO SPAIN!

/Thomas

stuveltje 2006-06-27 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas
Yes, great game ahead I hope!

GO SPAIN!

/Thomas

yep spain has made one goal but its ment to be that france will go thru, check the ref what did he already do the last minutes against spain:)

SirMoby 2006-06-27 03:45 PM

I thought Ghana played but I only about 40 minutes of the first half. The scores makes it look like a blow out but it really didn't seem that way. The tiny nation of Ghana has every right to be proud.

stuveltje 2006-06-27 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SirMoby
I thought Ghana played but I only about 40 minutes of the first half. The scores makes it look like a blow out but it really didn't seem that way. The tiny nation of Ghana has every right to be proud.

ghana did a good job, the yellow cards they got and the red one, not all where deserved, just like the second goal of brazill, the ref should have declined that goal but this WC is already made:) and the ame shit will be with spain and franche, its ment to be franche will win, well if you are following this game now, you see that franche gets all the chanse for it, bad bad ref again

stuveltje 2006-06-27 04:22 PM

the only chanse to win for spain will be to get the 1-1 going and let it end on penalties, thats a thing the ref cant controle, but if you are following the game you will see the frenche have the ref at their side.

pornrex 2006-06-27 04:42 PM

Ghana got fleeced! The two first goals Brazil scored were both offside, I don't care what anyone says.

CrazySy 2006-06-27 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stuveltje
btw i wonder what happend with the coach of ghana he didnt came back on the field after the break|huh

He was red carded due to argument regarding no offside call after the second goal which he had a valid point, That was clearly offside.



pornrex, the second goal was offside but the first goal was a fantastic goal and Ronaldo was one step behind and clearly onside :D

pornrex 2006-06-27 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazySy
pornrex, the second goal was offside but the first goal was a fantastic goal and Ronaldo was one step behind and clearly onside :D

Sy,
They keep showing the replay and my laser corrected vision disputes your claim, 100%. But who cares really? Its looking alot like FIFA wants Germany and Brazil to square off in the final, if not Germany and Italy.

I just hope that Argentina has something to say about that but honestly, I see the refereeing being TOTALLY one sided come game time in favor of the 'Chermanz.' WC refereeing is quite possibly the worst refereeing in the world of ANY competitive sport team sport, including figure skating pairs!!

What was up with that bogus call in the box on the Australian player? There was NO foul there but because Australia is only a country of 20 million and Italy has 60-70 million people, it would have been a MASSIVE embarassment for Italy to get the 'boot.':D And for that matter, why did Materrazzi get Red carded? That Spanish ref sucked midget balls. I hope Italy realizes that they've ran out of lucky calls and they had better bring their A+ game here on in!

My take is that this was ALL planned to take the heat off the bullshit call that HAD to be made to FORCE the Azzurri into the round of eight. Garbage, I tell you. Pure TRASH!! I was expecting MUCH better from FIFA. FIFA should change their name to FOOFOO.

I really would like to see Argentina square off against Brazil or France or whomever. The Argentines were my pick from day 1 and the only real threat they've had was from that excitingly close match from the upstart mexican team. Meanwhile, Germany was VERY lucky to face off against a not-so-confident Sweden team which is really too bad because the Tre Kroner side actually had a chance to win that game, they just mucked up too much to warrant a deserving win.

However it turns out, I will be STILL watching from here on in.

Vivaldi 2006-06-28 04:14 AM

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Ghana did a good job, the yellow cards they got and the red one, not all where deserved, just like the second goal of brazil, the ref should have declined that goal but this WC is already made and the ame shit will be with spain and franche, its ment to be franche will win, well if you are following this game now, you see that franche gets all the chanse for it, bad bad ref again
stuveltje ... you're right bad calls but then again ref didn't score the other two goals. Besides, it as obvious Ghana was scared of Brazil ... just when they passed ball to the 16m cap Ghana players didn't know what next to do with it. I guess lack of experience did it so it was a routine win and bad ticket for me :-(

as for French .. don't get me wrong Spaniards but are a local village team with no balls (except Puyol). Every important game they have played so far they screwed. They do have few great players but they are not the team for great deeds!!! On the other side French, although they haven't showed anything on this WC, are a good team but only when Viera and Zidane play well... and they did yesterday (too bad they don't have one more player in the middle like those two what a team that would be!!!)

Vivaldi 2006-06-28 04:16 AM

and as for refs ... the only game so far, mildly destroyed by refs, is Holland-Portugal. Not that Holland would win (sorry stuveltje) but the games was unnecessary sliced and wasn't fluid enough to enjoy it (although I did enjoy the fights)!!! None of the other ref mistakes did too much damage to the game ... now I didn't watch Italy's game so can't comment on that :-) everything else was ... well ok :-)
I think that these teams that have gone through: Ger, Arg, Eng, Por, Braz, France, Ukr, Ita deserve it ... well except Italy but then again I'm saying this every Championship and they always seam to be in the top so I guess they deserve it (in a way) |huh

stuveltje 2006-06-28 04:22 AM

na i agree with pornrex btw the refs of all the games are a big talk here on telly, but the games are played so nothing what people can do about, now we have to wait till fryday for the next games:D

Vivaldi 2006-06-30 04:56 AM

ok ... so it's friday, any predictions!?
I'm for Argentina ...

stuveltje 2006-06-30 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Vivaldi
ok ... so it's friday, any predictions!?
I'm for Argentina ...

ah football fryday, well if i can make it to watch the games and wont lay knock out in my bed then i go for...Germany and italie those will win|boobies| |boobies|

SirMoby 2006-06-30 05:30 AM

Argentina is the better team but they had a more difficult time last game so may not be as fit. I also think the home country has a big advantage so I'm thinking Germany.

I will be cheering for Ukraine even though I think Italy will win. It will be interesting to see if Italy can win a match where people aren't talking about the refs.

SirMoby 2006-06-30 01:50 PM

Germany gets the equalizer with 10 minutes left and then makes all the penalty kicks to move on. :)

dareutwo 2006-06-30 01:54 PM

I have never seen any game where the offense pressed the entire game, including the entire 30 mins of overtime and lost.

As as curious soccer fan, I'm not impressed.

stuveltje 2006-06-30 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SirMoby
Germany gets the equalizer with 10 minutes left and then makes all the penalty kicks to move on. :)

yep damn i should have bett on that game but i didnt:D

itto 2006-06-30 02:17 PM

ohhlord.. i told you we'll win.. ;) but actually.. after watching the game i'm 3 years older now! ..and plenty of new grey hair.

dirtyjumbo 2006-06-30 02:22 PM

Looks like FIFA will get the Germany-Brazil final they wanted, I was more hoping for a Argentina-Brazil final

stuveltje 2006-06-30 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by itto
ohhlord.. i told you we'll win.. ;) but actually.. after watching the game i'm 3 years older now! ..and plenty of new grey hair.

lol i think the germans have a real good chanse to win....i have a huge view about this wc but i will keep it for myself, i think germany will end in the final with or brazil or italie

dirtyjumbo 2006-06-30 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stuveltje
lol i think the germans have a real good chanse to win....i have a huge view about this wc but i will keep it for myself, i think germany will end in the final with or brazil or italie

Hmm, a final between Germany and Italy is impossible, if Italy wins they will meet Germany in the semi-final ;)

stuveltje 2006-06-30 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtyjumbo
Hmm, a final between Germany and Italy is impossible, if Italy wins they will meet Germany in the semi-final ;)

|shocking| oh nice lol i didnt check on that one, but i have an excuse.....hmmmm i am old and sick:D oke then it will germany brazill|boobies|

stuveltje 2006-06-30 05:00 PM

ahumahummmmmm can i change? maybe it will be italie and brazill in final after i have seen this game of italie this eve.............

SirMoby 2006-06-30 11:00 PM

I don't think FIFA had a say in Germany vs. Argentina. Germany did NOT seem to be getting special treatment from the refs. That's been saved for Italy this time around. You know the country league that has players, coaches and refs on trial Monday for game fixing.

I don't think any one can stop Brazil although France and Brazil is a rematch of the 1998 WC when France won. England has not played well and Portugal is all beat up so I think Brazil will go to the finals.

Then we'll have a rematch of last WC but this time with Germany at home.

I cheered for Brazil the last 2 cups and now they're the champs I just feel I'd like someone else to win. No offense to anyone as I love Brazil but I'll be cheering for Germany. Unless it's Italy vs. Brazil and then I'll be cheering for Brazil.

stuveltje 2006-07-01 04:05 AM

this midday england -portugal, i expect portugal to win, for england it will be a bit extra harder becuse of the weather its getting realy hot, english people are not used to those high temp ( althought some players play in hot countries) for brazil a nice temp will come up for them, so they only should getting better

Vivaldi 2006-07-01 05:13 AM

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I have never seen any game where the offense pressed the entire game, including the entire 30 mins of overtime and lost.
could not agree more ... too bad that better of those two lost ... but that's football. And since majority here dislike Italy (who knows why!?!?) I got to say they played very good against Ukraine hell this may be the first real game they have played on WC

stuveltje ... give me Your predictions for today's games I'm gonna bet and it seams that You get it better that I do :D

pornrex 2006-07-01 09:42 AM

Vivaldi....Brazil wins today over France. And because Portugal is decimated due to that horribly officiated last game, they will lose to England. It will be England vs. Brazil and of course Italy vs. Germany. Which means 'ciao' to Italy so that Germany could square off against Brazil (sorry England, Brazil is just on a whole different level) which means that then the officiating will get the call from the MAFIFA that a European team cannot lose on European soil which ultimately means that the Naz er, I mean the Germans will win the WC.

stuveltje 2006-07-01 10:47 AM

in 1998 france and brazill ended both in the final, france won the WC with 3-0, so it an be possible that the frenche can win the game of brazill, it all depends if those realy lazy brazill guys are going to move their ass today, because the last game they didnt realy move( or was that the game before that one:D) it was like they thought: oke we know we gonne win this, we just need to move when its the right time, first goal was a right one but the second one ...well was an stupid decision of the ref. The frenche are going to fight for it i am sure. The temp is great for the brazillian guys i think its about F80 there now in germany.still i cant say who will win i think france does make a good chanse it depends on the moods of both teams...do they have a lucky day today:D

Vivaldi 2006-07-01 10:57 AM

wow ... I'm expecting good games that's all :-)
just wanted to make a bet to make my watching more excited ... I'm all for Brazil now, although i don't like that fact much :D

stuveltje 2006-07-01 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Vivaldi
wow ... I'm expecting good games that's all :-)
just wanted to make a bet to make my watching more excited ... I'm all for Brazil now, although i don't like that fact much :D

lol oke then me go for the frenche|boobies| |boobies| with the game this eve then :D ahummm for the nglish game i will say england yep

Ivana Fukalot 2006-07-01 12:54 PM

Ah, what a pity! Ukraine lose. Now i dont believe in miracle. |twinkle :(

Soul/Rebel 2006-07-01 01:15 PM

i never liked Ronaldo,till I saw the negative comments about him on newspapers lol

dirtyjumbo 2006-07-01 02:14 PM

Wow, Portugal in the semi-finals!

Can't wait for Brazil-France, less than 1 hour left |bananna|

SirMoby 2006-07-01 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivana Fukalot
Ah, what a pity! Ukraine lose. Now i dont believe in miracle. |twinkle :(

At least Ukraine tested the Italian defense which has been the toughest in the WC so far. Ukraine should go home proud as they played well.

SirMoby 2006-07-01 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtyjumbo
Wow, Portugal in the semi-finals!

Can't wait for Brazil-France, less than 1 hour left |bananna|

That was a brutal game. While Rooney should have shut the fuck up a red card was not needed unless the ref warned him that he'd get one if he kept freaking out and I think that's what may have happened.


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