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Barron 2005-05-26 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Toby

every photo set (or portion thereof) you host on your own site.

I'm seeing the phrase photo set used alot. Also, the word server is used alot by people that are posting.


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...otherwise manages the
sexually explicit content of a computer site or service that contains a
visual depiction
The regs are very specific about the word "depiction", that is singular, not plural.

The regs say "computer site or service". It makes no distinction between a "server" where its "located" or "who" the server belongs to or "who the domain belongs to".

If you have an image of sexually explicit conduct and crop the image to just the girls face, you now have a "new depiction". If you create a banner from a hardcore image, your banner is now a "new depiction".

But, that is just my opinion, contact a lawyer for his/her opinion.


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EDIT:

crop the image to just the girls face, you now have a "new depiction" with nothing sexually explicit in the depiction.


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Prawnie 2005-05-26 08:25 PM
Thankyou Alex for your time in this matter. It certainly has helped me out. Time is running out as we all know. Objections will hopefully be raised, however as I live in the UK, I am ignorant as to how the process in the US courts would develop.
I have scanned through the thread, my question is this?

Being the secondry producer living offshore of the US, with my business also offshore, how likely is it that the guys wearing dark glasses come knocking on my door? Being that my content is hosted on a US server, I use a US billing company and practically every sponser and primary producer is gonna laugh at me when I ask for personal details of the models we use on our sites?
Also, if the problem is big enough and the trend for people to "unload" their biz to offshore escalates, does the US judicial system and government have the powers to "persuade" foreign courts and organisations to track down "offenders" for their own gain? More to the point, would they bother going to such lengths to track down a foriegner who is breaking a US law?

I apologise if this has been asked before but I have just printed off the ruling and despite reading it many times, all I can make of it is it makes a really cool paper hat :)

emmanuelle 2005-05-26 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Prawnie

Also, if the problem is big enough and the trend for people to "unload" their biz to offshore escalates, does the US judicial system and government have the powers to "persuade" foreign courts and organisations to track down "offenders" for their own gain? More to the point, would they bother going to such lengths to track down a foriegner who is breaking a US law?


I can't see you being extradited for a clerical error

Toby 2005-05-26 08:54 PM
Prawnie, an article I was reading last night pointed out that the DOJ doesn't have enough resources to adequately investigate the CP cases it has now. I don't forsee many "inspections" taking place here in the US, let alone overseas. I do think there will be some inpections, arrests, and prosecutions. I think they will be few but very noisy.

The tragic part is that those who do get prosecuted, even if found innocent will have already lost everything long before being exhonorated.

LindaMight 2005-05-26 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by WolfTexas
Very good point. Agreed! This is going to shake up the industry and possibly put some legitimacy on some of the business. It will kill our site, because we jumped in at the wrong time and have no capital built up to support the process, but for those of our friends that have been in business a while with the resources to follow through, it will be an astounding benefit.

What saddens me is that there won't be the outlet for people with sexual desires to exhibit. Business is fine, but self expression is now hindered. Oh well. Such is life in modern Christian dominated America.

I guess our class system is going to continue to be built along religious lines, and politics is the avenue. So much for separation of church and State.

Those that continue in the industry, be warned. Our religiously based extreme rightwing government is fast approaching a time when webmasters, models and affiliated parties will all be prosecuted as sex offenders. Then all the overly inclusive generalities mentioned here and everywhere else about child molesters and pedophiles will incorporate not just those with definitive problems in making good judgements (true molesters and pedophiles), but also legitimate (albeit illegitimate in the eyes of Jonny Gov) business people who will have to register as sex offenders and suffer the lifelong abuse of not being able to provide for themselves or families because our beloved government has been put in place to legislate morality at the expense of personal safety and decency.

As a further explanation, please remember, that not all sex offenders are currently people that abduct or molest children, but sometimes people that are in a consentual relationship (even some without proven sexual activity) where someone got mad and decided to prosecute for rape or a similar, perhaps even legitimate, story, that get lumped in and ostricized as being dangers to society.

We, too, as industry "personnel" could be lumped into this group if our current administration and legislative bodies continue down this road. The ACLU, et al, haven't aided in stemming this tide as much as was once the case. And this is due in large part to the DOJ or similar bodies "shoring up" policies that will benefit their theocratic agendas in the name of either getting re-elected or proving their "worth" to task of their job.

Protestant America is slowly reverting to the age of the Crusades, and we're looking down the barrel of the gun. Be careful how you proceed!

For those of you with nothing to lose, and everything to gain, I applaud your decision to perservere, but if the revisions to 2257 don't get derailed, we won't be part of the new success. We're too small, and too remote to avoid the disaster of being prosecuted for the many things that this Pandora's box is bound to impose on the industry. We won't risk it.

In this case, I am not bitter, but it is growing more and more apparent, that in the "modern America" the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Wolf.

PS...in most states, we've all done something that can be construed as a sex offense. Have you ever leared at anyone without their knowledge (underage or not) and thought illicit or lacivious thoughts? That's a sex offense in at least half the states of our country. Beware the thought police!
I don't like this grim forecast. In fact, it is the only message that I have read on five different message boards and pages and pages of messages that has scared me. If all of the above holds true, we should all close down NOW and never look back.

Linda

Barron 2005-05-26 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Toby
Prawnie, an article I was reading last night pointed out that the DOJ doesn't have enough resources to adequately investigate the CP cases it has now. I don't forsee many "inspections" taking place here in the US, let alone overseas. I do think there will be some inpections, arrests, and prosecutions. I think they will be few but very noisy.

The tragic part is that those who do get prosecuted, even if found innocent will have already lost everything long before being exhonorated.

I agree with this. With the lack of manpower, I envision the inspectors not caring about photographs they see where the models are obvisously way over 18. And then the only ones they will seek age docs on are the ones that really are "ify" as to rather or not they are 18.

I would really like to think that the DOJ are really using this as a tool to increase the jail time for the people who deal in cp. "We no longer have to prove you are dealing in cp. Now YOU have to prove your model IS 18. Let me see the docs!"

Speaking of that, does anybody know anybody that has acctually been inspected for age documentation? I mean, something more than just casual, "While we're here, lets see them". I'm talking about a visit for the sole purpose of inspection of docs.

Does anyone know anyone thats happened to? Aside from Traci Lords.


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LindaMight 2005-05-26 09:14 PM
On a side note, aside from being scared of Wolf's prediction....

We have done it, we have rented office space, signed the lease today, effective June 1st, and am going to actually set up an office that will house not only one of our computers, but it will also house our documents that pertain to the identity of George and myself linked to all of the images and videos on my website. My other two friends that show up in just a few updates....well I am going to just ditch the pictures and the video. It didn't add a whole lot to the site. And even though I have their documentation, I figure the less I have to deal with the better. George and I are linking our own pictures to every single URL on our website and every mpeg and banner. And they will all be cross-referenced with our real names, stage names, and our company name. PLUS we have an appointment with our corporate attorney who took care of our incorporation six years ago to go over any details that we've missed.

My big question is this...... we do not show our faces in hardly any images or videos....nor did we show faces of the two friends of our. So, if we do not show faces, what good is the real ID anyway? How would anyone know it is me, or George, or either of our friends. ?? And would that not be the case with each and every porn picture where the face is obscure?

Linda |banghead| |banghead| |banghead|

Prawnie 2005-05-26 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Toby
Prawnie, an article I was reading last night pointed out that the DOJ doesn't have enough resources to adequately investigate the CP cases it has now. I don't forsee many "inspections" taking place here in the US, let alone overseas. I do think there will be some inpections, arrests, and prosecutions. I think they will be few but very noisy.

The tragic part is that those who do get prosecuted, even if found innocent will have already lost everything long before being exhonorated.
Thanks Toby and Barron. I read also about the lack of resources available. That last statement you wrote really hits home. :(

Toby 2005-05-26 09:24 PM
Barron, To my knowledge there's never been so much as a knock on someone's door.

One thing that does need to be kept in mind, these new regulations allow the DOJ to appoint local law enforcement to perform the inspection. I'm not sure that will happen much since the Fed's tend to be pretty territorial and don't care much for sharing the spotlight.

Barron 2005-05-26 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LindaMight
On a side note, aside from being scared of Wolf's prediction....

My big question is this...... we do not show our faces in hardly any images or videos....nor did we show faces of the two friends of our. So, if we do not show faces, what good is the real ID anyway? How would anyone know it is me, or George, or either of our friends. ?? And would that not be the case with each and every porn picture where the face is obscure?

Linda |banghead| |banghead| |banghead|
Put yourself in the position of the inspector. You are looking at a picture of a guy and girl that is having sexual intercourse. The woman has breasts and pubic hair. Ok, the girl has reached puberty. The guy has pubic hair. Ok, he has reached puberty. But, since I cant see the faces, are the models 16 or 26?

Without a clear indication that the models are over 18, or at least an indication that a reasonable person could tell by looking at the faces, I would be looking for the 2257 info, wouldnt you?


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HornyHeather 2005-05-26 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LindaMight
I don't like this grim forecast. In fact, it is the only message that I have read on five different message boards and pages and pages of messages that has scared me. If all of the above holds true, we should all close down NOW and never look back.

Linda
I second that..Its scary, its risky and I do believe this is to get us all off the net...They will win, we will go quietly into the night and be good little citizens.....

Strike 1 - Porn...what is next?

And screw there damned christianity, The way I look at it, My religion accepts nudity, we were born nude..Nude is beautiful, we just cover it up because they say we have to.

|bow| Uncle Sam - NOT

Wenchy 2005-05-26 09:28 PM
I finally found a minute to catch up on everything in detail and immediately felt like a heel when I came across Tommy's earlier post.

Thank you, Alex, for the time and effort you have put into this thread (along with others), and your patience with answering questions and approaching topics as they come up. For the last few days you've been the calm voice of reason in a tempest of uncertainty and fear, and we all owe you our thanks. |peace|

HornyHeather 2005-05-26 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Barron
Put yourself in the position of the inspector. You are looking at a picture of a guy and girl that is having sexual intercourse. The woman has breasts and pubic hair. Ok, the girl has reached puberty. The guy has pubic hair. Ok, he has reached puberty. But, since I cant see the faces, are the models 16 or 26?

Without a clear indication that the models are over 18, or at least an indication that a reasonable person could tell by looking at the faces, I would be looking for the 2257 info, wouldnt you?


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Barron..Most of my pictures in my website are me on my knees and all you can see are legs and cocks, I do have compliances for these guys and they are all 40+ in age...Are they going to call these guys and line them up nude next to the photos and see who is who?

HornyHeather 2005-05-26 09:33 PM
Wenchy, I second that! Alex has been awesome and patient with all us nuts! |bananna|

Barron 2005-05-26 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Toby
Barron, To my knowledge there's never been so much as a knock on someone's door.

One thing that does need to be kept in mind, these new regulations allow the DOJ to appoint local law enforcement to perform the inspection. I'm not sure that will happen much since the Fed's tend to be pretty territorial and don't care much for sharing the spotlight.

I get this vision of the feds asking the local police chief, or the local sherriff, or the local district attorney to go out and inspect a certain individual and the reply is, "What the fuck are 2257 regulations?... Really, you guys have that?.... Sorry, we would rather chase murders, armed robbers and people doing drive-bys. You'll have to do the inspections, we dont have time for that non-sense... bye!" |waves|


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HornyHeather 2005-05-26 09:38 PM
lol Barron

Barron 2005-05-26 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by HornyHeather
Barron..Most of my pictures in my website are me on my knees and all you can see are legs and cocks, I do have compliances for these guys and they are all 40+ in age...Are they going to call these guys and line them up nude next to the photos and see who is who?

No no, you missed my point. I'm only saying that, considering the resources and manpower available, they are only going to go after the most obvious offenses. I'm thinking it is more likely that you will be inspected if the they cant tell what the age of the model is from the get go.

However, if you get a rendigade inspector, and thats a big if, he just might become an asshole and make you jump through hoops to prove exactly who is in the photo! I'm thinking you dont want that either :)


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HornyHeather 2005-05-26 09:42 PM
Well like I said hun, the only way I could really put a face with a cock, is have these guys get naked...I was just being blunt, and you made me think with your comment..I dont crop the pictures that is how we take them, that is what my members like, but I never thought about how it would twist on me...

Useless 2005-05-26 09:49 PM
Everyone calm the fuck down! Don't make me put you in leashes. This is a matter of record keeping. That is all. Are there some pretty big implications? Yes. Have you ever known anyone who has gone to jail for shitty record keeping? What's that? No? Of course not.

Slow down, catch your breath, and relax.

Do you do anything that would give the DOJ a reason to knock on your door? Do you plan on posting questionable content any time soon?

Yes, we're going to see a bunch of pages come down in the very near future, but I'll bet most of them coming down will be due to panic and fear.

Give your sponsors a chance to spend some money on attorneys. You helped them earn it, now it's time to see it get used for something other than stupid contests and Internext keggers. Soon enough, they will report back with the hard facts, not just bullshit speculation.

No one reading this is going to jail. You aren't going to be arrested in another month for being an adult webmaster, not even the month after that. You don't have anything to fear. You really don't. Let's be smart and patient. Just stay calm and stay tuned in here to good old Greenguy & Jim's Ultimate 2257 Resource Board. Besides, where else are you going to learn how to properly douche a gay midget?

Barron 2005-05-26 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by HornyHeather
Well like I said hun, the only way I could really put a face with a cock, is have these guys get naked...I was just being blunt, and you made me think with your comment..I dont crop the pictures that is how we take them, that is what my members like, but I never thought about how it would twist on me...

These new regs created as many questions as it did answers. Lets let the lawyers figure it all out. That will take a few days. Hopefully the answers will come more sooner than later and we all can get back to work.

So there is work out there for those of use over 40 huh? I may need a new line of work come June 23, is there a place I can sign up? |mml|


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LindaMight 2005-05-26 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Barron
Put yourself in the position of the inspector. You are looking at a picture of a guy and girl that is having sexual intercourse. The woman has breasts and pubic hair. Ok, the girl has reached puberty. The guy has pubic hair. Ok, he has reached puberty. But, since I cant see the faces, are the models 16 or 26?

Without a clear indication that the models are over 18, or at least an indication that a reasonable person could tell by looking at the faces, I would be looking for the 2257 info, wouldnt you?


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Well for once I guess I can say "thank heavens I look middle aged". Who would have thunk?

Linda |headbang|

HornyHeather 2005-05-26 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
Everyone calm the fuck down! Don't make me put you in leashes. This is a matter of record keeping. That is all. Are there some pretty big implications? Yes. Have you ever known anyone who has gone to jail for shitty record keeping? What's that? No? Of course not.

Slow down, catch your breath, and relax.

Do you do anything that would give the DOJ a reason to knock on your door? Do you plan on posting questionable content any time soon?

Yes, we're going to see a bunch of pages come down in the very near future, but I'll bet most of them coming down will be due to panic and fear.

Give your sponsors a chance to spend some money on attorneys. You helped them earn it, now it's time to see it get used for something other than stupid contests and Internext keggers. Soon enough, they will report back with the hard facts, not just bullshit speculation.

No one reading this is going to jail. You aren't going to be arrested in another month for being an adult webmaster, not even the month after that. You don't have anything to fear. You really don't. Let's be smart and patient. Just stay calm and stay tuned in here to good old Greenguy & Jim's Ultimate 2257 Resource Board. Besides, where else are you going to learn how to properly douche a gay midget?

Wow Hun...Thank you...You outa be a Dom...I am submitting...LOL Thanks!

HornyHeather 2005-05-26 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Barron
These new regs created as many questions as it did answers. Lets let the lawyers figure it all out. That will take a few days. Hopefully the answers will come more sooner than later and we all can get back to work.

So there is work out there for those of use over 40 huh? I may need a new line of work come June 23, is there a place I can sign up? |mml|


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LOL I am always looking for over 40 men! Anything younger than that is just to im-mature, No Pun intended to the younger guys here... |couch|

Barron 2005-05-26 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
Everyone calm the fuck down! Don't make me put you in leashes. This is a matter of record keeping. That is all. Are there some pretty big implications? Yes. Have you ever known anyone who has gone to jail for shitty record keeping? What's that? No? Of course not.

Slow down, catch your breath, and relax.

Do you do anything that would give the DOJ a reason to knock on your door? Do you plan on posting questionable content any time soon?

Yes, we're going to see a bunch of pages come down in the very near future, but I'll bet most of them coming down will be due to panic and fear.

Give your sponsors a chance to spend some money on attorneys. You helped them earn it, now it's time to see it get used for something other than stupid contests and Internext keggers. Soon enough, they will report back with the hard facts, not just bullshit speculation.

No one reading this is going to jail. You aren't going to be arrested in another month for being an adult webmaster, not even the month after that. You don't have anything to fear. You really don't. Let's be smart and patient. Just stay calm and stay tuned in here to good old Greenguy & Jim's Ultimate 2257 Resource Board. Besides, where else are you going to learn how to properly douche a gay midget?

I think most people have gotten past "the sky is falling". From what I can tell, most people are have taken a deep breath, considered their options and are making decisions based on either personal or business reasons. At least I have.

I'm just waiting on the lawyers to sort out the details. The porn business will go on, there will be money to be made and once everyone gets the cross-indexing done, it will be business as usual.


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HornyHeather 2005-05-26 10:07 PM
Your Right Barron, I think what most of us are concerned about is having our info published on the net...Indexing dont bother me, the compliances, not a problem...
Stalkers and antipornists scare me

Barron 2005-05-26 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HornyHeather
Wow Hun...Thank you...You outa be a Dom...I am submitting...LOL Thanks!
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Originally Posted by HornyHeather
LOL I am always looking for over 40 men! Anything younger than that is just to im-mature, No Pun intended to the younger guys here... |couch|
Woo hoo, A job doing what I do best! Doing what I like an get paid? To good to be true. |bananna| |pink |bananna| |pink

HornyHeather 2005-05-26 10:16 PM
See that! |thumb

MrYum 2005-05-26 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
Everyone calm the fuck down! Don't make me put you in leashes. This is a matter of record keeping. That is all. Are there some pretty big implications? Yes. Have you ever known anyone who has gone to jail for shitty record keeping? What's that? No? Of course not.

Slow down, catch your breath, and relax.

Do you do anything that would give the DOJ a reason to knock on your door? Do you plan on posting questionable content any time soon?

Yes, we're going to see a bunch of pages come down in the very near future, but I'll bet most of them coming down will be due to panic and fear.

Give your sponsors a chance to spend some money on attorneys. You helped them earn it, now it's time to see it get used for something other than stupid contests and Internext keggers. Soon enough, they will report back with the hard facts, not just bullshit speculation.

No one reading this is going to jail. You aren't going to be arrested in another month for being an adult webmaster, not even the month after that. You don't have anything to fear. You really don't. Let's be smart and patient. Just stay calm and stay tuned in here to good old Greenguy & Jim's Ultimate 2257 Resource Board. Besides, where else are you going to learn how to properly douche a gay midget?
Agree with others, Alex thanks very much for all the solid input on these matters |thumb

Gotta give another big thumbs up to UW, the commments above are some of the most solid advice in this entire thread. The sky is not falling...at least not yet.

While I certainly don't agree with MANY things the US gov does, I also have a VERY hard time envisioning an honest webmaster being LOCKED UP for 5 years due to a CLERICAL problem. Hassled...possibly...annoyed probably...but locked the fuck up because you don't have all your ducks all lined up nice and pretty? Locked up because the folks on your site...that you CAN prove ARE over age...but you haven't shut down business for several weeks to go back to hundreds or thousands of sites...sites you built years ago...you haven't gone back and fulfilled these INANE documentation requirements??? Locked the the fuck up for a clerical issue? Sorry folks, perhaps I'm too naive (doubtful)...but I REALLY don't see ANYONE getting locked up over this...at least not anyone who is doing business above board in the first place.

Now, UW has given us some good advice. Let's let the sponsors and the FSC deal with this crap. I'd bet there WILL be injunctions...and BEFORE folks start selling off their businesses...or renting office space...or moving fucking hosting...let's see what the final version of this looks like. Get your ducks in a row...but common sense SCREAMS that what we see now...is not what will be enforced. IF any enforcement happens at all!

My plan is business as usual. I'm a business man...nothing more...nothing less. I certainly don't deal in cp, or be*st crap, or anything illegal. I'd challenge anyone to find anything illegal on my servers or my local drives. Hell, I even have a rule on my link list to keep the text friendly to women...no need to degrade women to sell sex. SEX IS FUN people!

IF the US gov wants to drag my ass into court (I look great in a suit btw :D)...the media would have a field day seeing an honest hard working business man in court over fucking clerical errors. And I have absolutely NO FEAR about being locked the fuck up. This is NOT 1950's Russia...it's just not gonna happen folks. At least not to those of us who are in this as a business and aren't involved in the seedy underside of this biz.

Geez, let's get some work done...there are horny surfers out there...and they WANT to use their credit cards :D

Oh, last comment...definitely support the FSC! They are our voice in this...a very worthwhile cause. And they very well may have a significant impact on what clerical requirements will be enforced.

Now, I'm off to sling some porn...I can just smell those surfer credit cards...mmm...yummy :D

Boogie 2005-05-26 10:33 PM
Well, here is my take on it all.

Its a waiting game.

Look, I have a handfull of sites on the internet that have actual content on them. This content as a whole is generlaly sponsor produced and donated.

With that said, all I really can do is wait. do I want to publish my home address on all the sites I create and have created? NO. and I do work for home.

I'm going to wait til the last minute to do it but even when I do that adress is already public via whois so whats it matter? Its been up there for 8 years and no one has knocked on my door yet, why will they tomorrow?

Most likely they wont.

So try my method. Be ready, be informed, keep tabs of whats going on but most of all relax. I think a lot of folks who are getting out dont really know why they're doing it they're just heading for the hills.

Good riddance to most of them though, with a few exceptions.

More room in the pool for me :)

Barron 2005-05-26 10:42 PM
I was nice about it the first time, but I refuse to be nice about it the second time.

EDIT:

scratch all that, I wont try to help anymore. good luck to all of you.


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RamCharger 2005-05-26 11:25 PM
As a government employee [not law enforcement] I can tell you this much: the saying you can't fight city hall isn't entirely true, but it's damn close. What it boils down to is this: if someone has a big enough bug up their ass then they'll gladly piss away a day or more of their time (using your tax dollars) to come up with creative interpretation (see bastardization) of an existing reg to do what they damn well want. Then the problem becomes that you're going to have to defeat the twit using your time and your dollars while they're leaning back in their chair whistling dixie and not breaking a sweat since there's no personal liability in it for them either way. It really is an ugly thing.

plateman 2005-05-26 11:51 PM
I to agree with useless and if I have to I'll be sitting on my porch building porn with a shot gun inside the door if any of those mother fuckers want to mess with me :D and maybe in my boxers and also I live in a not so friendly part of town and if the protesters want to come over the more the merrier...

RamCharger 2005-05-27 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by plateman
I to agree with useless and if I have to I'll be sitting on my porch building porn with a shot gun inside the door if any of those mother fuckers want to mess with me :D and maybe in my boxers and also I live in a not so friendly part of town and if the protesters want to come over the more the merrier...
Might I suggest an office in ever scenic Newark, NJ or Detroit or South Central LA or that part of Washington, D.C. where no one goes out at night? :D hmm 2257 violator or the crack house next door... decisions, decisions, decisions.

RamCharger 2005-05-27 12:27 AM
On a side note, what really amazes me is that so many sites start right out with a hardcore front page with the minors prohibited wording right beneath it. How's that work? Yes, we're all fishing for people, but that seems to be a recipe for fishing for a lawsuit since you've already displayed nudity including hardcore before they could even accept the legal disclaimer on the front page.

digifan 2005-05-27 04:23 AM
For those worried about foreign producer and model and IDs here is a helpful article
https://www.ynot.com/modules.php?op=...rder=0&thold=0

Useless 2005-05-27 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RamCharger
On a side note, what really amazes me is that so many sites start right out with a hardcore front page with the minors prohibited wording right beneath it. How's that work? Yes, we're all fishing for people, but that seems to be a recipe for fishing for a lawsuit since you've already displayed nudity including hardcore before they could even accept the legal disclaimer on the front page.
It's a good point in it's intent, but unless the rest of your pages are behind .htaccess or some other blocking device, there's no telling which page a surfer is going to land on. Google is going to send them to which every page they deem worthy in conisdertion of the terms searched. The DOJ certainly doesn't seem to care. If they did, they'd be demanding better warnings, not total control of all content on every page. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big believer in warning pages too, but my stats tell me that mine aren't seen very often.

ardentgent 2005-05-27 07:55 AM
Link Lists V. Tgps
 
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Originally Posted by RawAlex
If my main business was thumbtgps, I would be looking for a new line of business starting today. It would appear that thumb tgps will require 2257 documents for every thumb they show.

Alex
Whata about link lists with free sites. How is that different from tgps? Wouldn't the links lists have to have 2257 documents on every thumb they show from free sites?

Thanhs. |dizzy| |dizzy| |dizzy| |dizzy|

Useless 2005-05-27 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ardentgent
Whata about link lists with free sites. How is that different from tgps? Wouldn't the links lists have to have 2257 documents on every thumb they show from free sites?

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Link lists and text TGPs don't show thumbs or store anything except the link and it's description. They'd only have to account for their own content and adverstising.

RamCharger 2005-05-27 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
It's a good point in it's intent, but unless the rest of your pages are behind .htaccess or some other blocking device, there's no telling which page a surfer is going to land on. Google is going to send them to which every page they deem worthy in conisdertion of the terms searched. The DOJ certainly doesn't seem to care. If they did, they'd be demanding better warnings, not total control of all content on every page. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big believer in warning pages too, but my stats tell me that mine aren't seen very often.
My concern about this (and why I'm putting it here) is that everyone is expressing grave concern over this new law, but the reality is that being on the receiving end of it would require the federal government to go after you. However, there are a number of more easilly pressed lawsuits that only require a screaming parent or other person to initiate that no one here seems to have on their radar and that alot of sites seem to be easy fodder for.

juggernaut 2005-05-27 09:59 AM
OK well I'm kind of baffled to this whole thing and how its going to affect my site as I have all the models ID's and I'm very strict as to not allow them to show one image until they provide me with that info. Being I'm providing live streaming video does this even affect me? I think I should be ok until I start to partner or have afiliates etc, then I would need to get more of those images. I will be removing all banners from my site and only placing up text links. But I will be reading this very carfully. Now on to the address part. There are two things you can do here. 1) go to mail boxes.ETC they provide you with a real address with a suite attached. IE 123 any street, suite 123 anytown blah blah. 2) you can go to your local college pay a $50 registration fee and tell them you need a mail box. They will give you one with the college address on it. Anyway I'm not letting this ruin my Florida trip I will read when I get home as Im sure the feds wont make it to anyones house very soon.


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