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keke 2005-02-10 04:17 PM

is the Ask FantasyMan forum still there? wonder if FM knew all along that the bitch-er is a scammer?

some more facts:

Offices in Canada & London same with Steve
they both have a bad temper
they both uses "dave" as aliases

you quoted this Nick at oprano
Quote:

"""He is a little under the average height, wears glasses, balding, not fat, but a little on the pudgy side and has an english accent..
Drives nothing but Jags, has 2 kids and a wife.. """""
so both of them has wife & 2 kids.

Raven 2005-02-10 04:19 PM

He so reminds me of AWT/Ken/and other aliases.....but, it's just a feeling...no proof.

Lizzie 2005-02-10 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven
He so reminds me of AWT/Ken/and other aliases.....but, it's just a feeling...no proof.

Women's Intuition.....are we EVER wrong :D Mine tells me that the walls will come crashing down soon on the butcher shop |bananna|

Jim 2005-02-10 06:49 PM

I can say with about 100% accuracy that The Butcher is nobody that has been mentioned. I don't think anyone has ever heard from him before Sponsorchat.

Jim 2005-02-10 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim
I can say with about 100% accuracy that The Butcher is nobody that has been mentioned. I don't think anyone has ever heard from him before Sponsorchat.

Thinking about this...I guess I could be wrong. But I would bet money that I am not.

Believe it or not but I was just accused by PM as being paid off by Goldman for saying the above statement. I really did't think I needed to tell anyone but, my integrity is not for sale.

But, just to be safe, I will say...I could be wrong :)

Useless 2005-02-10 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven
He so reminds me of AWT/Ken/and other aliases.....but, it's just a feeling...no proof.

I'm right there with you. Thinking it's our old pal 'Kurt Fees' again. I've been waiting for him to wig out and start posting here under multiple aliases and speaking in ebonics. Damn, I miss the nut.

Greenguy 2005-02-10 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim
...Believe it or not but I was just accused by PM as being paid off by Goldman for saying the above statement...

Why the fuck would you care what some fucktard monkey that joined the board 5 minutes before he sent you the PM thinks about you.

Fuck - I'll call him out here & now:

Hey sonyposter ! When you grow a set of balls & decide to register with something other than an yahoo email address & fill out some info like a website & actually post on the board, your opinion of Jim or mean means about as much as this piece of dog shit stuck to the bottom of my shoe.

Don't hide behind what is basically an anonymous message - post so everyone knows you who are or shut the fuck up.

AdultLoungeRaffi 2005-02-11 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kezza
I guess I was a tad dissapointed to see what I thought was a high profile sponsor, sponsoring that board.

I actually signed up to the board... really wanted to defend Urb (one of the most genuine and honest people I have ever met in this business)

I had only made one post when I saw somones post had been deleted... a poster here... and certainly a person's opinion who shouldnt be deleted. when I questioned the deletion I was told it was either illegal or (hmmm cant think of the other thing) and I was advised if I wanted to hang at boards like "that" the moderator would send me a list.

Doesnt sound like a board that wants me :) and I have pretty much said nothing. But I am certainly not impressed by any sponsor that supports it... I am sure that no sponsor will hope to gain good business from that board.

Well, we dont really care much about politics in this industry, drama or who owns or runs a board...we just see see opportunity for marketing purpose only and so we take it...

Raven 2005-02-11 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
I'm right there with you. Thinking it's our old pal 'Kurt Fees' again. I've been waiting for him to wig out and start posting here under multiple aliases and speaking in ebonics. Damn, I miss the nut.

I don't miss him at all. But, even though the Butcher reminds me of Ken...and there are some locale similarities and domain similarities...when Ken would get bent out of shape, his spelling would deteriorate....more so than this guy....

Jim 2005-02-11 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy
Why the fuck would you care what some fucktard monkey that joined the board 5 minutes before he sent you the PM thinks about you.

Fuck - I'll call him out here & now:

Hey sonyposter ! When you grow a set of balls & decide to register with something other than an yahoo email address & fill out some info like a website & actually post on the board, your opinion of Jim or mean means about as much as this piece of dog shit stuck to the bottom of my shoe.

Don't hide behind what is basically an anonymous message - post so everyone knows you who are or shut the fuck up.

Yep, you are right Greenie. I never looked at the guy's emal. But, here is my pm I got from him.

Quote:

Jim,

Let me ask you how much did you get paid from dave thebutcher to cover him. In your last reply you say and I quote "I can say with about 100% accuracy that The Butcher is nobody that has been mentioned. I don't think anyone has ever heard from him before Sponsorchat." .

It has been proved many times he is Steve Goldman on oprano, gfy, etc the famous con artist from Canada. I would have never believe he will buy JIM and GreenGuy out. You were among the last honest guys in the industry but I guess I was wrong.

Also even that it does not matter now but his member list all fake and made by himself only. All the fake members don't have any icon for email address. That means the email field is blank. That could not happen with a normal "register" member as the script asks for an email , the field cannot be blank. The only way to overwrite that script is to create all those members from your ADMIN area in the BBS script and this way the members are created with the email field blank. Try it on your own board to see. So all this story that somebody else created the members is another of his scams, but probably you already knew that and that's why Goldman decided to buy you out and shut up. Also if he is not Goldman why doesn't he give out his office address and phone number so people that got screwed by Goldman could visit him and see who he really is. Why hide if he claims he did not scam anybody?


Good luck but everybody is very disappointed and we hope you will change your stand on this matter.
and...after I told him fuck you, you don't know what you are talking about.
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Jim, I WAS SAYING THAT HE IS BULLSHITING YOU AGAIN. I said that he does all his fake members from his own admin. The accusation he made that you did it for him to discredit his site is plain false, as you could not have done it. He did it himself to fool advertisers to pay him money and webmasters to look as an active place and guess what everybody wants to chat on an active board supposedly like sponsorchat but not on a quality board like greenguysboard.com . That's how he steals members from you and other boards fooling webmasters how active his board is with his fake self made members to increase counters!

About being Goldman or not, it is clearly his company and patterns and business. And way of doing things. You want more details ask Adultwebmasterinfo members that exposed his scams and his other previous 3 boards he run the same way. If you talked to him let us know his phone number and address and people that are owed money by goldman will either certify it or apologize to him if is not him. I am 100% sure is him and many people certify once they see him. You talked over the phone with him and because of that you could say is not Goldman, anybody could change his accent over the phone very easily. If he is that innocent he has to post his real info.

And from the outside it really looks like you have been paid by him to leave him alone. You had all the proof he is a scammer and you let him go all of a sudden after talking to him on the phone. He took you for a fool, he stole you members, he put down your board and members and now he is your friend.
This moron gets all this from me saying I was almost sure the guy was not anyone named Goldman.
WTF?

Linkster 2005-02-11 06:29 AM

Well - if anyone wants to contact this guy - here's his info that I got some time ago - best I can tell his real name is Dave

NorthField Ventures Limited
788-790 Fimchley Road
London, England NW11 7TJ
United Kingdom
02082018998 phone

Greenguy 2005-02-11 08:59 AM

I love how this ass clown thinks Jim and I took a bribe of some sort - hell, I like money, but this is an insult!

What have we posted since the phone call? Jim thinks that TheButcher is not one of the many, many names that have been thrown around & we said that he's gonna be on the Radio Show on Tuesday to clear things up.

That's probably worth $1 - I wonder if PayPal considers that an "adult" transaction :D

So sonyposter - post in public & speak your mind or shut the fuck up, you anonymous cock sucking money fucktard!

keke 2005-02-11 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster
Well - if anyone wants to contact this guy - here's his info that I got some time ago - best I can tell his real name is Dave

NorthField Ventures Limited
788-790 Fimchley Road
London, England NW11 7TJ
United Kingdom
02082018998 phone


didnt one of the board mentioned that this info is also fake? maybe the guys name is really dave and hiding from different aliases |pimpin

Jim 2005-02-11 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy
I love how this ass clown thinks Jim and I took a bribe of some sort - hell, I like money, but this is an insult!

What have we posted since the phone call? Jim thinks that TheButcher is not one of the many, many names that have been thrown around & we said that he's gonna be on the Radio Show on Tuesday to clear things up.

That's probably worth $1 - I wonder if PayPal considers that an "adult" transaction :D

So sonyposter - post in public & speak your mind or shut the fuck up, you anonymous cock sucking money fucktard!

I'm buying me a new car today :)

Greenguy 2005-02-11 10:08 AM

They drove a dump truck full of money up to the front of my house! I'm not made of stone!!!!!

cd34 2005-02-11 10:11 AM

lets see, at .10 per post, you are in debt eleventy million kiss-ass posts to The Butcher

teedy 2005-02-12 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim
Yep, you are right Greenie. I never looked at the guy's emal. But, here is my pm I got from him.


and...after I told him fuck you, you don't know what you are talking about.

This moron gets all this from me saying I was almost sure the guy was not anyone named Goldman.
WTF?

Definately reminds me of a feminine ass wipe
something about this seems famliar to me

I hate people that hide behind fake emails
too Jim :) why do that if they believe what they are saying?

Agent 2005-02-13 03:51 PM

I just visited their board. I haven't really paid much attention to the controversy. Within five minutes I've found:

A member using a keyword as their name which sould be banned
A bunch of sponsors I'll probably distance myself from
A few shady fuckers I would never deal with

I don't believe the stories about people offering money to buy SC. Those rumors probably materialized to create a false worth for SC.

I think we have a rogue nation of webmasters festering there.

AdultLoungeRaffi 2005-02-14 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADK
I just visited their board. I haven't really paid much attention to the controversy. Within five minutes I've found:

A member using a keyword as their name which sould be banned
A bunch of sponsors I'll probably distance myself from
A few shady fuckers I would never deal with

I don't believe the stories about people offering money to buy SC. Those rumors probably materialized to create a false worth for SC.

I think we have a rogue nation of webmasters festering there.

Well, i am sure you didnt fail to notice we AdultLounge.com sponsored their board and skinned it...and it was simply because

a) it was a good price
b) just another board to us
c) we dont get into much of the politics or drama

Just to clarify, we dont personally know who runs it ( i believe its a gentlemen names Dave ) also i would encourage you to ask ANYONE in this industry about me and AdultLounge.coim

swedguy 2005-02-14 04:12 AM

Am I the only who is curious who keke is?

TheButcher 2005-02-14 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by swedguy
Am I the only who is curious who keke is?


Now that's the smartest question I have read on this board.

I would like to know who keke/angelmaries/"et al" is.

angelmaries was one of my first members in the very first couple of days, she joined my board, which lets face it was brand new and no one knew about, became a moderator, and now runs this who lies/stories about my board.

Who is keke?

Kezza 2005-02-14 08:35 AM

Whoever Keke is... she certainly sounds like someone whom has been personally hurt... every post by her on this board alone speaks very highly of someone with a beef... or someone who has been hurt... I have joined and read your board and read as much as I can... and she was an intrigate part of your board... and contributed well... I have no idea what happened with the money etc... but it does seem like she did help your board out to seem very active in its initial stages... I would have thought that was a good thing.

Adult Lounge... I hope you get some good business from your ventures... but I certainly hope you care about your webmasters a tad more than you have considered your advertising policies.

TheButcher 2005-02-14 08:52 AM

Let me explain a couple of other things for people with lower IQ's since I read a lot of posts here which are obviously made by less fortuante individuals who don't seem to have got past 3rd grade.

#1. thing advertisers want is exposure, trust me on this point, with all the talk about sponsorchat and TheButcher, that's what my advertisers are getting a lot of banner views. (If this point goes over anyone's head then you don't know the first thing about advertising, so do yourself a favor stop reading past this point!)

#2. We have from the newbie to the most highly experienced webmasters on sponsorchat. We don't fight we concentrate on busienss issues. There is a very good positive minded attitude there.

#3. Unlike some other boards we don't start multiple threads picking fights with anyone, we keep things logical and coherent.

#4. We don't fake interviews with people on there and slap ourselves on the back for having done the interview. All our interviews were done with the real people.

#5. Our board is a vehicle to do business not meant for broke jealous individuals who seeing their own failure sit their trying to blame others. Everyone on sponsorchat wants to do business, learn, grow and help eachother. We seldom see pissing matches.

#6. If you aren't an advertiser why do you care about them? (see #1)

Can't wait till tomorrow and reveal afew secrets on the radio show. Keep tuned.

Greenguy 2005-02-14 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TheButcher
#4. We don't fake interviews with people on there and slap ourselves on the back for having done the interview. All our interviews were done with the real people.

Hey Now! We only did that one time :D

Useless 2005-02-14 09:07 AM

It hurt's me to say this, but I have to get this off of my chest. I'm tired of reading this guy's posts and tired of reading about him. We all KNOW that his board is a fraud. I don't see any point in entertaining him any longer or allowing him to come here and insult this board and its members any longer.
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheButcher
#3. Unlike some other boards we don't start multiple threads picking fights with anyone, we keep things logical and coherent.

Didn't he start a 'losers' list?

I will not be tuning in to tomorrow night's radio show. I'm done with this Butcher bullshit.

Kezza 2005-02-14 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheButcher
Let me explain a couple of other things for people with lower IQ's since I read a lot of posts here which are obviously made by less fortuante individuals who don't seem to have got past 3rd grade.

Are you referring to me?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheButcher
#4. We don't fake interviews with people on there and slap ourselves on the back for having done the interview. All our interviews were done with the real people.

Surely everyone took that as the joke it was intended to be... stop being so sensitive!!! It was bloody funny!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheButcher
#6. If you aren't an advertiser why do you care about them? (see #1).

I do care about my sponsors and whom I promote

Linkster 2005-02-14 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheButcher
Let me explain a couple of other things for people with lower IQ's since I read a lot of posts here which are obviously made by less fortuante individuals who don't seem to have got past 3rd grade

I guess Im in this group :) because I still don't understand a lot of things I see over at your board.

#1 - your moderators (the first ones and "most experienced") are all from the mainstream pay per post boards - I recognize most of their handles - and they had no knowledge (as do you I assume based on your posts) of the adult business whatsoever.

#2 - Some sponsors, duped by your faked member loading and faked views, have taken you on as a viable advertising location, although as AdultLounge posted, they just do it because it's cheap and easy. I have yet to see an informative post made by a single sponsor that wasnt run on every other adult board as part of the sponsors robot posting runs, so I think the board, if I understand the purpose and mission, is not even coming close to fulfilling it's primary agenda.

#3 - Having been around this business for some years, if I see a post calling posters and potential advertisers "low IQ" and "3rd grade mentality" then I usually take my business elsewhere - this is not limited to your board, but includes any business on the web.

#4 - I asked a question some time back about why you would buy domains that would benefit from other legitimate businesses traffic (ex. gfyer.com and menniche.com) and you have never responded, therefore I get the feeling that you are still a domain scammer and thief. I'm sure that Lensman and others would be very interested in your intent with owning these domains as would I.

#5 - and final point - Anyone that has been in this business for less than 6 months (as you claim and as your domain and business records show as well as your posts on mainstream boards for your BB software) and is already being called a scammer and cheat, is off to a great start, and as just a piece of friendly advice - you might want to re-think your business plan and your attitude towards others that challenge you as I can see from your posts on your own board that you are not ready to run a successful business. Take some time to educate yourself and learn from others that have been down the same path you are taking as it might help in the long run - hiding behind experienced well-known names in the industry does not make you experienced.

keke 2005-02-14 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedguy
Am I the only who is curious who keke is?

i used to be a mod at sponsorchat with nick: angelmaries whom the bitch-er didnt pay for my posts, contest prizes, mod fee (he said he'll pay me $200/mos. thats why i accepted the job. I used angelmaries since i found internet so many years ago and used everywhere and started using keke when joined netpond, jbm and this board just this january 2005.

I own 2 get paid to read sites and 2 penpal sites. Im married with 1 son. I was born in the philippines but living in the US permanently for the last 8 yrs now.

what else do you want to know about me?

keke 2005-02-14 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheButcher
Let me explain a couple of other things for people with lower IQ's since I read a lot of posts here which are obviously made by less fortuante individuals who don't seem to have got past 3rd grade.

#1. thing advertisers want is exposure, trust me on this point, with all the talk about sponsorchat and TheButcher, that's what my advertisers are getting a lot of banner views. (If this point goes over anyone's head then you don't know the first thing about advertising, so do yourself a favor stop reading past this point!)

#2. We have from the newbie to the most highly experienced webmasters on sponsorchat. We don't fight we concentrate on busienss issues. There is a very good positive minded attitude there.

#3. Unlike some other boards we don't start multiple threads picking fights with anyone, we keep things logical and coherent.

#4. We don't fake interviews with people on there and slap ourselves on the back for having done the interview. All our interviews were done with the real people.

#5. Our board is a vehicle to do business not meant for broke jealous individuals who seeing their own failure sit their trying to blame others. Everyone on sponsorchat wants to do business, learn, grow and help eachother. We seldom see pissing matches.

#6. If you aren't an advertiser why do you care about them? (see #1)

Can't wait till tomorrow and reveal afew secrets on the radio show. Keep tuned.


Its not because you own properties & have collections of mercedes benz doesnt make you smarter than us |devil| Iam a graduate of accounting and have units of masters degree (give me your name and address so i can send you my certificate) worked at nissan for more than 10 yrs as an accountant. I may not be smart as you to scammed people over the net and hide on different aliases every time you have a new board but i can tell you that im an honest person who paid my members every penny i owe them every time they request payout.

I'll wait for whatever you will say in the radio program to say other things. Dont make a fool of yourself and tell the truth since theres links and documents to prove if you tell a lie. |bow|

Useless 2005-02-14 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
I will not be tuning in to tomorrow night's radio show. I'm done with this Butcher bullshit.

Ok, I'm calm now. I shouldn't let that child get to me, I know.

You guys know that I can't miss the show. But this time, I'll be sitting with voodoo doll marked 'TheButcher' and I'll be poking pins in him.:D

Lizzie 2005-02-14 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
Ok, I'm calm now. I shouldn't let that child get to me, I know.

You guys know that I can't miss the show. But this time, I'll be sitting with voodoo doll marked 'TheButcher' and I'll be poking pins in him.:D

Then your not so 'Useless' after all and are now my hero:)

Agent 2005-02-14 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheButcher
#5. Our board is a vehicle to do business not meant for broke jealous individuals who seeing their own failure sit their trying to blame others. Everyone on sponsorchat wants to do business, learn, grow and help eachother. We seldom see pissing matches.

I admit, I have not read any pissing match threads at SC. I'll be the first to apologize if 364646464 and 464687585 start taking the piss out of each other anywhere on that board.

Lizzie 2005-02-14 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheButcher

#5. Our board is a vehicle to do business not meant for broke jealous individuals who seeing their own failure sit their trying to blame others. Everyone on sponsorchat wants to do business, learn, grow and help eachother. We seldom see pissing matches.

Yep....no pissing matches cuz he banned anyone that said something he didn't like. And then he starts threads bashing people he banned and they have no way to respond. What an idiot.

greencooler 2012-02-27 05:37 AM

I must confirm that "the butcher" is a liar. He owes me money too. His or her site is a scam and (s)he rips people off. Just do a search @ Google.

Toby 2012-02-27 06:31 AM

Holy ancient thread bump Batman! |greenbat

Greenguy 2012-02-27 10:15 AM

Timely |thumb

Cleo 2012-02-27 10:18 AM

Is it 2005 again?

JAI-LING 2012-02-28 06:59 AM

Maybe its related to a 10 cents a post offer made yesterday...for the month of march/2012????

mOrrI 2012-02-28 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo (Post 514040)
Is it 2005 again?

Yes it is :-D

Fonz 2012-02-29 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo (Post 514040)
Is it 2005 again?

Let me take a look at my stats.


Nope, defenitly 2012...


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