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karomesis 2006-03-14 09:26 PM

how long for blog to make 1 sale a day?
 
In your opinion pro bloggers, how long would it take to have 10 blogs each making 1 sale a day working a minimum of 6 hrs a day and updating each blog a minimum of 3 times a week?Also assuming that the respective porn blogger has some decent writing skills and is able to compose a proper english sales text.

I am actually considering getting into blogging as an adjunct to my freesite submission tactics but want something that will help me reach my sales goals for mid 2007.|thumb

walrus 2006-03-15 12:38 AM

There is no real way to answer your question honestly because there are simply to many variables to consider. Do I think you can be in a postion where a network of 10 blogs were netting a sale a day each within a year, probably.

But you have a large learning curve if your going to do it. Promoting a blog is similar to promoting a free site in some ways but it's also very different and its really more than just writing good sales text.

But if you want to really get serious about it, start reading there is tons of stuff out there about marketing with blogs and then try and disect what Boogie did with Pornogomy because that definately one way to be successful at it.

Here's one of the places I like to read now and them
http://blogforfunandprofit.blogware....g/HowToBlog101

ronnie 2006-03-15 07:54 AM

I agree, hard to say. Dont know how good you are at getting traffic or getting surfers to the sponsor. Keeping up blogs is more time consuming than most realize. Best thing to do is start a blog and see how it goes and learn, learn, learn. Dont forget Walrus has some good info on his blogging tools site.

Anything is possible if you believe it.

ronnie

Lemmy 2006-03-15 08:33 AM

I'm sure it's possible, but for the time you're going to put into it I bet you could make twice as many sales making freesites.

It takes a lot of time maintaining a real blog, not to mention ten. I started my blogs with big ambitions, but the return vs effort is discouraging. They've both degenerated into occassionally updated splogs and if I've made ten sales off both of them in the past year that would be it.

99% of my traffic is from SEs, but 99% of that again is image and video searches and I don't think it's very productive.

Best of luck, but be prepared for a lot of hard work.

Boogie 2006-03-15 11:11 AM

It would take exactly 214 days.

Exactly. I used MAGIC MEGA MATH to figure this out.

It would require 914 hours of work a week and you'll have to learn to harness the suns rays to do it.

but 214 days. mark my words.

bunky2u 2006-03-15 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boogie
It would take exactly 214 days.

Exactly. I used MAGIC MEGA MATH to figure this out.

It would require 914 hours of work a week and you'll have to learn to harness the suns rays to do it.

but 214 days. mark my words.

*gasps*

I'll take two!

karomesis 2006-03-15 04:22 PM

thanks for the help guys.|headbang| I know it will take ALOT of hard work, and I am doing this full time right now.

Lemmy, you really think with the same amount of time invested in free sites I could be at 20 sales a day in mid 07? That would be 500-650$ a day|shocking| I keep think I'm missing something here, work hard for a year or two full time and make good money? I busted my ass for two years at my last startup and have jackshit to show for it.|banghead|

I learned alot from it, but made no dough.|huh

RawAlex 2006-03-15 04:52 PM

Actually, I have to say this: 1 sale per day at $30 per sale would mean about $1000 for a single site (or about 12k per year). That would not be a bad return on a simple to middling blog.

Now, assuming that 1 in 50 people click to a sponsor, and 1 in 250 signup (you have a targetted product, so conversions are a bit better) then you are looking at needing... (READY?)

12,500 visitors per day to your blog.

Now, if you can up the clickouts to sponsors to 10% (1 in 10) that number drops to 2500 visitors... improve conversion to 1 in 200, you need 2000.

So, the question should be: How do I get 2500 real live visitors to my blog that are interested in what I am blogging about.

Sales will come naturally from that process, I think.

Alex

Carl 2006-03-15 05:37 PM

Eventually free sites do have a saturation point… A blogs does not, but if you want to live off of it… I think you will need both.

karomesis 2006-03-15 05:55 PM

RawAlex, Good point. If I was to get into blogs, I would probably read about 5-10 SEO books and implement that knowledge in my blogs. I would probably also spend some dough on info if I couldn't get it from those books.

Carl, If I could make 30k + a month I will be happy because I will then use this business to allocate funds toward other very lucrative investments like real esate and angel funding for biotech and nanotech startups:D

like these
http://www.zyvex.com/
http://www.cytoritx.com/about/
http://www.elixirpharm.com/

and others. I'm using this business as a springboard for BIG money. In the coming decades we will successfully slow and eventually eliminate the aging process in humans, how much money is there in giving society what it really wants? Not billions, but TRILLIONS of dollars. I know this isn't an investment forum , so I'll stop there, but that is the tip of the iceberg.

docholly 2006-03-15 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karomesis
like these
http://www.zyvex.com/
http://www.cytoritx.com/about/
http://www.elixirpharm.com/

and others. I'm using this business as a springboard for BIG money. In the coming decades we will successfully slow and eventually eliminate the aging process in humans, how much money is there in giving society what it really wants? Not billions, but TRILLIONS of dollars. I know this isn't an investment forum , so I'll stop there, but that is the tip of the iceberg.

I have nothing to add on the blog bit since i only have a personal one, but it is nice to see someone passionate about something they really believe in.

Now convert that "passion" to porn and you might make your goals.

Good luck

karomesis 2006-03-15 11:39 PM

docholly, thanks for the encouraging words.


I'm Very passionate about making this work, I will not stop until it does.

ronnie 2006-03-16 07:33 AM

Free sites usually die off also, where a blog keeps growing, if you keep working it. Usually with a free site you submit it, your done, thats pretty much the end. Unless you do SEO on the free site and get picked up by the SE's, but most people dont.

ronnie

Lemmy 2006-03-16 08:30 AM

SE hits to my freesites just keep on growing. Over the past year and a half I've submitted to some 150 LLs (currently down to about 24). Right now Google is my #5 referrer and Yahoo is #10, both ahead of some pretty big LLs that I submit to (and get accepted at) regularly.

Once a freesite has been out there for a month or two it usually picks up some PR and I have plenty of freesites with PR3.

The only SEO I do is put up some relevant text, make sure all the metas are matching and use and tags and such. I don't know what else I can do, but the SEs seem to notice. :)</div> </td> </tr> </table> <br /><table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="page"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr valign="bottom"> <td style="font-size:14pt">ronnie</td> <td class="smallfont" align="right">2006-03-16 11:01 AM</td> </tr> </table> <hr /> <div>I agree, I have some older free/avs sites that get good SE traffic, just saying most free sites I see, little to no SEO, or very badly done.<br /> <br /> ronnie</div> </td> </tr> </table> <br /><table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="page"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr valign="bottom"> <td style="font-size:14pt">karomesis</td> <td class="smallfont" align="right">2006-03-16 11:51 AM</td> </tr> </table> <hr /> <div>when I make my free sites I was going to put in some flies for the spiders. like tagging all pics, and using a decent amount of text in the index and gallery pages.<br /> <br /> lemmy, do you tag all your pics?<br /> <br /> ronnie, by very badly done do you mean an elementary approach to SEO, or a lack of approach entirely?</div> </td> </tr> </table> <br /><table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="page"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr valign="bottom"> <td style="font-size:14pt">Lemmy</td> <td class="smallfont" align="right">2006-03-16 12:36 PM</td> </tr> </table> <hr /> <div><div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; "> <div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div> <table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2"> <hr /> <div> Originally Posted by <strong>karomesis</strong> </div> <div style="font-style:italic">when I make my free sites I was going to put in some flies for the spiders. like tagging all pics, and using a decent amount of text in the index and gallery pages.<br /> <br /> lemmy, do you tag all your pics?<br /> <br /> ronnie, by very badly done do you mean an elementary approach to SEO, or a lack of approach entirely?</div> <hr /> </td> </tr> </table> </div>Every pic gets an <alt> and most links a <title> tag. I don't know how much it matters to the SEs, but it would be silly not to take the 2-3 minutes to get the most out of your efforts.</div> </td> </tr> </table> <br /><table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="page"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr valign="bottom"> <td style="font-size:14pt">RawAlex</td> <td class="smallfont" align="right">2006-03-16 02:35 PM</td> </tr> </table> <hr /> <div>With the new wordpress 2.0.x, the tagging is pretty much an automatic process, and a good one at that. You can really boost up your keywords and target phrases that way.<br /> <br /> If you really want to make blogging work, try to take on subjects you feel strongly about, things you are able to natually talk about without sounding like a moron. If you have to spend too much time "learning the lingo" people will long since have tuned out. <br /> <br /> It takes time, but you can develop some decent ideas with blogs.<br /> <br /> Alex</div> </td> </tr> </table> <br /><table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="page"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr valign="bottom"> <td style="font-size:14pt">Boogie</td> <td class="smallfont" align="right">2006-03-16 03:58 PM</td> </tr> </table> <hr /> <div>Rawalex brings up a great point.<br /> <br /> <br /> blog what you know, blog what you feel strong about. blog about things that touch you close, because those are going to be the entries that have real commentary people want to read.</div> </td> </tr> </table> <br /><table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="page"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr valign="bottom"> <td style="font-size:14pt">karomesis</td> <td class="smallfont" align="right">2006-03-16 05:16 PM</td> </tr> </table> <hr /> <div>boogie, in your experience, are people really that interested in the bloggers commentary? I know there are intellectual surfers, but aren't they more interested in jerking off?</div> </td> </tr> </table> <br /><table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="page"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr valign="bottom"> <td style="font-size:14pt">Useless</td> <td class="smallfont" align="right">2006-03-16 05:20 PM</td> </tr> </table> <hr /> <div><div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; "> <div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div> <table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2"> <hr /> <div> Originally Posted by <strong>karomesis</strong> </div> <div style="font-style:italic">boogie, in your experience, are people really that interested in the bloggers commentary? I know there are intellectual surfers, but aren't they more interested in jerking off?</div> <hr /> </td> </tr> </table> </div>What is a blog, if not nearly 100% commentary?</div> </td> </tr> </table> <br /><table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="page"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr valign="bottom"> <td style="font-size:14pt">karomesis</td> <td class="smallfont" align="right">2006-03-16 05:49 PM</td> </tr> </table> <hr /> <div><div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; "> <div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div> <table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2"> <hr /> What is a blog, if not nearly 100% commentary? <hr /> </td> </tr> </table> </div><br /> agreed. I guess it's just the amount of commentary they read that I was questioning. <br /> <br /> Useless Warrior, have you measured the average amount of time spent by surfers reading your blogs? My guess would be that different niches are more prone than others for long reading periods, probably due to the commonality of the subject matter. <br /> <br /> More common themed blogs have less attentive readership?|confused| <br /> <br /> sorry, just thinking out loud.|crazy|</div> </td> </tr> </table> <br /><table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="page"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr valign="bottom"> <td style="font-size:14pt">walrus</td> <td class="smallfont" align="right">2006-03-16 06:50 PM</td> </tr> </table> <hr /> <div><div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; "> <div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div> <table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2"> <hr /> <div> Originally Posted by <strong>Useless Warrior</strong> </div> <div style="font-style:italic">What is a blog, if not nearly 100% commentary?</div> <hr /> </td> </tr> </table> </div>A picture gallery dressed up in fancy software!</div> </td> </tr> </table> <br /><table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="page"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr valign="bottom"> <td style="font-size:14pt">Boogie</td> <td class="smallfont" align="right">2006-03-16 07:28 PM</td> </tr> </table> <hr /> <div><div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; "> <div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div> <table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2"> <hr /> <div> Originally Posted by <strong>karomesis</strong> </div> <div style="font-style:italic">boogie, in your experience, are people really that interested in the bloggers commentary? I know there are intellectual surfers, but aren't they more interested in jerking off?</div> <hr /> </td> </tr> </table> </div><br /> Bloggers are definately interested in the commentary, if its short, sweet, easy to read.<br /> <br /> :)<br /> <br /> I do think some folks read those three page enties some folks write but its far and few between.<br /> <br /> but, like this post, well spaced easily readable entries do get read.</div> </td> </tr> </table> <br /><table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="page"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr valign="bottom"> <td style="font-size:14pt">walrus</td> <td class="smallfont" align="right">2006-03-16 08:09 PM</td> </tr> </table> <hr /> <div><div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; "> <div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div> <table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2"> <hr /> <div> Originally Posted by <strong>Boogie</strong> </div> <div style="font-style:italic">I do think some folks read those three page enties some folks write but its far and few between.</div> <hr /> </td> </tr> </table> </div>That would be me! <br /> <br /> But I must admit only a few actually read my crap. <br /> <br /> My other blogs which are much more to the point convert better.</div> </td> </tr> </table> <br /> <br /> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr valign="top"> <td class="smallfont">All times are GMT -4. 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