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Useless 2006-12-20 06:06 PM

Blog POSTS on a Link List
 
This is something I've already queried Walrus on, and now I'm turning to the rest of you for further input. I'm currently working on a very hybrid link list which will list a great many things, and among them is individual blog posts. Yes, you read that correctly - individual blog posts. Of course, unlike linking to free sites, AVS sites, or galleries, the blog post submitter will only have to place a one-time link to my site being that most blogs dynamically list all of their reciprocal links on every blog page.

Now, I realize that hardcore bloggers really aren't accustomed to submitting individual posts. You submit a RSS feed and your done. I wish I could incorporate such a system to my project, but that simply isn't going to happen. I'm not that smart |badidea| and it really wouldn't be practical (on my end). This brings me to my first question: Would you submit the occasional blog post to a categorized link list? (There is some other filtering beyond simple categories which allows users to locate the type of content they are seeking, but I don't want to give away the whole shebang before launch.)

For those of you who would be willing to submit posts to the list, what minimum standards would you consider fair and appropriate? I believe in the old school text blogs and would therefore like to see at least 100 words in a post. Do you think that this is asking too much today? I still believe that people who are looking for blogs are seeking text, not a crap load of blindlinked images.

I cannot foresee myself allowing free hosted blogs. Do you agree? If not, convince why I would allow hosted blogs while not allowing free sites or galleries to use free or sponsor hosting. ;)

Would you prefer to create a brief description of your post or use a lead in from the post itself for the description?

That's all I've got at the moment. I know there's more, but I can't think of it at the moment. And, of course, Walrus is free to repeat here what he has already told me in private.|thumb

walrus 2006-12-20 07:49 PM

I'm going to refrain from commenting in specifics until a few others have a chance first but I've got to say that UW has come up with a concept that I have been tossing around a bit as what I think the ideal blog directory would look like.

Posts limited to one submit a day. In otherwords an aggregator that doesn't get spammed.

It maybe a little early to worry about such matters but a question for UW. With submitting posts, do the posts themselves get submitted into a specific category or does the blog get submitted into a specific category. The reason I ask, is the blog that I would likely be subbing from is a general type of blog and could be big tits one day, solo girl the next, fetish the following, etc.

Useless 2006-12-20 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walrus (Post 320398)
With submitting posts, do the posts themselves get submitted into a specific category or does the blog get submitted into a specific category. The reason I ask, is the blog that I would likely be subbing from is a general type of blog and could be big tits one day, solo girl the next, fetish the following, etc.

There would be no blog category. At least, I'm not leaning toward one right now. The submitter would submit the post to which ever category seems appropriate. I would rely on the submitter to submit to the category which benefits them most, as I can promise you, assuming I get a fair amount of daily submissions, I won't have time to read every post.

Also, to alleviate the fear of blog surfers getting lost amongst the links and not being able to find more blog posts, each different type of link is contained within a box of a different background color. Blog posts are a lovely lilac, AVS sites are a light blue, and so on. And Ponygirl suggested today a type of filtering which I had all but forgetten about and am now developing. Anyone wanting only blog posts, rather than having to scroll through all of the multi-colored boxes, will be able to click on "Blog Post" and be taken to a page (hopefully) of only blog post links from that particular category. Of course, I'll do the same for free sites, galleries, etc.

Oh, to clarify, the link's title would link directly to that post's page of your blog, the way a free site's link would link to the free site. I've no intention of aggregating and storing posts.

walrus 2006-12-20 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 320401)
Oh, to clarify, the link's title would link directly to that post's page of your blog, the way a free site's link would link to the free site. I've no intention of aggregating and storing posts.

Ok, aggregator was the wrong term but it was the closest one I could come up with at the moment.

ponygirl 2006-12-20 08:58 PM

ok, I had this huge long post then my kids went ballistic so I lost it. The post, my cool...:D

anyway - now that things have quieted down, I'll give it another try..

Since an occasional post is all I seem to get done these days, it doesn't sound like too much work to submit it :D

I like the idea of submitting posts in categories - although sometimes it's hard to tell what category it would go into...would you be looking only for themed posts then? With a personal blog it's a little harder to categorize things. Of course, you're not looking for every post to get subbed, so maybe I'd leave it for ones that are more themed.

I think it sounds like a great idea, I'm all for different ways to get traffic & exposure. Plus I like the whole idea - why not offer the surfer different ways to see what they want. Kind of like a one stop porn shop ;)

I had some more questions but I still need to re-gather my thoughts |potleaf| lol

MrYum 2006-12-20 09:02 PM

Well, not being a blogger...I really have no good input for ya UW...

But, did want to say...sounds like a very creative idea |thumb

Useless 2006-12-20 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponygirl (Post 320409)
I like the idea of submitting posts in categories - although sometimes it's hard to tell what category it would go into...would you be looking only for themed posts then? With a personal blog it's a little harder to categorize things. Of course, you're not looking for every post to get subbed, so maybe I'd leave it for ones that are more themed.

Now this is why I'm glad I brought it to the board. This is an issue I hadn't yet considered. I really like the more chit-chatty type of blog posts that aren't all hard sell, so maybe I'll be able come up with a little something. |huh


Quote:

Originally Posted by MrYum
But, did want to say...sounds like a very creative idea

Thank you, Yum. It's a project I've had on my mind for quite awhile and it's finally taking shape. I've spoiled myself by allowing only partner submissions for quite some time, but this one will be open to the public. |crazy| Yup, this will be the one that's going to kill me.

T Pat 2006-12-20 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 320392)
This is something I've already queried Walrus on, and now I'm turning to the rest of you for further input. I'm currently working on a very hybrid link list which will list a great many things, and among them is individual blog posts. Yes, you read that correctly - individual blog posts. Of course, unlike linking to free sites, AVS sites, or galleries, the blog post submitter will only have to place a one-time link to my site being that most blogs dynamically list all of their reciprocal links on every blog page.

Now, I realize that hardcore bloggers really aren't accustomed to submitting individual posts. You submit a RSS feed and your done. I wish I could incorporate such a system to my project, but that simply isn't going to happen. I'm not that smart |badidea| and it really wouldn't be practical (on my end). This brings me to my first question: Would you submit the occasional blog post to a categorized link list? (There is some other filtering beyond simple categories which allows users to locate the type of content they are seeking, but I don't want to give away the whole shebang before launch.)

For those of you who would be willing to submit posts to the list, what minimum standards would you consider fair and appropriate? I believe in the old school text blogs and would therefore like to see at least 100 words in a post. Do you think that this is asking too much today? I still believe that people who are looking for blogs are seeking text, not a crap load of blindlinked images.

I cannot foresee myself allowing free hosted blogs. Do you agree? If not, convince why I would allow hosted blogs while not allowing free sites or galleries to use free or sponsor hosting. ;)

Would you prefer to create a brief description of your post or use a lead in from the post itself for the description?

That's all I've got at the moment. I know there's more, but I can't think of it at the moment. And, of course, Walrus is free to repeat here what he has already told me in private.|thumb

MML would be proud of you for thinking outside of the box Useless :D

I realy think aggregating would be the way to go, but to be honest with you I'm to stupid to to code my own aggregator too.|huh

I've had more problems with Thumblogger blogs than I care to talk about so I agree with your no hosted blogs

Xallow 2006-12-20 11:40 PM

I don't really have a clue what a blog is or tries to achieve but if I did I am sure I would think it was a great idea UW. Good luck with Your project

Waka-Jawaka 2006-12-20 11:44 PM

I'm a little afraid when blogs are getting listed among with free sites on LLs. Won't these blogs become a "black hole" for LL traffic?
Look... you build free sites in accordance with quite hard rules: no more then 3 outgoing links, no blind links, no misleading links or banners... and so on. It's all for surfer to come back to LL after visiting free site.
But blog is the other case... I'd said If surfer comes back to LL from the blog, it means it's a bad blog :)

cash29 2006-12-20 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T Pat (Post 320430)
I realy think aggregating would be the way to go, but to be honest with you I'm to stupid to to code my own aggregator too.|huh

Me too and the ones available don't seem to be feature-complete enough to bother installing them. Believe it or not, I'm using wordpress+feedwordpress as my aggregator and so far it's not too bad.

Useless 2006-12-20 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waka-Jawaka (Post 320436)
I'm a little afraid when blogs are getting listed among with free sites on LLs. Won't these blogs become a "black hole" for LL traffic?
Look... you build free sites in accordance with quite hard rules: no more then 3 outgoing links, no blind links, no misleading links or banners... and so on. It's all for surfer to come back to LL after visiting free site.
But blog is the other case... I'd said If surfer comes back to LL from the blog, it means it's a bad blog :)

Apples and oranges.

walrus 2006-12-21 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waka-Jawaka (Post 320436)
I'm a little afraid when blogs are getting listed among with free sites on LLs. Won't these blogs become a "black hole" for LL traffic?
Look... you build free sites in accordance with quite hard rules: no more then 3 outgoing links, no blind links, no misleading links or banners... and so on. It's all for surfer to come back to LL after visiting free site.
But blog is the other case... I'd said If surfer comes back to LL from the blog, it means it's a bad blog :)

Surfers will return to where they find what they like, whether its a free site, gallery or blog.

ponygirl 2006-12-21 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waka-Jawaka (Post 320436)
I'm a little afraid when blogs are getting listed among with free sites on LLs. Won't these blogs become a "black hole" for LL traffic?
Look... you build free sites in accordance with quite hard rules: no more then 3 outgoing links, no blind links, no misleading links or banners... and so on. It's all for surfer to come back to LL after visiting free site.
But blog is the other case... I'd said If surfer comes back to LL from the blog, it means it's a bad blog :)

you can have rules for blog posts too - length, # of links out, # of pics allowed, etc.

I think it's good to offer the surfer choices - what if they don't like free sites? You've lost them anyway. If they find a blog they like, they'll bookmark it and come back to it. Doesn't mean they won't bookmark the directory they got it from too.

Give 'em what they want and they'll come back for more ;)

johnnybg 2006-12-21 04:17 AM

I'm making a site similar to digg, only with adults only news, articles and blog posts. I planned to post it here and UW gave me a pefect thread to do it.

Since blog posts can be a pain to read and approve/reject, I think the best way is to let the surfers manage what they like/dislike by means of voting, just like in all digg like sites. Letting users manage the content is on the other hand open invitation to spammers. You need to have loyal bookmarkers base to weed out the spam. Before you have loyal surfers you need to do it yourself.

Walrus has a point that people will come back for more only if they like what they saw the very first time they landed on your page, and you have 10 seconds to impress them. I think more and more people expect to be able to customize the content to their needs.

Making a link list with blog posts is aweome idea and I'll submit my posts wherever possible.

As for the rules... It's hard to define what's a good/bad post. There should be at least 100 words of meaningful and copy-free text. Something about models in the pictures, some story, joke, advice...

Fre hosted adult blogs? NO! You'll be deleting a lot of links in no time. Although, a lot of superb adult related blogs are on free hosts. Maybe you should do invitation-only free host posts. I can give you a list of those quality blogs if you want. I plan to include their posts in my project.

There are tons of TGP-like blogs around. I really don't like them. I don't even like my TGP-like blogs. Obviously, it's hard to make quality adult blog post. You have to do a lot of work only to write 300-500 words post with some value in it. If you make strict rules then you'll have small base of post submitters. If you have lenient rules, you'll end up looking like TGP-like blog.

Maybe it's best to start off with invitation only submits to build a surfers base. After that, implement some kind of voting system and then allow general submits.

Fonz 2006-12-21 04:29 AM

Nice concept fot sure :)

How about recip links. Is it enough that I place a link to your LL between my "blogroll" type of links one time and then can add every post I make to your LL?

Useless 2006-12-21 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fonz (Post 320476)
Nice concept fot sure :)

How about recip links. Is it enough that I place a link to your LL between my "blogroll" type of links one time and then can add every post I make to your LL?

Exactly. |thumb

walrus 2006-12-21 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonz (Post 320476)
Nice concept fot sure :)

How about recip links. Is it enough that I place a link to your LL between my "blogroll" type of links one time and then can add every post I make to your LL?

Personally, I think he's crazy for not requiring the following tag to be added to the tags you already use in your posts and I would have no problem doing it. A simple edit to the post loop in WP and it's there on every post.

SaucyPanties 2006-12-23 04:47 AM

My first dealing with you was not a pleasant one UW so hopefully this will be a better one. I have a blog, my husband has a couple. He is fairly new to blogging, I am not new but apart from writing a near daily blog with text and images I do not pretend to know too much else about them.

I would feel comfortable submitting to such an idea, I agree the more words the better quality. However, are we talking erotic stories, fact or fiction, most real blogs are pretty boring detailing the day to day life of a panty seller, first time lesbian or Dom. There is only so much you can put down so what is it you will be looking for, just well written articles, articles accompanied by a picture?

As for standards, 100 words is too little in my opinion, your initial thread on the matter must have 350+ words and it looks about right, too much text and you cannot be bothered, to little and your eyes just focus away looking for some eye candy.

NO to the free hosts, you can sign-up for 10 wordpress blogs in under 5 minutes. You get popular, you link to a blog post and the owner goes in and edits it to an affiliate, you black list them and they come back the next day with blog number 2. Leading me to a suggestion that the blog needs to have been running for 'X' amount of time.

One more fear: www.myblog-whatever.com has 100 posts, all 1 picture to affiliate splogs I beleive they are called? They write up a pretty good post of 300+ words and submit it. Is this acceptable??

docholly 2006-12-23 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walrus (Post 320583)
Personally, I think he's crazy for not requiring the following tag to be added to the tags you already use in your posts and I would have no problem doing it. A simple edit to the post loop in WP and it's there on every post.

good point!! Tags to UW's site would be good

walrus 2006-12-23 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by docholly (Post 320842)
good point!! Tags to UW's site would be good

Thanks but I did butcher the fuck out of the code! Hopefully others undstood the intent

Useless 2006-12-23 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walrus (Post 320583)
Personally, I think he's crazy...

Who, me? :D
I really don't want to make too many demands on my submitters. And I also don't want to them to look at the rules and ask themselves if it's really worth submitting to the site if they have to start hacking their source code. I think the single link from a quality blog is a rather valuable item, so I'm not going to push my luck. ;)

Of course, if anyone wanted to do that, I'm certainly not going to deny them the pleasure.

webpimp 2006-12-26 06:07 AM

I think this is a great idea and I'm sure you'll find many bloggers who would be happy to submit individual blog posts. If a blogger keeps submitting posts, they get multiple links to the same blog.

Setting the bar at 100 words would probably weed out most of the bs content. But this is a tough issue - how to determine quality-control standards for blogs. With galleries and free sites, the rules are very objective and quantitative: # links, # pics, etc. With blogs, you have to judge the quality of the writing, which will always be a subjective judgement to an extent.

As for free hosts, I use a free hosted blogging service so of course I think you should allow them. I figure that a good blog is a good blog, regardless of where it is hosted. But I don't run a big linklist or directory so I don't run into any problems that you guys have with submitters.

Those are my thoughts, hope it helps.

SirMoby 2006-12-26 09:13 AM

I would submit entries from a babes blog and a fitness blog. Most of the babe blog posts are between 80 to 150 words and the fitness entries can be pages.

Useless 2006-12-26 09:27 AM

Thus far, the blog post guidelines are as follows:

* No free hosts or sponsor hosting.
* The parent blog must be on its own domain. No blog hosting services allowed.
* The parent blog must be surfer/browser friendly. No pop-ups or redirection.
* A one time reciprocal link to http://www.----.com is required with ---- as the anchor text from the parent blog.
* Absolutely nothing illegal, ie Ch*ld Porn or Be*stiality.
* Submitted blog posts must be at least 100 words in length.
* WHOIS information must be public and truthful.
* Each blog post will be judged on its own merits, regardless of the stated rules.

I only commented out the URL because I'm constantly messing with the site and I don't everyone seeing my mySQL errors. ;)


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