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cow 2005-01-31 03:41 PM

AskJolene Business-case
 
After reading the thread of George http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ight=askjolene I just wanted to know how converting the traffic of Askjolene is by starting this little testcase.

What I did is this:
I bought 100.000 galleryclicks and I (already earlier) joined PayServe.com .
I am using 5 freehosted gallerylinks of PayServe.
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/10348/index.htm
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/8495/index.html
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/9951/index.html
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/5826/index.html
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/10392/index.html

By the way AskJolene is owned by PayServe.

Till now (after 24 hours) the stats are not too hopefull:
I received the following numbers on my posted galleries:
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/10348/index.htm 31-01-2005 130
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/8495/index.html 30-01-2005 1,157
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/9951/index.html --- 52
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/5826/index.html --- 34
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/10392/index.html --- 12

The corresponding clickthroughs in my PayServe admin are:
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/10348/index.htm --- 1
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/8495/index.html --- 12
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/9951/index.html --- 0
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/5826/index.html --- 1
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/10392/index.html --- 1

This means that out of about 1300 gallery-visits I got 15 clickthroughs to my sponsor........

To be continued !

GeorgeTH 2005-01-31 04:29 PM

...interesting |thumb

stuveltje 2005-02-01 02:32 PM

a little hint i know they get traffic from other peoples 404.that isnt the best traffic i would say

Nickname 2005-02-01 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuveltje
a little hint i know they get traffic from other peoples 404.that isnt the best traffic i would say

True, but the surfers still need to search for your gallery and click thru to it.....if you have a good targeted description askjolenes traffic is not that bad.....

stuveltje 2005-02-01 03:53 PM

oke i agree but how the hell you get targeting traffic with 404 from different people and domains?

stuveltje 2005-02-01 03:54 PM

its just a fact you get traffic from 404 also not targeted , for some it wil work for others not

Nickname 2005-02-01 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuveltje
oke i agree but how the hell you get targeting traffic with 404 from different people and domains?

They click on your link and they are somewhat targeted.....

stev0 2005-02-02 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickname
They click on your link and they are somewhat targeted.....

Yup... after they click on your link it's not really 404 traffic anymore :)

cow 2005-02-02 04:21 AM

I will do an update on my figures tonight.

Besides this I have got some support on my running program and I just added a few more galleries to it.
The reason for this is that the material I used in my program is also pretty much used by themselves (PayServe).

The galleries I just added are 5 gals promoting ****cash with amateurmovies.

The ones I posted are:
http://www.blinkingcow.net/galleries/2/indexaj.html
http://www.blinkingcow.net/galleries/1/indexaj.html
http://www.blinkingcow.net/galleries/4/indexaj.html
http://www.blinkingcow.net/galleries/3/indexaj.html
http://www.blinkingcow.net/galleries/5/indexaj.html

I hope this will convert to some cash !!!

Moo

cow 2005-02-02 04:30 AM

Quote:

They click on your link and they are somewhat targeted.....
I agree to that Nickname.

Oh and besides the traffic. Their support is great. They respond to their mail pretty fast and help you out with questions about searchwords and promotional material.

Moo

Nickname 2005-02-02 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cow
I agree to that Nickname.

Oh and besides the traffic. Their support is great. They respond to their mail pretty fast and help you out with questions about searchwords and promotional material.

Moo

Yea, ive found their support to be good too, and at 100k hits for 70bucks you should be able to squeeze a profit IMO, if you dont the gallerys and text links are not that good.....Ofcourse you can still be unlucky, and also some niches might do better than others on AJ, you just have to try different and compare |thumb

kristian 2005-02-02 06:58 AM

I do very well with AskJolene traffic. Too lazy/busy to pull up the stats however.

Try using galleries you create yourself.

cow 2005-02-02 08:53 AM

Thanks for your replies Kristian and Nickname.
This gives me hope again :-)

I just added a view extra galleries on there. They will be put to the listings as of tomorrow.
Of course I'll keep you updated on the stats on those extra galleries too.

Moo

cow 2005-02-02 02:01 PM

Update on my stats:

I received from AsKJolene:
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/9951/index.html 341
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/5826/index.html 198
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/10392/index.html 956
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/10348/index.htm 681
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/8495/index.html 1,475

Clicks to my sponsor:
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/9951/index.html 11
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/5826/index.html 6
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/10392/index.html 8
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/10348/index.htm 6
http://galleries.payserve.com/1/31192/8495/index.html 1

The totals:
total galleryclicks: 3682
total clicks to sponsor: 32

Tomorrow my other galleries will be active on AskJolene.
I'll keep you updated !!

Moo

GeorgeTH 2005-02-02 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cow
Update on my stats:
The totals:
total galleryclicks: 3682
total clicks to sponsor: 32

Tomorrow my other galleries will be active on AskJolene.
I'll keep you updated !!

Moo

That's not very promising...
Though, I guess some TGPs are doing worse - - - rephrase: many TGPs are doing worse!

edit: on average I get 1,000 - 1,500 hits/day from them without submitting... [I guess I make my galleries too spider friendly- LOL]
I still wonder how these listings are performing!?

cow 2005-02-03 08:04 AM

Quote:

That's not very promising...
Indeed.
I hope my other galleries will do better.

I heard that this ratio (about 1 visit to the sponsor on 100 galleryviews) is normal in TGP-land.

I'll keep you informed on the stats.

Moo

kristian 2005-02-03 08:34 AM

Cow,

I know what it's like to spend money and waste money. You just never know what's good unless you try it first hand.

In this case though, I really think a lot is down to your galleries. FHGs notoriously have lower click throughs than unique galleries. Those galleries are also pretty shit. If the designer came here, I'm sure he'd be pissed as hell, but that's mho. Added to that, teens are a saturated niche. I bet if you'd thrown up some original shemale galleries to, say Find A Shemale Lover, you'd have had better success.

So, imo, niche is hard to convert with (or even get clicks), galleries suck ass, and fhgs are really only worthwhile of you own a 50 to 100K+ site and you're growing the fucker.

Not trying be a dick with you, just trying to save you money in the future..

alvarez 2005-02-03 05:18 PM

nice stats :)

cow 2005-02-04 03:58 AM

Hi Kristian,

Thanks for your input.
I already had some contact about my campaign with the AskJolene people.
They really gave me some good advices.
A bit similar to what you are telling me.

Quote:

Not trying be a dick with you, just trying to save you money in the future..
You're not a dick at all. If I want to save money (or even make some money) in the future I need advices like yours.

Moo

cow 2005-02-04 04:01 AM

Oh and about the stats ....
I'll come back on this shortly.
I posted some new galleries on AskJolene and got rid of the ones mentioned before.
I'll post a complete update on my actions and stats this weekend.

Moo

cellinis 2005-02-04 07:11 AM

Hi!
I recently brought 250k from askjolene. And I must say that so far the results have been worth it.
My stats:
1st program for blowjobs 56515 hits for 11 galleries. 3% CTR to sponsor for 4 sales. Plus 6% clicked my free links at the end of the galleries and generated and additional 8 sales. (All revshare, so it'll take some time to get the money!)
2nd program for lesbians: 22412 for 7 galleries. 2.7% CTR for 3 sales (viva topbucks!) and 4% CTR on my free links at the end of the gallery for 3 sales and 1 video store purchase.
The only issue is that it took 12 days to generate that many hits. Is there a paid service that has more traffic?
Cellinis

cow 2005-02-04 07:39 AM

Hi Cellinis,

I got rid of the galleries of Payserve and I added 2 campaigs of 5 gallerylinks to my account.

One is a freehosted campaign of Topbucks with the following galleries:
http://www.freevideogallery.com/gall...evid=37338&s=0
http://www.freevideogallery.com/gall...evid=37338&s=0
http://www.freevideogallery.com/gall...evid=37338&s=0
http://www.freevideogallery.com/gall...evid=37338&s=0
http://www.freevideogallery.com/gall...evid=37338&s=0

The other is campaign is of Deecash with the following galleries:
http://teenpovfacials.com/hosted/tem...ts=NDY3OjM6MTQ
http://lookatmebitch.com/hosted/rave...ts=NDY3OjM6MTA
http://lookatmebitch.com/hosted/smok...ts=NDY3OjM6MTA
http://allnetworkpass.com/hosted/Ang...ts=NDY3OjM6MTU
http://myasianmassage.com/hosted/set3/?nats=NDY3OjM6Ng

OK, OK, again freehosted galleries from the side of my lazy ass.
I learned from the board that they convert less then original homemade ones :-(

I'll first try this and see what happens. In the mean time I will be building some homemade gals.

I still got 92.000 clicks in account, so I have got some time left to recover.

P.s. I must say thanks to the AskJolene supportteam. They helped me out by reviewing my campaigns. Great support !

Moo

cow 2005-02-07 04:28 AM

Hi Guys,

I have a little update on my AskJolene stats.
I have got 38000 galleryviews till now and the results are:
On the Deecash campaign I have got 1 sale (12,95) out of 342 hits to the sponsor.
On the Topbucks campaign I have no sales yet.
On the ****cash campaign which I also added a few days ago I only got a few downloads on the ****loader (35 cents), but this could lead to sales in the future.

On an average I have got 3 percent of the gallerytraffic that visit my sponsor, so the advice of the AskJolene team helped.

A few more sales would be nice though :-)

Moo

Meat 2005-02-07 05:18 PM

I love this, great info Blinkingcow and good luck with your tests I hope they produce some positive results for you and thanks for sharing the info

cow 2005-02-15 02:19 PM

My last update is as follows:
I changed a few galleries on the way that were performing real bad.
I have got 100.000 clicks to galleries. From this amount I had about 3.300 clicks to my sponsors.
From this traffic I had only 2 signups and a few ****loader downloads.
The 2 signups made me only appr. 40 Dollar. But these are recurring memberships, so in the future....
The ****loader downloads could also lead to some sales in the future.

The balance is negative:
Investment 70 Dollar.
Return 40 Dollar (till now).

But remember, I had some bad galleries in there.

All and all, I think AsKJolene has normal TGP traffic and they are charging a reasonable price for it. On big advantage is that you are certain that your gallery is linked to.

I just bought a new package of 100.000 clicks and I will try to optimize my galleries.
I have good hope this will make me some money in the future.

If I have shocking :-) news for you I will post it.

Moo

GeorgeTH 2005-02-15 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cow
The balance is negative:
Investment 70 Dollar.
Return 40 Dollar (till now).

I'm sorry, but for this result I would NOT pay!
Then again: so far I'm not paying for any TGP listings...


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