1st freesite review appriciated
 

Hello, i made my first freesite and i would like to hear your opinions, tips, hints etc. before i submit it.

The link is http://www.pimpace.com/fs/001/

How should i duplicate it? is
http://www.pimpace.com/fs/001/indexa
http://www.pimpace.com/fs/001/indexb
http://www.pimpace.com/fs/001/indexc
good, or what would be the correct way?

Thanks :D

Two things I see are one a hidden counter and two is your freehosted? These two things may cause you not to be listed :(

i can fix the first thing, but i can't do much about the second one for now :(

Aside from those 2 the MML mentioned, there is also a luck of nudity in the galleries, which isn't going to help you get listed wither :(

Lack of nudity as content pics?

You have 20 pics & I think she showed her snatch in one & I saw no nipple - we're in the porn business, so nudity is pretty much a must.

there is plenty of snatch and some nipples if you click thru they are just bad thumbnails :D but as MML said the free hosting will keep you from getting listed most places and counters are being banned all over the palce lately

Also that Anjali content is getting pretty overused IMO.

Ok, i removed the counter. And about the hosting it's not free hosting it's a paid one. As for the content i'll use the sponsor content for now.

Thanks for you replys :)

If it's hosted on BetaBrigade, it's hosted for free, correct?

Also, your banners are now missing & your enter link is 404 :(

That's Inccorect. If i don't pay for hosting that doesn't mean it's free, it's paid, the owner pays the hosting. There are no popups or banners or anything so you can't say it's a freehost.

Let's just theoratically say i wan't to pay your greenguys link list hosting for you, would that make it freehosting too? If so everyone would say it's on a freehost, right? :)

I noticed betabrigade got banned on some tgp's etc beacuse of this, but i don't think that's fair, BB is not about cheating and never will be. It's a comunity to help newbies learn exactly that. They teach us the right way how to earn $$$ without cheating and they do a great job too.

About the 404 i just duplicated my FS. I saw this tehnic used on other FS that were submited on big LL and i thought it's most suited for me.

So here's the correct link
http://www.pimpace.com/fs/001/b/
http://www.pimpace.com/fs/001/ba/
etc.

In the eyes of 99.44% of Link List owners, if you do not pay for the hosting, it is free.

Nothing is free - someone is paying something for the bandwidth & servers & whatnot. But of the webmaster that is building sites on the domain does not pay for the hosting costs, it's is considered free in my book. Sorry :(

Hey GG!

I am one of the captains of Beta Brigade, and I just wanted to clarify that BB hosting is not a freehost.

We (Netpond) make the investment into any webmaster who honestly wants to learn the business, of buying them a domain, and also paying their hosting for them (on CYBERWURX - not a freeserver), until they are able to make enough of an income to pay their own hosting.

I have 36 people in my platoon who are all working very hard to become the best adult webmasters they can be! Any "bad apples" are very quickly weeded out of BetaBrigade, as this is about giving webmasters who HONESTLY want to better themselves, and HONESTLY want to learn ... giving them an opportunity to do so.

Beta Brigade is no closer to being a free host than would be if I were to offer to pay YOUR hosting for this month. Would that mean that GGAJ would be on a freehost? C'mon GG! That is not fair.

Please feel free to contact myself, (ICQ 306088434) or meat (ICQ 3590283) if you have any questions at all about the Beta Brigade program.

Thanks for your time Bro! |thumb

I get an invoice once a month from National Net that I pay with my own money - this is what we call "Paid Hosting"

When the webmasters in BetaBrigade start getting & paying invoices for hosting each month, then they will also be on "Paid Hosting"

Until then, it's Free Hosting that another company controls & a lot of Link Lists have banned that type of hosting for years now.

Tell me, why would you give away completely free hosting? There's nothing in this for BetaBrigade as far as money? Links? Ads?

Our recruits have total cpanel control over the webspace exactly as they would with paid hosting. It "is" paid hosting, it's just the hosting is paid for them by BB.

I thought the problem with "free hosts" being banned was a: redirects and 404ing, and b: cheats using it because it's easy. BB is neither. It is NOT a freehost, it is giving total control through cpanel to the recruit. It's no different to reselling webspace, except not charging for it.

No there is no "added" links and ads. Everything on the pages is what the recruit put there. It is a "paid" account with full cpanel control. They just aren't being charged.

The recruits are exclusively promoting Netpondcash at the present time.

Well it's obvious I am talkin to a brick wall ... that is really too bad

I have devoted ALOT of my time to helping these individuals, and they are a great bunch. I would put my reputation on the line to tell you that they are not cheaters, but I can see I am wasting my breath ...

You see at Netpond our philosophy is to help each other to succeed, not every man for himself. I guess you have never taken a friend out who is down on his luck, and picked up the tab huh? Or even lent/given money to somebody less fortunate than you? :(

Greenguy, i don't agree with you.

The whole problem with free hosting started because of freehosts redirecting traffic, were stealing traffic, inserting invasive banners on the pages, and other things that freehosts tend to do ;) The BB hosting is bannerless, doesn't redirect any traffic, is pretty damn stable and fast, and is nothing like typical free hosting, but very similar to other styles of free hosting offered by sponsors which I know for a fact are approved by your link list and others

On top of that the guys using it regularly get their work checked, get guided and are constantly trying to make sites that follow your rules ... give you want you want etc.

Is it a case of "I pay for hosting so they should" ?

Its your traffic, and your site GG, so all I can ask is that you are looking at this objectively. If there is some other problem then let us know, because I know for a fact we are trying our hardest to work WITH you not against you.

Agreed! |thumb

I am not looking to cause any problems at all GG. I think once you get to know me, you will see that I am a decent guy, but I do shoot straight from the hip, and call it exactly as I see it.

Yes I agree there with LB.

REF: The whole problem with free hosting started because of freehosts redirecting traffic, were stealing traffic, inserting invasive banners on the pages, and other things that freehosts tend to do .




Now I understand that was the hole problem why free hosts are banned at may LL's? right? so if those problems are not the case in BB sites then so why ban em?

Why not work together and deliver the LL's what they want? Clean sites they and the surfers want and that make $$ for all? If the LL's request special rules or features on our sites im sure we can do it and work with you.



Now I know every LL owner has the perfect right to make his or her rules, but in this case since Greeny is so respected in the adult community and his rules (same as the banned sites lists) are so widely followed by many other LL owners I feel it brings also some responsibilities along to be fair and square and not just to ban for the banning sake, cause theoretically we can argue if that's now free or not till the end of the world. Why not rather work together and make things work so we all profit the way its supposed to be .

It just makes good business sense!

Haui sends saludos :)

I agree with u |greenguy|


Playing it like this only helps our industry.

I.E it puts X amount of webmasters into the position that if they want to further what they are doing they have to invest some $.

When they buy their own hosting, domains etc that 'stimulates our economy' lol.


|hammer

btw those freesite links you posted all take me to mobile pimpin. .

I know alot of webmasters that are on so called "free hosting" I have let alot of newbies on my server, bought them a damain name, and given them up to 100 gigs of bandwidth a month, some of us old timers when we find a newbie that impress us we go the extra mile for. I have never asked for anything in return, none of this here is my code, or hey put this link on your sites, and i have some burning almost 100 gigs a month, it don't hurt me or the server. BB is a great program for a newbie, it teaches them the right way, it makes it alot easyer on tgp and link list reviewers, because before a mission is submitted it is gone over. Why this got posted here I dont know, they have a captain that is a mentor, and they should of reviewed the site. We have a general rule, what goes on in bb stays in bb. As far as it being free hosting, it sort of is, and it sort of isnt, its more like paying it forward, they learn, they produce work they get hosting, they dont produce work and they could loose the hosting and there spot in bb. Before anyone gets anything I personally have to approve there work in bootcamp, these would of never made it past me and if they was submitted to there platoon leader it wouldnt of made it past them either. GG sorry to take up space on your board.
May all your hits be clicks and all your clicks be $$$

yes, sorry about that. :( I posted above the right ones. Since this is my first FS the first ones weren't meant to be clickable. They were just to show example of my question "how should i duplicate them" and link them together.

Here are the right ones again: :D

http://www.pimpace.com/fs/001/b/
http://www.pimpace.com/fs/001/ba/

word, no problem! I'd suggest having your enter link a little higher up.. on my laptop it's not visible without scrolling.

GG, I have always respected you and listened carefully to what you say. Your LL is one of the best and it is always an honor to be listed. I do have to respectfully disagree with you about the free hosting for BetaBrigade. Sarma happens to be one of the newer members who doesn't yet have the resources to pay for his own hosting. The guys at BetaBrigade believed in him enough to assist him. That isn't a free host - his pages have nothing on there but what he himself has placed. It won't lead the surfer to some unknown place, and it won't disappear next week or next month because somebody got tired of hosting all those sites for free.

Rather, a band of very experienced webmasters got together and have taken newbies (and some crusty oldies) under their wing and are trying to teach them to build sites that you (and other LL owners) would like to list. Yeah, sure.. some of these guys are using sponsor content for now, and don't pay directly for their hosting, but how else do you learn? And.. not all of the BB is using the assisted option or sponsor content totally.. I have been paying for my hosting for 2 years now, and own a good amount of my own content.

Y'all can be a tough bunch to please...

I really do love how all this is directed back at me because I'm the one that posted that it is free hosting, when like I said, 99.44% of the Link List owners that I know feel the same way.

No one called out Linkster when he said it was free hosting a few days ago:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=15763

sorry to throw you under the bus, Linkster - LOL |bus|

Hosting provided by the sponsor in exchange for the promotion of their sites & their sites only is still "free hosting"

Back 4 or 5 years ago when I banned free hosting completely, I had a lot of friends that ran free hosts - Rowdy being one & Condom's was still around as well. It really is too bad that a few bad apples ruin it for everyone, but I'm not gonna sit here & allow certain people to break the rules & not allow others to do the same. The same thing goes for the rules on counters, the rules on new windows - fuck, most of the rules that Link Lists have in place are based on a handful of people bending the rules of what are legit webmaster practices.

You guys are really beating a dead horse trying to convert me on this subject, because it ain't gonna happen.

It's very simple:
Buy a domain.
Put it in your name.
Get your own hosting.
Receive an invoice once a month from you host & pay them out of your own pocket.

Hosting is cheap - dirt cheap compared to 3 or 4 years ago. If you can't pay for your own hosting, you really should reconsider this as a business.

omg, I almost posted a picture of a dead horse awhile ago,. couldnt find any good ones tho ;)

Hi All. I'm apart of Beta Brigade also but I'm using my own paid hosting to submit once I knew it was considered Free hosting. I remember the days of free hosting and I even had some listed on your site, greenguy, before 2000. I even remember the days of condom. Those were the days I made good money. I've advanced from my free hosting days. Now I'm paying for my own hosting. Learning a lot from BB and from here of course. I understand your point about it being kind of like a sponsored free host. I just wish there was a way to help some of these newbies the way it was for the first Beta brigade. I was fortunate to be in on the first one and was able to transfer my domain to my paid hosting when the first one stopped. Linkster made a good point that when the first Beta brigade was over lot of the sites were redirected or disappeared. I guess I'm one of those crusty oldies that Pagan talked about. I'm glad this issue was at least discussed so we all know the reasons behind it. Thanks Greenguy.

GG, your voice carries a huge amount of weight. When you say something, it becomes carved in stone in some places. That doesn't mean you are a god of some sort, just a very well-respected, well-informed guy. I don't know Linkster as well...

As to the hosting, I found a great deal on mine.. I get 18 gigs of traffic per month and 100 gigs of space for about $60 per year. I will be turning my platoon on to my sources, believe me. I do have to thank you, GG, for being one of the ones to get me to make the move to paid hosting.

I just wanted to put my 2 cent's in. While I use beta brigade hosting on some things, I also have more then one paid hosting account.

I just want to make sure that just because it's netpondcash stuff it's not considered beta brigade hosting. Note, I do understand some is getting "overused sponsor content". But as a webmaster that pays for hosting and uses there own content at times. I don't want to be classified as a free hoster because I promote netpondcash.

I'm going to hear it |shocking| but I think the big issue, is when you get a bandwidth bill, you'll put out better stuff.

lolol, when i look at this thread i think all the netpond moved here ;)
Anyways nothing personal here, i just want to defend BB since i am working there. The hosting is completely "paid hosting" from cyberwurx. No steals, redirections or ads! So it must not be treated as free hosting. The recruits are just don't being charged for using the hosting! So LL owners please don't ban the guys submitting from BB domains, because doing so it some kind of killing the new generation of adult webmasters. We teach them there how to start and succeed and this business and if you consider the hosting as free and don't list them you screw up the whole thing, don't you think so? It is not only bad for us, for the recruits but and for you LL owners, because and you are loosing money from that ;)

You want to teach these people correctly? Have them get their own hosting like in the real world.

Have them buy their own content while your at it :D

I too have stopped listing Beta Brigade sites. I'm very very very sorry to do this but when the person submitting does not own the domain according to the whois there is no way to protect against that person submitting 3-4 sites a day under different names and emails.

Also I know BB is a good company but what if 1 year from now it is sold or the owner has a change of heart? That owner could 404 and 302 EVERY domain they "control" to dialers, toolbars and who knows what else.

BB should offer a 1 year registration free and then they host the domains. Same cost to them without renewal costs. That way the domain will be in the actual person's name submitting.

Well GG, they will do that for sure once they learn how to make out of this biz. Not everybody can afford paid domain, hosting and pay for everything from the beginning. Thats why we provide them these things. Once they start making money they are getting their own hostings and content and etc..and continue their work...but they just use the BB hosting for the things we teach them there. So in fact not only the hosting is paid, but LL owners can be sure that sites on BB domains are more valuable then any other, since we teach the recruits never to delete them, never change them, never popping them up..never cheating.. I hope you catch where i point to ? :)

The real problem in this thread comes that you are pretty reputable and respected in the biz, and once you say people should ban BB domains, i know there will be lots people to do what you say....which probably is not in anyone's interest...

I couldn't agree with you more !!!! :) :) :)

But I would love to see them make a few $ before they made the same mistake i did and jumped into submitting too early.

But I definitely agree with you GG ... having their own hosting will make them confront comercial realities :)

You guys are bashing me about a rule that's been in place since 1999 or 2000 - nothing you say is gonna change it.

Submit sites to me that are on hosting that you pay for or stop wasting your time & mine.

End of discussion.