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JoeA 2005-03-29 08:20 PM

OK... There's a prize on offer for
 
guessing the reason this gallery was rejected:

http://www.saharagetsdirty.com/TGP/12/10012.htm

All I can say is.. I pissed in my pants with laughter when I read the rejection email..

The dumbest answer could be the one.. So please try. The prize is... ????

emmanuelle 2005-03-29 08:31 PM

For passing off a lebanese girl as Indian?

:-D

JoeA 2005-03-29 08:47 PM

Emmanuelle
 
Ummm... No because Sahara is Anglo Indian... And I hope that was a joke about her being Lebanese :)

I can promise you no one, unless they work for the site who rejected it, will ever get the answer.. It really is the dumbest and best ever

amadman 2005-03-29 08:50 PM

maybe because the one video looking thing is not linked to a video?

ronnie 2005-03-29 08:52 PM

I was going to say the vid graphic not being linked also.

That Sari is not a real word?

Hey, whats the prize?

The top pics look like thumbs but are not linked? .html page instead of .html?

ronnie

MrMaryLou 2005-03-29 08:55 PM

Lack of nudity

Brav 2005-03-29 09:50 PM

Either not enough nudity or a misleading banner (blind link).

Useless 2005-03-29 09:52 PM

Reason1- The image map is all fucked up in Firefox. It looks fine, but I can click all day and not get the first video.

Reason2- Recips are on the bottom. I'm amused by submitters who think that those ugly recips are mucking up their beautiful page design.

Reason3- See MML's response.

Brav 2005-03-29 09:53 PM

Or you forgot to add the maps location for map61 and therfore there were only 2 movies when 3 is required

Head Boy 2005-03-30 03:21 AM

You've mis-spelt her name - the Sahara is a desert and not a girl. :D

HappySmut 2005-03-30 06:12 AM

maybe for improper meta tags?



lol

Head Boy 2005-03-30 06:19 AM

You're using the file name "msbanner1.gif" and Microsoft has everything with ms in it trademarked (including scams :) ).

Useless 2005-03-30 06:50 AM

Did I win anything yet? Joe? Are you there Joe?

JoeA 2005-03-30 07:45 AM

The winner is....
 
Mr MaryLou....

Sahara is a porn star as this listing: http://www.bgafd.co.uk/actresses/details.php/id/s0288 So why is there a need for nudity, when under 18's can access the 1000's of free sites on the net any way...

I did fuck up with the links to two of the clips but that wasn't mentioned in the rejection...

The recips at the bottom of the page aren't a problem as they are in view to the surfer when he see's the bottom of the gallery. He doesn't need to scroll down further.

As for recips being at the top as some sites DEMAND... I'm new to this side of the biz and I'd like to know why DEMAND ? Galleries are only listed for a short while yet remain live for a lot longer, so why should they be at the top. List a gallery permanently and your link can be at the top. We are trying to sell our pay sites and not promote listing sites.

One of the first lessons I learned when I started in the avs biz in Feb '99.... Don't have any banners to other sites on a tour in view to a surfer... Point him in one direction... Inside the site... So any banners I've used for other sites have always gone at the bottom of my pages since then :) Having a small script link is good for se relevancy. Any that I might use on my sites at the bottom of a page are to other sites of mine, which have good listings :)

Kezza 2005-03-30 08:22 AM

I am sure you have learnt a lot of things since you started... but a good thing to keep in mind... and you might like to write down in that list of things you have learnt...

If you want to get free traffic from someone... its best to follow his/her rules :D

Ramster 2005-03-30 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA
As for recips being at the top as some sites DEMAND... I'm new to this side of the biz and I'd like to know why DEMAND ? Galleries are only listed for a short while yet remain live for a lot longer, so why should they be at the top. List a gallery permanently and your link can be at the top. We are trying to sell our pay sites and not promote listing sites.

I'd bet if you could do a study you'd find more people click recips at the bottom than at the top.

When a surfer enters a gallery page they are looking for pics. They are not going to click the recip button at the top before looking for pics. As the surfer makes his/her way down the page looking at more pics they finally reach the bottom and you have either have a banner to the paysite or recip links to "more free porn". Hello recips, off they go.

I could be wrong of course :)

RawAlex 2005-03-30 10:25 AM

Joe, perhaps because you are showing a windows media player, which would make the clips appear not to be available for mac users?

Or perhaps the extra link off to your site on the copyright notice?

Lack of a 2257 notice?

Alex

Useless 2005-03-30 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA
Galleries are only listed for a short while yet remain live for a lot longer, so why should they be at the top. List a gallery permanently and your link can be at the top.

There are many TGPs that list galleries permanently on their archive pages. I list submitted gals on my TGP forever and ever on my category pages and rotate them daily. They only get deleted if they 404, redirect or the submitter calls me bad names on the board. (Hey, I'm being honest)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA
We are trying to sell our pay sites and not promote listing sites.

We're trying to promote our sites, not your paysites, so I guess we'll need to find a way to make it work for each other. We all took acception to some of the rules when we started, but once you just accept the system, it all flows nicely.

JoeA 2005-03-30 10:42 AM

Raw Alex and Useless Warrior
 
Alex

I posted the reason above your last post...

There wasn't enough nudity.... DUH.

All my galleries in the TGP folder have the same info on them and have been accepted. As I live in the UK a 2257 is not needed but the information is available on the main site any way :)

Warrior

Regarding the permanent listing of galleries by you and others... There is a simple answer...

Sign up as an affiliate to sites. When yo move a gallery to the archive, you could change the link to include your affiliate id, then you will make money that way.. :)

Cleo 2005-03-30 11:12 AM

You should start your own TGP and then you could have the rules just the way you like them.

How exactly would you propose that we would be able to change the affiliate code on a gallery?

JoeA 2005-03-30 11:16 AM

Cleo :)
 
As I don't run TGP's I don't know how your scripts are run, so I can't answer that question... It was an idea to help you who do run them make some money another way..

There must be a scripts guru who could come up with an idea of how to add the id :)

Cleo 2005-03-30 11:20 AM

I know that you do not run a TGP, it shows in the ignorance of your posts.

The only way to change the code on a gallery is to login to their server and change it. Ok, give me your FTP login info so I can go into your server now and change your codes to mine, all of them.

frankthetank 2005-03-30 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramster
I'd bet if you could do a study you'd find more people click recips at the bottom than at the top.

When a surfer enters a gallery page they are looking for pics. They are not going to click the recip button at the top before looking for pics. As the surfer makes his/her way down the page looking at more pics they finally reach the bottom and you have either have a banner to the paysite or recip links to "more free porn". Hello recips, off they go.

I could be wrong of course :)

i think you are right. i counted clicks on some sites and bottom links are much more often clicked... |thumb

frankthetank 2005-03-30 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo
I know that you do not run a TGP, it shows in the ignorance of your posts.

The only way to change the code on a gallery is to login to their server and change it. Ok, give me your FTP login info so I can go into your server now and change your codes to mine, all of them.

Nice idea, but I would prefer keeping my links in my galleries. Archieved galleries aren´t so bad, are they?

JoeA 2005-03-30 11:39 AM

Ummmm Cleo
 
Aren't the links listed on your site... Therefore they are on your server...

If you could add the affiliate id as I suggested then it would be carried through to the main site if you were an affiliate to a site who use CCBill as a cookie is dropped on the surfers pc... I even have mine set to 14 days, so if a surfer comes back within this time, the affiliate receives the credit.

I won't make derogatory remarks to you about being ignorant, as you obviously aren't a pay site owner and so wouldn't be expected know this. I don't know how tgp's are run except for the use of trading scripts to send surfers everywhere but where they want to go more often than not :)

You could simply have replied that there isn't a script for this, without being insulting and patronising :)

Cleo 2005-03-30 11:43 AM

It would be stealing to change someone's affiliate code to yours even if this was possible. Links to your galleries are on my server. The ads in your galleries with your affiliate code are on your sever.

BTW I do run a paysite, see my sig.

Useless 2005-03-30 11:55 AM

|popcorn|
This could get rough.

Head Boy 2005-03-30 12:46 PM

Joe, there are some well established concepts that have evolved and would probably stand up in a court of law. You must always remember that the traffic on the tgp circuit belongs to the tgps and not the gallery submitters. Many tgps get thousands of submissions every day, and they have to select a few from this mass (most of which break their rules). In addition, they have to guard against cheaters that steal traffic and install malware to change affiliate link codes and things like dialers. It is a privilege and not a right to even get a tgp owner to look at your gallery, let alone list it.

There are also some rules about surfers visiting your pages. The surfer belongs to the TGP until he clicks on your site. That click is then yours, but you mustn't do anything to interfere with the surfers computer, or to make it difficult for him to exit back to the invoking page. This means that you can't re-direct incoming surfers, you can only geo-select their outgoing links (and some sites don't like that either).

JoeA 2005-03-30 01:10 PM

Cleo...
 
Sorry, but it seems that I do need to stoop to your level, and to say that you are now showing your ignorance !!!

I own the site and therefore do not need to have an id in links to my own galleries. The galleries are hosted by me for my affiliates etc !!!

That's why I said that you should sign up as an affiliate and then you could legally add your id to any galleries listed in the archives... I couldn't give a flying f**k if you changed my original links to include your id, if I submit a site, and so helping you earn 50% of a sale. To me 50% of a sale is better than no sale :)

So... All you have to do is look at my sig and see that it's not one that an affiliate would use, but that of the webmaster who owns the site...

Your turn... :)

Cleo 2005-03-30 01:30 PM

We are talking about submitted galleries not sponsor hosted galleries that we add in ourselves. If you want to build and submit galleries then you need to follow the list site's rules. Their traffic, their site, their rules, it is not a democracy. It doesn't matter if you are the paysite owner or not. If you are submitted stuff you are just a submitter.

If you would like to start a thread about sponsor hosted galleries feel free to or just use one of the existing ones.

BTW is is ok to link the URLs in your sig. Do you need some basic html lessons or do you feel that using Paint Shop Pro 7 to write your html is a complete solution?

Brav 2005-03-30 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramster
I'd bet if you could do a study you'd find more people click recips at the bottom than at the top.

When a surfer enters a gallery page they are looking for pics. They are not going to click the recip button at the top before looking for pics. As the surfer makes his/her way down the page looking at more pics they finally reach the bottom and you have either have a banner to the paysite or recip links to "more free porn". Hello recips, off they go.

I could be wrong of course :)


I totally agree. I did some testing a while back, and when I placed recips at the bottom they received quite a bit more traffic then when they were at the top. I am more then happy to place recips at the top of the page, I never advertise up there anyway.

Useless 2005-03-30 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA
Sorry, but it seems that I do need to stoop to your level, and to say that you are now showing your ignorance !!!

I own the site and therefore do not need to have an id in links to my own galleries. The galleries are hosted by me for my affiliates etc !!!

That's why I said that you should sign up as an affiliate and then you could legally add your id to any galleries listed in the archives... I couldn't give a flying f**k if you changed my original links to include your id, if I submit a site, and so helping you earn 50% of a sale. To me 50% of a sale is better than no sale :)

So... All you have to do is look at my sig and see that it's not one that an affiliate would use, but that of the webmaster who owns the site...

Your turn... :)

Joe, I just made a semi-vow this morning to be a brighter, more cheerful person, but I'm finding myself forced to inform you that you are the only one who has shown any ignorance in this thread. If you can't figure out how the TGP game works, hire someone to build and submit for you. Bad attitude and intentionally ignoring the rules will only serve to get you blacklisted.

BTW, doesn't this thread belong in the TGP board? We are discussing a gallery after all, not a free site. Perhaps the newbie board would be even more appropriate.

JoeA 2005-03-30 02:22 PM

Oh Cleo....
 
I started this thread as a joke...

When you think of all the banned terms, words and phrases today, I found a gallery being rejected for too little nudity quite funny... YOU had to take it to another level...

You are the proof, that it is easier to negotiate with a terrorist than it is with a female...

Useless 2005-03-30 02:28 PM

Joe, I'm having a very bad day.

JoeA 2005-03-30 02:39 PM

Hey Useless...
 
I'll start by quoting you...

BTW, doesn't this thread belong in the TGP board?

Please read the opening post again, as it is about being listed, and as I have just said.. It was meant as a joke ... Cleo and others changed the subject..

As for being listed.. Apart from that one gallery being rejected.. As I don't ignore any rules, the other 11 I've submitted around so far, have all been accepted... So maybe I do know what I'm doing...

I look foward to the day when TGP and links list owners become webmasters with their own pay sites and then they will see the other side of the coin...

Cleo 2005-03-30 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA
I look foward to the day when TGP and links list owners become webmasters with their own pay sites and then they will see the other side of the coin...

I have run two different paysites since I've been in this biz and presently run FoxyAngel. I guess your day has arrived.

dareutwo 2005-03-30 03:11 PM

Sorry Joe, another bloke to add to the blacklist.
You created this thread, then insulted the answers given.
If you're not happy with the answers but change, it's called learning.
If you're unwilling to do anything about it, it's called stupidity.

This is a forum for learning and growing, not complaining.
Good luck with your future burger flipping career.

Useless 2005-03-30 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA
It was meant as a joke ...

You forgot to say 'Knock, knock'. :D

Greenguy 2005-03-30 03:20 PM

This has to be one of the oddest threads I have ever read :D

(and I'm the one that moved it)

Greenguy 2005-03-30 03:23 PM

Oh - have we established that there is no way of changing around the codes on someone else's server without hacking into it?


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