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Tubey 2005-08-31 08:46 PM

Gas Shortage
 
Hey everyone, I just drove home from work and every gas station I passed had a line of at least 10-40 cars around it trying to get gas here in Orlando FL. They are warning we may run out by friday and the counties are buying fuel from gas stations with tanker trucks. The schools are warning they may also be out by friday and that parents would have to drive the kids in to school. What a NIGHTMARE.....anyone remember Mad Max.....

Tubey 2005-08-31 08:57 PM

The news channel website is wftv.com

spookyx 2005-08-31 09:03 PM

I am glad i can walk to my office from home.... the next room ;)

Useless 2005-08-31 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by spookyx
I am glad i can walk to my office from home.... the next room ;)

I'm pretty glad that you don't leave the house too. :D

Tubey 2005-08-31 09:10 PM

Then again living in Antarctica, where would you go to anyway...

spookyx 2005-08-31 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
I'm pretty glad that you don't leave the house too. :D

|halfgabbo

2msacras 2005-08-31 11:00 PM

Im really glad I bought the car instead of the suv a few years back

Beachbum 2005-08-31 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubey
Hey everyone, I just drove home from work and every gas station I passed had a line of at least 10-40 cars around it trying to get gas here in Orlando FL. They are warning we may run out by friday and the counties are buying fuel from gas stations with tanker trucks. The schools are warning they may also be out by friday and that parents would have to drive the kids in to school. What a NIGHTMARE.....anyone remember Mad Max.....

Damn dude, this is getting way out of hand. Screw it! I'm gonna start riding a bike. |pimpin

sue-fl 2005-08-31 11:29 PM

No shortage of gas here.. |fart|

Sorry I spent 2 hours with a group of friends at the park tonight. It was all about gas prices etc. etc. on and on!! I'm not making light of all the gas trouble, saw this thread and thought eck! So just being silly.

If we could harvest the kind of gas above that goes on in my home you'd all be set for gas and it would be cheap...|peace|

MindyBlingBucks 2005-09-01 09:51 AM

I had to fill up my tank last night, and there were lines for an hour and a half after rush hour. . .

I don't have the option of riding my bike to work, or going into the next room, my job is 45 mins to an hour away, depending on traffic!! I don't even have a bicycle!

|cry|

RawAlex 2005-09-01 10:15 AM

Mindy, that is where you have to ask for a telecommuniting job! Working from home is the biggest gas and time saver you will every see.

No shortage of gas here, but at 1.349 per litre (about 4.35 converted to a US gallon) there is no reason for there to be a shortage. ;)

ALex

Jim 2005-09-01 10:34 AM

I watched the local gas station changed the price from 273.9 to 315.9/gallon yesterday. And yet, for some unexplained reason, diesel is still more expensive. I forgot to look today but I am sure it went up even higher overnight.

So, here is what I don't get. The gas in the station tanks is bought and paid for. So, why does the price go up before they need to resupply?

Surfn 2005-09-01 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim
I watched the local gas station changed the price from 273.9 to 315.9/gallon yesterday. And yet, for some unexplained reason, diesel is still more expensive. I forgot to look today but I am sure it went up even higher overnight.

So, here is what I don't get. The gas in the station tanks is bought and paid for. So, why does the price go up before they need to resupply?

Report them to your Attorney General's office, they are suppose to investigate price gouging.

Jim 2005-09-01 10:50 AM

It's all over the state if not most of the country

Calliope 2005-09-01 11:07 AM

When I left the office last night the gas station on the corner was at $3.49 - I stopped at Costco and it was only $2.69. Gotta Love that membership.

stuveltje 2005-09-01 11:58 AM

mmm i still wonder why shell raised the price for gas in holland this week already for the third time not to mention the 4 times of raising the price last month.

cd34 2005-09-01 12:05 PM

I was on a plane when the first Gulf War broke out. Gas was .99/gallon when I took off, $1.55/gallon when I landed.

Gas stations use average pricing, however, they also do anticipatory pricing. So, if they know the next tank is going to cost them 1.50/gallon, and the current tank was .80/gallon, they immediately raise the price to cover the 'new' tank cost.

However, due to some fluke in the economics, price drops do NOT filter down as quickly and take months to work in.

In some states, they are not allowed to raise the price until they get a new tank filled. Also, in some states the gas company cannot own any of the stations.

However, no matter what the gas station owners say (and I wanted to be an owner a few years back and am I glad I didn't do that), they are gouging because they can. Its a product that people need and no matter how much the customers bitch and moan, they will still buy gas.

Exxon did a ton of research to find out what type of advertising worked best to get people to buy their gas -- they determined that there are two factors that make their gas sell quickly. Company sponsored Gas cards or cheap prices. If you accept more people and get more gas cards out there, people will buy even if there is a slight premium because tomorrow's money is easier to spend than today's money.

Jim 2005-09-01 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cd34
I was on a plane when the first Gulf War broke out. Gas was .99/gallon when I took off, $1.55/gallon when I landed.

Gas stations use average pricing, however, they also do anticipatory pricing. So, if they know the next tank is going to cost them 1.50/gallon, and the current tank was .80/gallon, they immediately raise the price to cover the 'new' tank cost.

However, due to some fluke in the economics, price drops do NOT filter down as quickly and take months to work in.

In some states, they are not allowed to raise the price until they get a new tank filled. Also, in some states the gas company cannot own any of the stations.

However, no matter what the gas station owners say (and I wanted to be an owner a few years back and am I glad I didn't do that), they are gouging because they can. Its a product that people need and no matter how much the customers bitch and moan, they will still buy gas.

Exxon did a ton of research to find out what type of advertising worked best to get people to buy their gas -- they determined that there are two factors that make their gas sell quickly. Company sponsored Gas cards or cheap prices. If you accept more people and get more gas cards out there, people will buy even if there is a slight premium because tomorrow's money is easier to spend than today's money.

That does explain it Chris. :) I guess NYS doesn't have that law :) To me it is like selling cabinets. My future father-in-law (I hope) owns the largest library cabinet builder in the US. So lumber fluctuates much like gas. But, he does not raise his price because the next supply is more expensive. He just lets his clients know that the prices will be going up.

th3g4me 2005-09-01 12:49 PM

Diesel costs way to much right now. I am running Off-Road Diesel in my truck. It is way cheaper, but it is also illegal to run on a highway... 13 gallons costed $30.00 thats about $2.30 a gallon I guess. They only check large trucks any ways... (I hope)

Erick G 2005-09-01 12:57 PM

I got unlimited supply of gas :D
Syphon hose and late night fill ups |thumb

2msacras 2005-09-01 01:11 PM

lol Erick G...good luck with that

SirMoby 2005-09-01 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfn
Report them to your Attorney General's office, they are suppose to investigate price gouging.

Cutting into Exxon's profits is not a priority. Remember the AG's #1 priority is fighting obscenity. :)

SirMoby 2005-09-01 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim
That does explain it Chris. :) I guess NYS doesn't have that law :) To me it is like selling cabinets. My future father-in-law (I hope) owns the largest library cabinet builder in the US. So lumber fluctuates much like gas. But, he does not raise his price because the next supply is more expensive. He just lets his clients know that the prices will be going up.

I bet he didn't make a $25,000,000,000 profit last year either.

dareutwo 2005-09-01 02:04 PM

SE areas of the US will be hardest hit.
Fortunately we get gas from our friends to the North. (Canada)
4-5 bucks?? We may see it.
Welcome to reality.
Good thing we've had the technology for 100 mpg cars for years.
What are the Big 3 building this year???

plateman 2005-09-02 02:12 AM

yeah look at all those people who bought those SUV's fuck that, talked to a old race buddy who wants to buy my drag car and race fuel is 10.00 I think if I remember its 110 or 112 octane, glad its been a few years since I raced, here's a few pictures of my car and skis.. http://www.pornoplentyxxxlinks.com/car.htm

Tommy 2005-09-02 02:09 PM

I just bought gas about 20 mins ago

I waited on a 3 car line, really nothing

gas was 3.29 a gallon at hess

Linkster 2005-09-02 02:55 PM

Spent part of the day yesterday directing traffic when one station in town got a tankload of gas - it lasted about 5 hours and then ended up turning away another 400 cars that had been waiting in hopes of getting gas. We're supposed to see another tanker show up today sometime but not sure.
I dont work for any of them, but the gas stations around here are required to wait to see what their invoice is for tanks of gas before they can raise the price
The attorney generals of each state are the best to report the price gouging to - they will prosecute those operators - in Miss we are hitting them with 5 years in jail and a $5000 fine - and the atty general does definitely go after people for it here

Linkster 2005-09-02 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by th3g4me
Diesel costs way to much right now. I am running Off-Road Diesel in my truck. It is way cheaper, but it is also illegal to run on a highway... 13 gallons costed $30.00 thats about $2.30 a gallon I guess. They only check large trucks any ways... (I hope)

th3g4me - the IRS and Treasury Dept suspended that law today to allow anyone to use the offroad diesel (dyed-diesel) until the 15th of Sept on roads. Its part of some changes their making today to try to get more trucks with supplies to the coast here - but applies to the whole US

RawAlex 2005-09-02 05:10 PM

MOntreal price up to 1.479 per litre - somewhere between $4.60 and $5.00 per US gallon - and rumor has it going up another 20 cents per litre before the weekend is out. That would add another 60-75 cents US per gallon on there.

This is going to fuck up the economy all over... and there is one monkey at the top of the chain who didn't work hard enough to head this off.

Thanks Dubya!

Cleo 2005-09-02 05:14 PM

I'm guessing that this is going to start a whole new round of inflation if it lasts a long time. I remember 1973 very well. I'm just glad that I locked my mortgage in at 4.5% before all this happened.

RawAlex 2005-09-02 07:46 PM

There is a very good chance Cleo. We may be looking at the trigger that really does the economy in.

Whatever the outcome for New Orleans, I think this event has all but assured us to see a democratic president next. Bush is never going to hear the end of his "this isn't acceptable" while he wanders around in a chopper shaking hands and keeping people out of the field for photo-ops.

A truly ignorant little man far bypassed by the realities of the day.

2msacras 2005-09-02 10:23 PM

I wish you were right Alex but there's the 24 hour news cycle...and I think the general american public will forget about the republiccans mistakes....but I wouldnt mind to be proven wrong

RawAlex 2005-09-02 11:56 PM

No, this time I see even republican politicos in the area calling on Bush to move his ass.

New Orleans Mayor: No more press conferences... just work! He has the right idea.

Bush = lost in space.

emmanuelle 2005-09-03 12:18 AM

http://gaswatch.energy.gov/

This is where you can report price gouging

emmanuelle 2005-09-03 12:19 AM

Btw- I will not complain about our fuel prices. Not when my parents or guys like Chop have to spend hours sourcing 20 gallons to power a generator for a couple of days- and they're the lucky ones

Linkster 2005-09-03 07:34 AM

emmanuelle - thank you - that is exactly right - the politics of this can come later and for those that know me - free speech is something Im always for!
Right now is not the time to criticize or discuss politics - its time to take that time that you would spend arguing and go donate blood or something of your time to help - even just a little of anything will help right now

Tommy 2005-09-03 10:50 AM

Welcome back Linkster !!!!

Useless 2005-09-03 11:12 AM

I'm happier just arguing and complaining about it. Doesn't really require much effort from a guy like me.

Surfn 2005-09-03 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
I'm happier just arguing and complaining about it. Doesn't really require much effort from a guy like me.

You probably use methane ;)

Jim 2005-09-03 11:33 AM

I just filled my truck :)
329.9/Gallon
Gas...349.9/Gallon
So, 2 weeks ago, diesel was 25 cents/Gallon more than gas. This week, just the opposite. Strange but true :)


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