Need help with my sites cooless.com
 

So I bought hosting for my sites a few days ago but dont really know what type of sites i should make.

www.cooless.com
www.condomlesson.com

The current site design is just something i came up with a few days ago and not permanent. I have too much time on my hands |yawn|

im looking for a theme or something that fits. hit me up on AIM (toodum2getsum) or ICQ 15052107 |waves|

I'm not sure how the name cooless works for an adult site but what does it mean anyway? Less cool or a play on the word clueless in which case it would mean not cool at all?

I guess condomlesson.com would have to be used to sell condoms because it definitely has a negative connotation for a porn site.

He could always sell condomlesson to Meat or DK! hahahaa

How about a Planed Parenthood class getting out of hand for condomlesson.com

ROFL .. A new adult reality site in the making..

I like the first one, super clean and simple. Obviously it's up to you, it's your sites. Tgp's are going to burn more bandwidth, lower quality traffic, less sales and have to buy some traffic and trade to get it up there.

ronnie

Why would it be so unheard of to have a porn site that promotes safer sex?

I've said it before, I'll say it again: For better or worse, people *do* look to porn as instructional material and to get ideas how how to fuck. While it's nothing I can do anything about, I strongly disagree that our industry chooses to hyper-fetishize high-risk sexual behavior and generally shies away from barriers on the assumption that fans won't dig porn that has condoms.

Nothing wrong with promoting safe sex on an educational site, but on a porn site?

I'm not here to promote safe sex or birth control, I'm here to make money. Put the word condom in a domain name and you just shot yourself in the foot.

Unless its something like nocondoms.com

well i think your still shooting your self in the foot. You lose the domain names keywords..

I'm here to make money, too, but that doesn't mean I must do so in the least responsible way possible. It's a cop-out to say that *you're* here to make money, as though people who want to discuss business ethics just doing this as a fun stupid hobby and have no clue how to do anything. (This same shit comes up EVERY SINGLE TIME there is an ethics discussion: "Dude, I'm here to make money", inferring that "making money" means doing whatever it takes and being as degrading/inaccurate/stupid as possible.)

As I said, it may not be our stated objective, but porn sites *are* used as sex education for tons of teens and adults. People *do* look to porn for advice, ideas, and just curiousity of how it all works. Porn *does* effect so many people's perceptions of how the human body is supposed to work and look.

We smut-peddlers may not *want* to be sex educators, but we are.

I'm not saying that every site has to focus on teaching people about herpes and condoms and abortion, but it's really shitty to see people jump to slam the idea of a porn site that features condoms.

i don't think my creampie sites would work with condoms :D

Ah a new micro niche.

They start off the sex with a condom and it slips off during the action!

condom less on dot com

Those of us that were raised in the South must have been shorted in our sex education. I never remember my health teacher stating for extra credit go visit "cumfuckme.com" and write a report on sex, nor did my parents ever say "If you have questions about sex you don't feel comfortable asking us, please go check out some porn sites cause we think they will be able to clear things up for you."

I peddle adult entertainment...call it a cop out, call it whatever you want to...THAT'S what I SELL...and that's what I make money at...I DON'T teach sex education.

|haha

Creative!

There is no such thing as sex education in this country's public schools. There is "abstinence training".

Many parents do not talk frankly with their children about sex, they might do an anatomy talk and "save it for marriage", but almost no one I've met got accurate, positive information from their parents about sex.

You better believe that more than ever, teens and adults are looking to porn sites to figure out what on earth sex is and how it works.

As I said before, YOU ARE A SEX EDUCATOR, even if you didn't ask for the task and pretend you didn't hear me. It's nothing we can control, but we can control what sort of messages we send to people about sex.

Maybe it could be like cum slurpers of whatever that site is where they drink cum, except they drink it out of a condom. ewwww

LOL Anything else you feel the need to dictate to me about MY life and MY job?????? Just wanna make sure that I am meeting with your expectations! |yawn|

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but perhaps it's time to realize, that doesn't mean yours is the be all end all answer in the World. It's just that; YOUR opinion.

Was that a typo? Didn't you mean to end with ...yummy ;)

|jester|

No, it's an IRREFUTABLE FACT: people look to porn sites as places of sexual education and for ideas of how to fuck. I know, I know, FACTS are totally hard to wrap your tiny head around when you're so set on denying that you have ANY responsibilities whatsoever as a *cough!* adult business owner.

:D no it was definitely ewww. I can't get how anyone could like the taste of cum.. some guys should try tasting it themselves ;)
Not saying I won't have it in my mouth LOL Just not going out of my way to drink it...

Obviously you've never met any of my 8 children.

I hope you understand that you are a rare gem in that, right?

I can look around at my intelligent sex-positive friends with children and see good parenting, but it doesn't mean that John Q RedState is sitting his son down and talking to him about STI risks and symptoms, how to have safer oral, vaginal, and anal sex, and that it's okay if he wants to be queer or trans when he grows up. As saturated with "sex" as our society is, we're still in the dark ages when it comes to real-life sexual knowledge and levels of comfort with ones own sexuality.

Jusus H. Christ! Do you think the guy got his question answered?

wow, you guys got some imagination |bow|

im thinking of turning cooless.com into some daily bookmark type of site and for condomlesson.com some type of porn link list? |thumb

ahh i still dont know

There's nothing irresposible about running a porn site that does not outwardly condone the use of condoms, but I do think it's irresponsible to to actually promote the non-use of condoms and there's a big difference.

It's no different than advertising for cars where they show the drivers going very fast on winding roads because they are trying to excite someone into buying the car. They are not condoning speeding or showing the speedometer at 120mph but they are definitely showing the car doing things that most drivers can't do or shouldn't do because they would be unlawful. It's called effective advertising.

I used to bill my site as a "masturbation assistance program" *promoting webcams*.. and actually applied in Cali for a non-profit status. So you could really in a twisted way.. promote webcam sites using condomlesson.com as a venue.. give links on one side for the lessons (condom affiliate sites) and then have your Main THRUST so to speak being webcams where no condoms are necessary.

Just a round about thought..

OH I get it now, your opinion of me is supposed to matter to me! Gotcha...WRONG ANSWER again.

I just looked at his page again, and he explains on there that the domain was a drunken attempt at trying to purchase condomless.com but he didn't type it in correctly, and that's what he ended up with! lol

Oh yeah, I saw how he came up with the name, my question is once he made the mistake and decided to keep it, what is the surfer supposed to think when they hear the name?

I'm still wondering why anyone would think that Penis-bot is anything other than a gay site. Names are funny that way. The destiny of a site is determined by how the owner works it, not by the domain he types when he's shit-faced.

I've bought lots of 4 letter expired domains and use them for something that nothing to do with the spelling of the domain. Like you said it's all how you work it :)

I think you could make a very cool free site with condomlesson.com Why not ask sponsors for promo content with condoms, or more specifically, content that shows some hot babe putting the condom on? I know a number of guys who (Pavlovian, I know) get all excited to see the condoms come out because they know it means they're going to get some. It's something different, so don't listen to people who are so ravenously trying to hold up the same old porno standard of "condoms sucks".

I've never said that all adult sites need to devote lots of space to openly advocating safer sex. I simply see having condoms in porn as a wonderful and easy positive statement in itself, far more effective than having a drab text-only page about how Company X supports condom use.

Out of curiousity, where do you draw the line between "promoting the non-use of condoms" and just featuring content that doesn't use condoms?

I don't care if the content depicts condom use or not, because like I said, I don't see it as my place as a pornographer to promote safe sex. That's up to schools, condom manufacturers, doctors and public service organizations. I am selling fantasies not reality. If I show two people having sex on a website, it is my assumption that they were both tested and are mature adults and know what they are doing. They could be married for all I know, and if they are, making them use condoms for a photo shoot just to make a point seems ridiculous to me.

If someone is old enough to use a credit card and pay to view porn, they are also old enough to have a brain and some common sense. If you think that showing them images of people using condoms is going to make them use condoms, but stories about people dying from AIDS isn't, then I think you are naive and they're idiots.

Safer sex education is not happening in schools or public service organizations. The government does not fund anything that teaches anything other than "abstinence-only". If you're counting on the government to teach people about condoms and birth control and STIs, you've not been paying attention to the news from the last few years. Ideally, it would be great if there were trained sex education professionals that has actual medical experience that went around to schools and gave accurate and realistic information to young people about sex. However, even at the *best of times*, (I got sex ed in school with Clinton in office), the people teaching the material were the old sewing/home-ec ladies who could barely say penis without turning beet red, and surely weren't going to be able to tell me what my risks for contracting Hep C from giving a blow job, or how an abortion is performed if I chose to terminate a pregnancy.

By that logic, would you promote an erotica site that specializes in stories about raping children? I mean, that's "just a fantasy", right? Again, it's just a cop-out: "I'm selling fantasies, I'm here to make money". So is everyone here, but that doesn't mean we should cast off any sense of ethics in the name of making a quick buck.

That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If turning 18 magically gifts people with "common sense", then how come the news is filled with adults who do ignorant/malicious things? From the Bush administration to a local rapist to Darwin Award winners to the girls who takes *a* birth control pill every time they has sex, adults make mistakes constantly. Turning 18 means nothing, especially when their previous years were filled with purposeful misinformation about sexuality.

I'm naive? If your argument held any water at all, it would mean that every person who is aware of deadly STIs would always practice safe sex, otherwise they're "idiots". Here's something I just Googled from the AMA site: "More than 60 million Americans are currently infected with an STD, and about 19 million new cases occur every year." Do you think that *none* of those 60 million people has ever heard of STIs, or were under 18, and therefor, had not yet gained "common sense"?

Keep sticking your head in the sand, maybe one of these days your own daughter will come home with a bun in the oven and syphilis because her boyfriend thought condoms are unsexy and she learned in school that they don't work anyhow.

I believe that we smut-peddlers have a responsibility to our viewers. Many pornographers have the mentality of criminals, in that they advocate doing whatever it takes to make money, and then they're shocked that the government treats us as criminals.

People in our profession need to realize that we do influence people with what we *tacitly* advocate on our sites. We may not be telling people how to have sex in big blazing text, but porn does weigh on what millions of people think of as "sexy" and "desirable".

I don't see how you can deny that people are influenced by the things they see around them: be it porn, movies, music, nature, family, or whatever. If it's not through what they read, experience, or watch, then how do *you* think people make up their minds about things? You could probably win the Nobel Prize if you find a way to refute everything that has been established in the fields of psychology and sociology, so please, let me in on your insights into the human mind.


The "sexual problems" in our world are too multifaceted to boil down to saying that the "solution" is using condoms in porn. I'm not saying that at all. I believe that porn does a great deal of good when it comes to getting people off and having fun, being an outlet for people who can't otherwise express their sexualities, making people see that others share their kinks, and igniting more personal passion or passion in relationships. I'm not the anti-porn crusader that you try to peg me as, but I feel like our industry does have problems that should be discussed and critiqued from within the industry. Porn can be better, it can make us money, it can provide people with awesome entertainment, and it is entirely possible to do so in a socially responsible way without that much more effort.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree because I have no interest in continuing this conversation. Obviously neither of us is going to be able to change the other's viewpoint and I have better things to do. Frankly, I think you're in the wrong business.

As for your question about my selling fantasy and then asking if that meant I condoned child rape, you're being ridiculous and offensive. Good day.

If you think convincing me is tough, maybe you should have a chat with Larry Flynt.

"Market testing -- and conventional wisdom -- tells us that films that feature actors wearing condoms don’t sell. That means that forcing condom use on the industry is more likely to have a negative rather than positive effect on HIV protection. It would drive the industry underground or out of state to where there is no testing, let alone a condom requirement. The net result would surely be more HIV infections."

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...ry.asp?ID=2122

Way to address all my points.

I might not be in the majority, but I make a note to not do business with people who openly advocate "anything to turn a profit", because who knows where you people draw the line. I find it perfectly sound and reasonable to ask if you would promote "fantasy" child-raping erotica, because from your criminal mentality, it seem like you would if there was money in it for you. I also wouldn't put it past you to rip off affiliates and customers if you're all about making money and rejecting all senses of business ethics. It's a slipperly slope, being an outspoken champion of making a buck for yourself at any price, and I'm surely not the only one paying attention to your posts.

That's fine. I think you're the kind of person who is purposefully ruining this business and giving honest and ethical adult business owners a bad name.

I find it offensive to see you peddling your arrogant, dangerous, amoral me-first philosophy that making money is more important than anything else in this world.

Anyone have a rubber to put on a cucumber?