Dudes, where's my SE traffic?
 

Well, every now and then I hear another LL got some kindda SE's penalties or something, or even banned in google or yahoo.
Linking to such LL's by placing their recips IMHO probably leads to unfortunate serp's for the freesites.
As I keep placing their recips it affects to the whole domain, don't?
seems submitting freesites to some LLs may cause SE traffic to be disappeared |angry|

|potleaf|
so how do yer think bros does sucha problem really exist? |confused|

its called linking to a bad neighborhood and I do believe it exist

Although I don't think it should

I would say the same simpler.

GG you, dirty pidor and fucktard, got some kindda SE penalties or something. So, bros, lets put off existing backlinks to his racist LL and don't submitt FS in the future, 'cause his fucking recip affects to the whole domain and you'll get pentalties, or even ban in google or yahoo. :D

Who are you, stupid? |crazy|

You've been told already that I'm the Greedy Asses Herd's Nightmare. :D

How did you figured these words out in such way?|crazy|
You need take a rest:D

Sure I am not so advanced in the art of sensless threads as you are.

But my friend Ziggy Stardust, mighty spider from Mars and great adult board suicide teach me how should I get it right.

Have some more |potleaf| It won't make any more sense, but you won't care.

Sorry, looks like your friend Ziggy Stardust fucked up one of the lessons:D

I really don't think topicstarter has meant link-o-rama in that case, probably he told us about some shitty worthless LLs...
But who knows....let's ask Waka-Jawaka what actually he has meant|confused|

Ziggy The Best!
Maybe. maybe... but you have to recall that I understand russian and can read bullshit out there :D

Russian message board is your home :D You will always read it :D

That's adding insult to injury. I've never been so insulted. |cry|

Well, I see one more endless story begins. That's why I'm here.

You are always welcome!

You read it because you can't live without it, it's very simple my friend :D I don't see anything bad here, every person loves his home :D

Well, ok it means that I am not stupid racist and dissolute pidor any more. We are brothers in arm now, right?

OK.

If we are brothers I just MUST ask now - dudes, were's their SE traffic?

All people are brothers and sisters |buddy|

What a fuck is going on here?
Guys both shut up for a while...

LOR got penalties?! Thanks god I have not been submitting there for months ;) |shocking|
LOL |jester|

Well I just see fellows over here trying to submit 30 FS a month to 100+ LLs.
Definitely there WILL be those shitty worthless LLs among them.
Generally, HOW MUCH threat it has for domain's SE ranking if i set links to sites (LLs) with some "bad reputation" in SE?
Hope i said it in the right way |huh

Why? We are together now! Lets fight these burguosious pidors stealing our SE traffic to the last drop of our blood, to a finish!

Yoda, what are you fighting for? I mean what's your final task? I guess you going to expose all the cheaters here and there, and what next? You going to cut their heads off with your lightsaber... This part of the forum named as "Link Lists & Getting Listed", not "Yoda's sarcasm and cheaters exposing".

The sky is blue, grass is green, cheaters are cheating, owners blacklisting them, good site builders keeps submitting and everyone has their own experience to do their job. No one needs two weeks of your sarcasm, it's getting bore. Put your sword in your ass and take a rest.

Dear sirs/madams/yoda sorry for my poor english.

You're the Nightmare? I'd rather said you're a Wetdream |waves|

Good words. I'd rather talk to cheaters in the "Possible Cheaters" part of this forum but paradox is that they are mostly starting topics here. Those russians so headlong and I can nothing do about it :D

I don't even know how to start to reply to this thread |crazy|

I always thought that submitting free sites to link lists was so that you got traffic (and hopefully sales) form the link list's traffic.

If you're doing it solely for SE gains, then maybe you need to work a strictly SE approach & forget about free sites & galleries.

On a personal note, my traffic took a shit form Google same time last year & it built itself back up over time & I see no reason why it won't build back up again (same thing every year - I'm getting used to it)

Yoda's starting to get on my nerves.

That's pretty much my take on building freesites for LL and galleries for TGP's. If you do get SE traffic from it, that's just gravy, but that's not the main reason you submit.

Building galleries for example - If you build one gallery, duplicate it a few hundred times, and submit it to 1000 TGP's...google isn't going to index those pages as they would a site that doesn't have that linking or duplication. Again, you'll get some SE traffic, but not like you would with pages specifically designed for SE traffic.

So...if you building purely for SE traffic I think you should do that.

You said that much better than I did :)

I must agree with Mr. Blue |thumb

Do SE stuff on your hubs.

Yeah , lumpy gravy ...
You're quite right :D
But almost a half of all sales last month I got from those old freesites that do get a certain amount of SE traffic.
So it is not out of place to have some SE trafic on freesites. :D

Hi People

If I understood it well, the best is to have at least:

1. Some domain for only free sites submitted to ll.
2. Some domain for only galleries submitted to TGP.
3. Some domain for only AVS.
4. Some domain for a site maked thinking only in SE.

OK?

Talleyrand

Waka-Jawaka, unfortunately there are some linklists who delete links after some time. So the profit for SE is only for short time period from these linklists. The only reason to submit to linklists like that is traffic.

You dont believe "linking to a bad neighborhood" may afects to the WHOLE domain?

I have no way of knowing if your hubs are bad neighborhoods?

|thumb

Let me say just a few words inspite of I'm starting to get on the nerves.

You want it and you'll get it. One more long senseless disscusion regarding rules of yours LLs. The bottom line will have to be the same as in the thread regarding banned hosts and hiden rules.

It was absolutely clear from the very first post in this thread.

Surfn, he asked about SE:
May it affect to your domain if you have links to penalized sites?

I think that it doesn't affect, although you never know. You could do an experiments.

And I have small addition to the problem: you also put links to paysites on your freesite and some of these paysites can be penalized too.

You definitely get SE traffic from submitting to LL's. I just think there's better ways to get SE traffic than just freesites. I think if you wanted SE traffic from freesites there's a few things you could do. If I were to come up with a working theory on it and this is just speculation on my part, but:

1. I'd think submitting to fewer LL would eliminate the duplicate page penalty. I mean if you only had 1 page, 16 recips, and it wasn't duplicated...you'd definitely remove that penalty.
2. The 16 LL's with the highest PR, that will list you regularly, and that will keep you the longest.
3. Writing a shitload of sales text for spider food.
4. Interlinking all the pages with in the freesite and having it link back to your hub.
5. Using different templates for every submit - as the same template structure might come up as a duplicate page.

I don't think you'd get "penalized" for linking one site that might be getting a google penalty. I think if the domain was banned at google that might effect you more. So, just check if the domain is banned/blacklisted at google, if it isn't, I wouldn't overly think about it. Especially if you're submitting to a small list of LL's.

Right now I submit to 22 LL, I'm thinking of dropping down to 16 LL to see how that would play in the SE/PR/Serp thing :)

I just don't know. I was looking through some of my sites last night, on one my /1/ mirror was PR0 yet the /2/ thru /4/ were PR2 and the PR0 site had the highest PR receips and the site is listed at all but one LL so their not dead links. It just seems to be more of a crapshoot than anything. Regarding link trades I really don't believe my hub LL deserves a PR3, I've got a lot of hardlinks on it, but have not asked for trades yet because it's not ready so I know that most of the links listed there aren't recip links.

If anyone ever figures out the real formula, please let us all know.

As for google PR, for some time I consider it belongs mostly to the Public Relation stuff. :D