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SE hits to my freesites just keep on growing. Over the past year and a half I've submitted to some 150 LLs (currently down to about 24). Right now Google is my #5 referrer and Yahoo is #10, both ahead of some pretty big LLs that I submit to (and get accepted at) regularly.
Once a freesite has been out there for a month or two it usually picks up some PR and I have plenty of freesites with PR3.
The only SEO I do is put up some relevant text, make sure all the metas are matching and use and tags and such. I don't know what else I can do, but the SEs seem to notice. :)</div>
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<div>I agree, I have some older free/avs sites that get good SE traffic, just saying most free sites I see, little to no SEO, or very badly done.<br />
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<div>when I make my free sites I was going to put in some flies for the spiders. like tagging all pics, and using a decent amount of text in the index and gallery pages.<br />
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lemmy, do you tag all your pics?<br />
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ronnie, by very badly done do you mean an elementary approach to SEO, or a lack of approach entirely?</div>
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<td class="smallfont" align="right">2006-03-16 12:36 PM</td>
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<div style="font-style:italic">when I make my free sites I was going to put in some flies for the spiders. like tagging all pics, and using a decent amount of text in the index and gallery pages.<br />
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lemmy, do you tag all your pics?<br />
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</div>Every pic gets an <alt> and most links a <title> tag. I don't know how much it matters to the SEs, but it would be silly not to take the 2-3 minutes to get the most out of your efforts.</div>
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<div>With the new wordpress 2.0.x, the tagging is pretty much an automatic process, and a good one at that. You can really boost up your keywords and target phrases that way.<br />
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If you really want to make blogging work, try to take on subjects you feel strongly about, things you are able to natually talk about without sounding like a moron. If you have to spend too much time "learning the lingo" people will long since have tuned out. <br />
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It takes time, but you can develop some decent ideas with blogs.<br />
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blog what you know, blog what you feel strong about. blog about things that touch you close, because those are going to be the entries that have real commentary people want to read.</div>
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<div>boogie, in your experience, are people really that interested in the bloggers commentary? I know there are intellectual surfers, but aren't they more interested in jerking off?</div>
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<div style="font-style:italic">boogie, in your experience, are people really that interested in the bloggers commentary? I know there are intellectual surfers, but aren't they more interested in jerking off?</div>
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</div>What is a blog, if not nearly 100% commentary?</div>
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<td class="smallfont" align="right">2006-03-16 05:49 PM</td>
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agreed. I guess it's just the amount of commentary they read that I was questioning. <br />
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Useless Warrior, have you measured the average amount of time spent by surfers reading your blogs? My guess would be that different niches are more prone than others for long reading periods, probably due to the commonality of the subject matter. <br />
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More common themed blogs have less attentive readership?|confused| <br />
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</div>A picture gallery dressed up in fancy software!</div>
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<div style="font-style:italic">boogie, in your experience, are people really that interested in the bloggers commentary? I know there are intellectual surfers, but aren't they more interested in jerking off?</div>
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Bloggers are definately interested in the commentary, if its short, sweet, easy to read.<br />
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I do think some folks read those three page enties some folks write but its far and few between.<br />
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<td class="smallfont" align="right">2006-03-16 08:09 PM</td>
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<div style="font-style:italic">I do think some folks read those three page enties some folks write but its far and few between.</div>
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</div>That would be me! <br />
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But I must admit only a few actually read my crap. <br />
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My other blogs which are much more to the point convert better.</div>
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<div style="font-style:italic">Useless Warrior, have you measured the average amount of time spent by surfers reading your blogs? My guess would be that different niches are more prone than others for long reading periods, probably due to the commonality of the subject matter.</div>
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</div>I would have to assume that no one reads them. I have installed Word Press on on three or four domains and they mostly look like this <a href="http://young-whore-wives.com/" target="_blank">http://young-whore-wives.com/</a> :D I'm a blogging guru. Can you tell?</div>
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<div style="font-style:italic">ronnie, by very badly done do you mean an elementary approach to SEO, or a lack of approach entirely?</div>
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</div>Elementary and even no thought of SEO. Probably the biggest is little if any text.<br />
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<td class="smallfont" align="right">2006-03-17 10:14 AM</td>
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<div style="font-style:italic">I would have to assume that no one reads them. I have installed Word Press on on three or four domains and they mostly look like this <a href="http://young-whore-wives.com/" target="_blank">http://young-whore-wives.com/</a> :D I'm a blogging guru. Can you tell?</div>
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</div>Once the SE's hit your blogs, you'll be in the money! With text entries like that your sure to be on top soon..:)<br />
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Hey, thats the first step, getting it installed and working.<br />
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<div>It is possible to get a sale per day... you have to be dedicated to it. At this point I am making a decent "beer fund" money from my blogs. (2)<br />
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It's not even so much as traffic as it is the time and links you continually put out there. A click happy surfer will go through almost all of your links until he stumbles across something that makes him say "Wow... I HAVE to buy that!"<br />
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Just be careful about giving away too much "free porn"... I have seen that less is more... it really works.<br />
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It's not even so much as traffic as it is the time and links you continually put out there. A click happy surfer will go through almost all of your links until he stumbles across something that makes him say "Wow... I HAVE to buy that!"</div>
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Ding ding ding, we have a winner.<br />
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Now you have the basis of this business. keep em busy doing shit until the urge to buy strikes.<br />
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Porn is an impulse buy, its been said on this board before, keep em reading until the urge hits em.<br />
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more things to view, more things to click, the longer they stay, the better your chance of that urge hitting them.</div>
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<div>If you really know what you are doing and spending that much time you can accomplish that in only a few days.</div>
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<div>damn, i must be a real stupid fuck then</div>
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</div>You've made 6 posts in two years here with half of them just to introduce yourself. You can't even pull off a good sig. Sorry if we aren't impressed by you. Mind sharing your extraordinary knowledge of blog marketing with us, or are you just all talk?</div>
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</div>Agreed. That is precisely why I am devoted to this 6+ hrs a day for as long as it takes to reach my sales goals.<br />
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I wish. I am EXTREMELY|banghead| eager to start making and submitting FS, I just can't seem to get my FTP client configured properly and feel like an imbecile. As soon as I do though; which will probably be this week, I will be making and submitting sites like it's going out of style. I have 17 months to make my sales goals and will work as hard as I have to until I acheive them.<br />
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</div>Boogie, I have a dream of making a large site that will have a lot of things to do and see, with porn comprising about 10-20% of the site, do you think this is a feasible idea to implement? I mentioned it on another forum and they said "porn and mainstream don't mix" but I see porn and mainstream mixing all the time|huh When someone says something can't be done that's just a reason to try harder and make it happen.</div>
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<div style="font-style:italic">You've made 6 posts in two years here with half of them just to introduce yourself. You can't even pull off a good sig. Sorry if we aren't impressed by you. Mind sharing your extraordinary knowledge of blog marketing with us, or are you just all talk?</div>
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</div>Well I don't appreciate your attitude and your name seems to say it all. The frequency with which I post here has no bearing on my knowledge or my business ventures or my success at them.<br />
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I made a sig too large accidently. It's been remedied since. Your board name seems to imply a lot about your online persona, but that is as far as I'll delve into childish ad hominem exhanges.<br />
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If you had shown tact in your reply to me I'd be more inclined to give advice. Despite the obvious disrespect I will still answer you in part.<br />
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In blogging, content is king. RSS is your friend. Submit your feeds to *as many places as possible*... (edited out) If you already have existing sites with decent PR you can and will be indexed (edited out) in 1-3 days with *smart linking methods*(edited). Your RSS feeds and ping list will also help you *TMI*(edited). <br />
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When you start a blog, add posts and edit the timestamps to older dates *TMI*(edited), also providing a much larger initial content base for when you are actually ready to launch. The further back the better, but it depends on how much content and initial work you wish to put in.<br />
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*Build a sitemap*(edited out entire paragraph for TMI)<br />
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Use a good balance of strong tags, links, h1/h2/h3 for what you would like to appear important to the search engines, *TMI*(edited out. My biggest suggestion for you is to NOT link directly to a sponsor or use your blog as a tgp. (Too much good info edited out) Include thumbs if you like or pictures here and there, but the driving force behind blogs is text. Make your keywords count. *TMI* (edited)<br />
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Keep tightly defined categories if your blog is niche specific and avoid extraneous or irrelevant posts. *TMI*(rest of paragraph edited out)<br />
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Your permalink structure is up to you but I would advise against using dates as part of it as it dilutes the relevance of the rest of the URL.<br />
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Interlink, cross reference, use good anchor text for links, and build build build. You can add updates to show up in the future and I suggest you use that feature to display *a few*(edited) new posts a day. If you want to do more, fine... If you want to do less, fine. *TMI*(edited a lot out)<br />
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Exchange links with (edited out) different types of sites within the same niche (edited out). Don't have too many outgoing links. The more inbound links without requiring a recip the better. *TMI*(edited)<br />
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That's all I'll share for now. I would have probably shared more if you had a different attitude. I took out half of the info after writing it and removed any references to anything specific.</div>
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</div>I've had a change of heart and will repost the unedited version of my original post in a seperate thread.</div>
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<div style="font-style:italic">Well I don't appreciate your attitude</div>
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</div>Really? I somehow thought you would.<br />
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<div style="font-style:italic">and your name seems to say it all.</div>
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</div>Wow. Very original. Tell me friend, do you think that someone whom names himself 'useless' minds if someone insinuates that he is useless?<br />
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<div style="font-style:italic">The frequency with which I post here has no bearing on my knowledge or my business ventures or my success at them.</div>
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</div>Unless you have a one of those names that transcends space and time and the cyber boundaries of the boards you do waste your time on, then community activity is all anyone has to base your knowledge on, especially when you post basically empty replies such as, "If you really know what you are doing and spending that much time you can accomplish that in only a few days."<br />
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<div style="font-style:italic">Your board name seems to imply a lot about your online persona, but that is as far as I'll delve into childish ad hominem exhanges.</div>
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</div>Redundant statement, thusly ignored.<br />
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<div style="font-style:italic">If you had shown tact in your reply to me I'd be more inclined to give advice. Despite the obvious disrespect I will still answer you in part.</div>
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</div>And this is where you go on to inform us all about your secret blogging knowledge, which is all shit active board members would have already learned in this forum.<br />
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<div style="font-style:italic">That's all I'll share for now. I would have probably shared more if you had a different attitude. I took out half of the info after writing it and removed any references to anything specific.</div>
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</div>Are you still talking to me? If so, why? If you had a better attitude, you wouldn't have originally posted that empty statement which, after reading your newest post, is still bullshit. I'm sure you're hiding a secret tutorial somewhere behind lock and key that instructs the user how to make at least one sale per day - every day- within just a few days of launch, but I fear we lowly GG&Jim members will never get see it.</div>
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</div>Damn that was just plain funny!<br />
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Uno, I can hardly wait for this expert analysis, unedited. I sure hope it provides me with some yet unfound secrets to blogging and not just another verbose commentary that boils down to think about SEO on your blogs, submit your RSS feeds everywhere, work the blog directories, aggregators and topsites, and work link exchanges with bloggers in similar niche's. Oh and lets not forget that if you have an established domain, especially if it's niched right, build your blogs on it cause the spiders have already found your domain.</div>
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