Crossdressing sites - Who accepts them?
 

I'm looking for link lists that will accept crossdressing free sites. On the average links list site I dont know what category in which to post.

They are not gay sites, they are not shemale, they dont come under asian, big tit, or any of the usual categories.

So then, any link list owners got a suggestion or two? Categories or link lists, I'm open to all ideas.


(If this post is in the wrong forum please move as appropiate, and spank my soundly :-)

I've never seen a transvestite category either. I think that is because there isn't a living soul who is attracted to them. ;)

I'm not sure how or where they'd fit in to standard category page.

The average man who looks at crossdressing sites isnt gay, transvestite or otherwise. He's usually a straight man, often happily married (and with his partners consent) likes to occasionally try on ladies underwear.

Obviousely some crossdressers like to go the whole way and take their habit outdoors to the supermarket or where-ever in public. But the average visitor to my sites is re-visiting his earlier years when raiding a female's "naughty drawer" and trying on some frilly or satin undies, and getting a hard on :)

Now tell me how many men havnt done that at some point in their dark and mysterious past :-) Be honest :-)

Back on topic. Any sites link lists accept crossdressing sites as a niche of its own? Or an appropiate niche to submit them to?

I would think that most crossdressers would want to look at pics of woman or trannies but not cross dressed men.

Gay men would not want to look at pics of cross dressed men.

I don't know any woman who would get excited looking at pics of cross dressed men.

Maybe priests would want to look at pics of cross dressed men since the word cross is in there and priests are sick fucks anyway.

:D

Okay, to get a feel of what crossdressers are doing, posting, and looking for .....

Do a search for some adult yahoo groups with a crossdressing theme (there are literally hundreds). Join a few and look in the members photo sections.

Viola. You can now instantly speak french (very unlikely) or you have just discovered the PixieDress world (crossdressing to the uninitiated).

Do we have any linklist sites that will accept crossdressing free sites? What category to list them under?

Thats a very good question, who would be best to target for this niche. I would have thought shemale catagory, but others have pointed out, maybe thats not the best match?

I've thought about starting a cross dresser catagory, but for one finding a sponsor to promote and more importantly, how many people build these types of sites. I've only seen one sponsor so far, thats close. Actually now that I think about it, there are two, that I've seen. Maybe time to add another catagory, I dont have enough anyways..:)

ronnie

use the closest category - shemale its, fetish at least. but better shemale. some link-lists call shemale category - transsexuals, transvestite, guess everybody knows there's a difference between those three?

Shemale is no where near transvestite. I can't imagine that anyone with a sweet tooth for shemales would want to see men dancing around in girly clothes. And I can't see transvetite submissions going anywhere except a general fetish category.

if I searched for transvestites and hit your link-list and you don't have this category - I would chose Shemale category in hope you have something related there not others.


same for I submit 'big ass' freesites to Anal category, not fetish or bbw, though it's not Anal - it's related and get listed.

That's because you are thinking like a porn seller, not someone who understands the mind of transvestites.

Transvestism, which is a complete bitch to spell, is not porn. Transvestites gain a sort of sexual pleasure in dressing themselves in the clothing of the opposite sex. They don't do it for anyone else and they don't tend to find other transvestites appealing. They are almost always straight men who, as Eddie Izzard says, 'fancy women'.

And NO - I am not a transvetite.

Maybe I should add a category of "I'm masturbating to Useless Warrior crossdressed right now."

meet transvestite/ladyboys almost each day here in Thailand (they are crazy about that type of things, you know). I see few stages - young boys (age 13-16) who try to dress like girls and behave. a bit older (age around 20) who get money to do a tit-job (it's cheap here) - so they turn real ladyboys, and last stage they cut their cocks (age 25).

and to me it's all the Same Fetish, back to the topic.

Well then, you're a stupid fuck, aren't ya? THEY AREN'T THE SAME FUCKING THING!!! You are talking about Shemales going through their progression of simply dressing like a woman to getting snipped. Transvestites don't think of themselves as women. Transvestites don't want to get rid of their cocks or get implants. Sure, there are different levels of transvestism, but generally speaking, they aren't anything more than a man who finds some pleasure in dressing like a woman. NO SURGERY REQUIRED OR DESIRED. Do some reading. We're discussing transvestites, not transexuals.

And don't say "back to the topic" as if you're dismissing me, god damn it. As if I care about topics. :D

It's all semantics…

A transsexual is someone that is gender dysphoric. It has nothing to do with what the person looks like, what sex they are, what their sexual preference is, or what body modifications they have had.

A Transvestite is someone that gets some kind of gratification sexual or something else from dressing in the attire of the other sex. Again it has nothing to do with what the person looks like, what sex they are, what their sexual preference is, or what body modifications they have had.

Transsexual and transvestite are a state of mind so if you want to determine what someone is in the attire of the apposite sex you would have to get into their head not their underwear.

Shemale, drag queen, drag king, tgirl, tranny, ladyboy, heshe, etc. is all just slang with different meanings to different people.

To me when I think of crossdresser I think of some hairy straight non-feminine guy sitting around in lingerie whacking his meat.

Ritto should post some examples of what it is that he is talking about.

Yep, the word cross and the word dress... and they wear both of those anyway.

Yanno, with around 400,000 Catholic priests worldwide, there might actually be enough to support a niche site or two.

:)

Cleo just hit the nail on the head. If I may quote ...

"To me when I think of crossdresser I think of some hairy straight non-feminine guy sitting around in lingerie whacking his meat."

So do I. Nothing to do with shemales, transvestites or transexuals. And not gay.

I've been doing crossdressing sites for nigh on 3 years now and I'm still not sure which category to put my sites under (as per the original opening post).

Still though, I'm glad I've helped open up a debate into this little understood niche. Its a lot bigger and more varied than most webmasters realise.

As for examples of what to expect on a crossdressing site, do a search on the word "PixieDress" in either google or yahoo. It will soon become obvious :D

I just want to know who actually looks at this?

I'll try to sell to anyone as long as it is legal but I wouldn't even begin to know who or what to try to sell this to.

Three years and you don't know that cross dressers are transvestites? That's the term. Learn it. Live it. Love it.

And I'm still not going to pose in your wife's panties. Stop asking. :D

This thread is useless without pics

A man in ladies undies is legal, lol.

And who looks at this? Mostly straight curious blokes. They have no intention of leaving the house dressed in ladies clothes so I tend NOT to agree with the "transvestite" label. Its "crossdrssing". Its different but so close even I am begining to doubt the differences.

I would say it blokes having a bit of naughty fun. Not trying to be taken seriousely as a lady in public. And anything thats a bit naughty, a bit on the wrong side, can be very sexual, a turn on.

And if it turns them on, they buy. We are webmasters making money. They buy, we help them find what they want.

Anyone got a problem with that? As long as its legal, and the last time I looked a pair of ladies underwaear on an adult was legal, then whats the problem, lol.

Time for me to sign off for the evening. Catch you all soon :-)

PS. edit to add - Cleo, search on the word "pixiedress" to find examples of pics, its not right for me to post them on this board (probably break some rules or whatever). Night night everyone.

Ok I just checked out http://hairypoo.com/

Now this thread is making much more sense.

Does hairypoo.com do well for you?

Cleo

Hairypoo.com is a very new project, my first attempt at a link list. Its only a few weeks old and I'm still slowly populating it with hosted free sites together with a couple of genuine submitters (the more the merrier). It's too early to say if its going to be a success or not.

I've had the domain name for years but not really utilised it for much. Which is a shame as its a memorable name, you dont forget it in a hurry :D

This is me trying to broaden my horizon's and do more than just AVS sites which is all I've concentrated upon for the last few years.

You are wondering who to sell this kind of site too. Dont. They come to you. Seriousely, I've found that if you do a site on a very obscure niche (keeping it legal), do the usual basic search engine optimisation, the surfers will hunt your site out. As there's going to be very few sites on the net about this subject then they are going to find yours pretty quickly.

I can't answer the question regarding who lists freesites or galleries featuring crossdressing content, but I understand your frustration, Ritto.

My boyfriend and I have a crossdressing site (DeliaCD.com) that is in between TS/Shemale and "some hairy straight non-feminine guy sitting around in lingerie whacking his meat".

I don't know when I'll stop being surprised at people in this industry insisting that such-and-such group doesn't want to look at such-and-such type of content but fyi: a lot of crossdressers like looking at other crossdressers for whatever reasons, and I know a number of women who like looking at guys dressed in "women's" clothing. I'm one of them.

Example: do you know how many people have the hots for Tim Curry as Dr. Frank-N-Furter? Crossdressing is a huge kink and it amazes me that people refuse to accept that folks want to look at crossdressers. Think about how many guys want a jack off buddy who understand them and is also into dressing. As usual people are so mystified by male bisexuality/bicuriosity that they pretend it doesn't exist (including the guys who *are* bisexual or bicurious themselves). There's also overlap with bdsm for a lot of guys who fantasize about forced feminization - they like the obviousness of a guy being forced to act and dress girly and maybe do girly things like sucking cock.

It would be nice if people with shemale categories would at least convert them to tranny (to encompass both TS and TV) and give it a try. There may not be enough CD/TS sites to warrant its own category, but it is out there and I don't see why people are so afraid to make some room for it. Another thing that annoys me are people clothing fetish sites (pantyhose, etc.) who are afraid to post a few links to trannies in said fetish attire. Bizarre -- they're just throwing away perfectly good money.

my next husband needs to be a CD.. preferably one in pantyhose. |boobies|

Looking for someone to steal clothes from? I'm betting it won't be easy to find a man who wears full fashion hose. (See doc, I'm a quick study)

I did once accidentally attempt to slip on a pair of my wife's pants, which was her fault for putting them in my dresser. Does that make me gay?
|couch|

No, but it probably made your cock look bigger.

No, I doubt that. My wife keeps it in a jar in a locked cupboard. I'm not even allowed to play with it.

I'd put it in fetish or prehaps even bizarre(sensationalism), not meant to be degrading in anyway. God knows I have my share of "nasty perversions"... |loony|

Those catch-all categories make sense, especially when there's a perception that something (like crossdressing) is bizarre. The main thing is finding someone who will list it at all, let alone in an appropriate category. Good to know you have a place(s) for it.

I realize that you have little respect for list owners, and believe that we know little or nothing about this industry, but most link lists would list it under fetish, as most link lists have a fetish category where we tuck away almost any niche/fetish which doesn't produce enough submissions to warrant its own category. Even I would accept a transvestite free site and shove it under fetish, but I've yet to see one. I wonder why that is?

Perhaps you surround yourself with transvestites, thus to you, they are commonplace. But to the rest of the world, even those of us who can read and have all of our teeth, men wearing women's clothing is pretty fucking bizarre. And even more bizarre to you, I'm sure, is the fact that just because we find something to be bizarre, doesn't mean that we have secret urges to be what we don't understand. Sometimes a cigar is just...

I added your links in a week or so ago. I stuck DeliaCD.com in Shemale and Fetish not really having a category for the site.

Like I said earlier we need to see examples of what ritto is calling crossdressers.

Crossdressers come to the gay bars sometimes. They look like someone's grandfather dressed up like a character from a sixties television sitcom. This really is what I think of when I think of the word Crossdresser. Actually the word Transvestite gives me a mental image of "some hairy straight non-feminine guy sitting around in lingerie whacking his meat." I really don't think anyone would want to look at these mental images. I know I would like to have them removed from my mind.

Then you have the pretty boys doing drag that just kind of blend in with with shemales, drag queens, transsexuals and the other looks like a girl but may not be. I would say that DeliaCD would fit right in this group.

If this would be something that I would have a lot of I would probably split my tranny category up between With Body Modification like Tits and Without Body Modification like Tits or maybe Feminine TVs and Shemales. All these names are misnomers but this is more street slang then anything PC.

The escort sites like Eros lumps them all together.

To be honest I really need to split up some of my other categories much more.

|huh

Maybe you misunderstood what I said. I said it totally makes sense to put it in fetish or even bizarre, I don't find that offensive, particularly when that is a commonly held perception. And as I said in a previous post, it makes sense to lump CD/TV stuff in with another category since just as you said, there probably aren't enough submissions to warrant its own category. I never said you have a secret urge to crossdress, just that your cock would look bigger in panties. Maybe if your wife would let you take it out of the jar you wouldn't pick or perceive a fight in virtually every thread.

It's great to hear that you and others will list a TV site -- maybe you could have said that in your first response instead of
If you're so concerned about getting respect, maybe you should start out by showing some respect for others by discussing the issue on the table (where to get listed) *without* being totally insulting and disregarding the business potential of the niche in question.

I think it's awesome that you are willing to link to Ritto's crossdressing sites -- can't wait to see them listed on your site. We will also make sure to submit to you since you are so open-minded and receptive.

Thanks for the links!

Of course I think "pretty boys in drag" sounds like a hot category, but maybe that's just me. I suppose a lot of the "girls" wouldn't like to be called "boys". It's a tough one, for sure, and is just nice to be listed anywhere at all in whatever category.

There are honestly linklists and tgp's that have a "trannies need not apply" rule particularly when it comes to fetish clothing sites (hosiery, panties, etc.). I'm not bringing it up to complain about it or say that they should list content/sites they're not interested in, but am only saying it in response to Ritto's post and to give people pause to think that maybe they are losing out on money by NOT listing it. I think it's a mistake to assume there's any type of content with absolutely NO audience. Even the Milton Berle style amateur drag stuff which I know people trade a lot and post a lot in online communities so *someone* must like to look at it, even if for no other reason than it makes crossdressers feel like they're not alone -- and there are a lot of crossdressers in this world, many of them CRAVING community and reassurance for some of the reasons highlighted in this thread with the stigma of it being bizarre and unattractive.

I see CD's all the time down from my little window on the world at the swap.. regs who come in to buy jewelry.. all decked out but with deep bass voices.. My favorite and I told him I'd marry him but he's already married.. dammit.. just found a new way to pump up his wonderbra..and he looks divine!!

One of my drag pals once told me that when a straight man puts on a dress, he's a cross dresser..

but it doesn't matter to me.. a boy in a dress is my favorite voyeur view. :D

and Delia is my very favorite CD which just goes to prove ALL the good ones are taken.. |thumb

I don't care whether you respect ME. That's not an issue. Whatever it is about your posts, I sense an underlying hostility towards link lists and their owners. (It could be my faultering psychic abilities to blame.) It could just be that this board is crowded with list owners and by default, any negativity you express in your posts, I take as negativity towards this particular realm of traffic movers. I'm not one who is going to tell you that link lists are the holy grail of traffic and sales either. They're not. It just happens to be the arm of this industry that I'm most heavily involved in.

As far as being insultive to others, well...I'm not sure I know what you are talking about. I take great pride in my warm and unopinionated demeanor. ;) I'd bet that you can't find more than 30 dozen or so times that I've been grotesquely and inexcusably insultive to anyone on this board.
Oh, I won't fucking list Ritto's shit. Let's not be confused here. :D

As far as my first post in this thread, where I said, "I'm not sure how or where they'd fit in to standard category page." That was honestly pretty damned stupid of me. |thumb

Okay . . . but will you list DELIA?

(samples here: http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=32602 )

Just curious . . .

Of course I would. It's high quality stuff and you know what you're selling.

Awww -- thanks! I might have to get ahold of your wife and ask if I can give your pickled penis a little rub and tug of appreciation. ;)

I'd actually like to learn more about this- Trix or Ritto, do you have any fav links to share? I have a cute young thing who likes to wear pantyhose, I just know there's some money to be made off his nice ass somewhere :-)

Links to sources of traffic or samples/example sites?

I want to see this hot ass in pantyhose . . .