PR Question
 

How does it come that my warning page has a PR3 and my main page a PR2?
Shouldn't they be the same or what is it that determines the PR?

PR is this big complicated mess that people pay way too much attention to.

That being said it just means more people link to your root page then your main page.

Aha, I see, but is it any useful in some way?

You need a PR of 4, or something like that can't remember, to get deep spidered. You also need a certain PR for Google to cache your pages.

Mostly it seems to be good for starting threads about PR. :D

Sure having a high PR is good, but don't get too obsessed with the PR of your pages. :)

Well, I thought that maybe google would send you more hits if you have high PR.
What does it means to get deep spidered?

That is how many levels into your site the spiders will go.

True but the other bits arent quite right..


Let assume that the PR the toolbar shows you is correct...(which it may not be)

Cleo is right in that your root index is the page that most incoming links come to.. so it will be "ranked" higher than the internal pages.

Look at the back links to that page and the toolbar will show you the higher ranked pages linking to it. (the rule used to be pages or PR > or = to 4)

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...teens%2Ecom%2F

This does NOT show every back(incoming) link!

NOT a correct assumption.:( PR is only part of what Google uses to return search results.

Page content, keywords, word density, incoming links, linked text etc etc are just some of the other things Google uses to 'calculate' its results.

Cleo, I believe any domain can be deep spidered as long as Googlebot is aware of it..
I do not believe it is based on PR. How often Googlebot returns to the page to re-spider it may be.


Either way the premise for better search results remains the same.

Gain more relevant incoming links
Use spicific keyword and anchor text in those incoming links
Use and dont over-use appropriate keywords within your pages.

DD

I really did think that I had read someplace that your PR had an effect on how deep into your domain they went, but then again I was told that there was an Easter bunny.

Anyway I've learned that when it comes to SEs DD is usually right. :D

one of my domains warning page just went from pr2 to pr3 and main page from pr1 to pr3, the cats now have pr ( some 1 or 2 ), webmaster and submit pages are now pr 2 & pr3 i have no idea how it works.

Syke,

It is not too hard to understand.. the basics at least..

If you want to show me a/the domain I will walk you thru the basics..

DD

well, the PR on my main page has dropped since i posted, but http://www.collegecumshots.com has 3 on the index and 3 on the main. http://www.tripleorgasm.com/ has 3 on the index and 1 on the main ( which im guessing is a back link thing, since most linkbacks are to the index).....

Ha well finally my ghost domain netmaniak.com gives after last month a pr7 now a pr0, soooo that will mean that it isnt a ghost url any more and that google have finally fix my problem after 5 months!!!|roses| Now i can work on the damn site!!! I dont believe i was ever so happy with an pr0|bananna|

Really, the most important part is once you get a reasonable PR, is to work to optimize the page for the SERPs... PR4 or better means that googlebot is going to come visit regularly, so now you can start playing and working towards getting humans to come to your site, not just bots.

PR10 and bad design don't add up to alot of traffic.

Alex

is it tough getting a pr3 site to pr4 or is that a natural progression if the webmaster just keeps building/maintaining etc?

mmm i think i try this evening again t get in thru mirc, i think i know what the problem is, was......

ohh damnn sorry wrong thread!!!!!|sad|

PR |pissleft|

I must admit I have some problems figuring this PR thing out as well. What I really wanted was to have a PR5 on Booballistics index page. But alas...

But then all of a sudden my main page on HooterHQ goes from PR3 to PR5... haven't done a damn thing there??

However... like it has already been mentioned... its not like the PR5 has caused thousands upon thousands of SE hits |sad|

i agree with Urb and Jantm, focus on pr did me |cry| and ***sign*** ses hits thats it is all about for me now!!|violin|

stuveltje :) girl you got it - PR doesnt mean much of anything...Id rather have a site with a PR0 or 1 with 1000 keyword combinations ranking in the SE results than a PR5 with nothing in the results - I like money :)

Managed to get a PR6 on an adult site once. (Got witnesses too)

Was done with no artificial feeders, just sheer brute force of back links.

I am sure Google de-rank adult material anyway.

|rasta|

Urb...I think with the highest PR adult site out there an 8 (if it still is?) and a few 7's floating around, and the fact that the DMOZ cats never get much above a 6 for the adult side, its tough to get above 5, and stay there, and 6s are real hard work like you mentioned. As long as you stay away from the artificial bunk and work the backlinks like you say, it can be done.

Funny...on the mainstream side, you can put a site up, get the right cat in DMOZ for a 2 page affiliate site, and get a PR5 the next month....what a difference.

Well if no one thinks its worth anything... I wont bother. :D


PR6 aint that hard |rasta| - http://www.dangerdave.com.au/


DD

if PR4, PR5, 6, 7 or whatever means that your page is updated more often in the index or has some sort of advantage over lower PR sites then it is worth something but not the be all and end all...

DDave - LOL - and worth the work you put into it....shows the difference of working hard and not going for those easy outs :)

Syke - MONKEY!! hahahaha made me laugh... Pigsy, Sandy... was funny stuff. :D

Linkster.. for sure.. and its actually easily doable.. with a little persistence and patience.

No Urb... it justs "de-rank's" YOUR stuff.. its the anti-urb algorithm ! or is that the ConePauper algorithm! |shocking|

|bananna|

DD

I found this page,10 Google Myths Revealed as I was searching for info about PR on google. Quite interesting reading.

DangerDave :D

Linkster :)

One of the best ones used to be
Janes Guide but I think she dropped to a PR6 recently.

Also AVN is now PR6.

The mighty Tommys-Bookmarks, Greenguy and DangerDave only ever seem to maintain PR6. When in reality they should be higher.

I'd love to see an adult PR7. But I presume it's not possible???

Like I said, I'd love to see an adult PR7+ anyone know any?

I have one domain which just hit the deck PR0 |skull| , but strangely has found reasonable traffic from Yahoo! instead. Not to mention that if your site is worth returning to, you can get bookmarkers.

Which goes to prove that there is life after PR.

asacp is one that I can think of thats a 7 under the adult directory...for good reason :)

All the others that used to be 8's (there was an adult humor blog that you could get listed in pretty easily) have lost 2 PR points in the last 6 months.
AVN kinda surprised me but they recently did a face lift so maybe they havent re-optimized very much :) they dropped all of the link exchanges they had and have started over, which probably affected them the most

Urb...Ive seen Yahoo experimenting with Inktomi results instead of Google a couple of times....nice boost too :) hopefully a shot of things to come...

Hmmmmmm interesting Urb.. I hadn't seen that Janes and AVN dropped...

Wonder what the story is behind that...... ???


mist - IMO some of those "myths revealed" are WRONG... always be careful when you read stuff about Google..

Lots of people have lots of opinions..

Umm when did the SE's stop using Metas??? Sheesh... Google aint that dominant.!


Urb, I too have 0 and unranked domains that get decent yahoo traffic.. often they have been picked up on one Googlebot run , and then dropped on the next.. but they still appear in their mirrors... Yahoo, AOL,etc.

DD

DD: Not only is Google not the only search engine out there, but as Yahoo moved away from Google results, their power will drop... and all things will change again.

There really is alot of shakeup on the horizon, with the MSN bot hard at work, Yahoo switching to Inktomi, and altavista actually seeing some traffic again.

Anyone else miss the days of Excite and Infoseek? :-)


On PR, I think that Jane's might have lost some "newer links" because of the charge for review process they have been using. I rarely see a new site submitted anymore with a Jane's link on it, and for the most part, it appears to be more non-commercial personality stroking labour of love sites, most of which I don't list because they just don't match up to what I am looking for. Just as importantly, alot of freehosted and "marginal" hosted sites have dropped in the last 6 - 12 months, and many of those are those exact "personality" sites that Jane's seems to enjoy listing. As they drop, they lose backlinks and in the long run, lose PR.

Anyway, back to making generic, money making porn sites. :-)

Alex

pornresource.com was 7 a while ago and http://www.thumbzilla.com shows 7 for me right now.

That would make sense..:(

DD

Nice one :D

Zilla = 2,190 backward links (PR7)
Jennys = 2,190 backward links (PR6)
Al4a = 2,040 backward links (PR6)
JanesG = 1,170 backward links (PR6)
RRealm = 1,100 backward links (PR6)
GGuy = 954 backward links (PR6)
PKitty = 820 backward links (PR6)
Tommy = 601 backward links (PR6)
Shemp = 572 backward links (PR6)
DDave = 320 backward links (PR6)

But there's a few which are not following the pattern
an example being.....

DrBizzaro = 1,840 backward links (PR5)

Maybe PR is not always relative to backward links.

Interesting Urb :D

http://www.persiankitty.com/ - we have omitted some entries very similar to the 711 already displayed. (820) - 0.86
http://www.shemp.com/ - we have omitted some entries very similar to the 461 already displayed.(572) - 0.81
http://www.tommys-bookmarks.com/ - we have omitted some entries very similar to the 474 already displayed. (601) - 0.79
http://www.link-o-rama.com/ - we have omitted some entries very similar to the 703 already displayed. (954) - 0.73
http://www.dangerdave.com.au/ - we have omitted some entries very similar to the 232 already displayed.(320) - 0.72
http://www.richards-realm.com/ - we have omitted some entries very similar to the 783 already displayed. (1100) - 0.71
http://www.janesguide.com/ - we have omitted some entries very similar to the 791 already displayed (1170) - 0.66
http://www.thumbzilla.com/ - we have omitted some entries very similar to the 477 already displayed.(2190) - 0.21
http://www.jennysbookmarks.com - we have omitted some entries very similar to the 273 already displayed.(2190) - 0.12
http://www.al4a.com/ - we have omitted some entries very similar to the 80 already displayed. (2040) - 0.04

DD

http://www.xnxx.com/ - 369 backward links - PR 8

wow.. nice site.

PR8 can only be described as being impressive. :D

That's the highest adult PR I've ever seen.

Please also see....
http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=xnxx.com

PR 8 mostly because of link exchanges with alot of PR6 and PR7 sites... which should make the site an "authority" site, which gives it a higher PR. It is the same PR as foxnews.com, as an example!

PR8 for an adult site is rare, and there probably isn't more than a couple.

This site is rare also that it has fairly high traffic as well, unlike alot of high PR / low traffic sites out there.

Alex