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GonZo 2006-11-17 08:38 AM
XXXJay way to step up on Zango
 
Your post on GFY certainly makes it crystal clear as to what your all about.

Greenguy 2006-11-17 08:53 AM
Jim showed me that this morning - I have no idea who the other guy is, but I kinda get the feeling that he'd have been better off saying they were both morons.

T Pat 2006-11-17 09:26 AM
I just wasted a half hour looking for it.
Now like every time I go time I go to GFY I feel like I need to go take a shower, get a haircut and go get a real job

Greenguy 2006-11-17 09:46 AM
Oh man! Now I feel bad for T Pat :(
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=678151

:)

Ramster 2006-11-17 10:22 AM
Thanks for the link I didn't see it. That's hurts.

AFF is/was stealing our traffic and I am slowly pulling ALL my links to them.

docholly 2006-11-17 10:56 AM
I guess that's what happens when you hang with the "cool" crowd.. probably why i prefer the FFN crew. :D

Useless 2006-11-17 10:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by T Pat (Post 312954)
Now like every time I go time I go to GFY I feel like I need to go take a shower, get a haircut and go get a real job
I only go there when I see references to it like this one. (Damn you Gonzo! :D ) I'm glad that I'm not the only who feels icky as a result of reading threads there. If one ever really wants to be truly embarrassed by their colleagues, or is looking for an explanation as to why the world thinks of us as pure scum, head to GFY. It is the very worst representation of this industry and its people. |thumb

Greenguy 2006-11-17 11:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 312990)
....If one ever really wants to be truly embarrassed by their colleagues, or is looking for an explanation as to why the world thinks of us as pure scum, head to GFY. It is the very worst representation of this industry and its people. |thumb
And that's just the sig files!

Preacher 2006-11-17 11:20 AM
You know, I had a rough morning so it feels good to get in a nice laugh.

Simon 2006-11-17 11:41 AM


oh ... no ... had ... to ... read ... entire ... thread

...must ... go ... wash ... brain ... now ...

.

__ |pissright|pissed||pissleft| __
(don't tell me it's raining)

GonZo 2006-11-17 12:51 PM
That thread took a turn from ass kissing to wanting to lawyer up.
I found it iinteresting from Jays earlier stance here of wanting to once again ride in on his white horse and save us all to stepping up for his buddy Lars. Funny thing was it was ok as long as it wasnt happening to him. Makes you wonder how his program treats affiliates as well.

And I agree the worst of this industry hangs out there. If you are a thief, scammer or spammer you can buy your way into being a top notch guy!

I certainly hope Playboy is proud.

GonZo 2006-11-17 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by docholly (Post 312987)
I guess that's what happens when you hang with the "cool" crowd.. probably why i prefer the FFN crew. :D
I guess being a thief or a drug addict is cool.

Chop Smith 2006-11-17 03:05 PM
I joined the FSC

Dr Bizzaro 2006-11-17 07:18 PM
That was interesting.

Thanks for the link. I would have never even gone over there to look for it.

juggernaut 2006-11-17 11:33 PM
JESUS FUCKING CHIRST! Man I only post on this board and glad I do. I have those days where I realize I know nothing about this biz. Reading that board was one of those days. Have no clue who 90% of those people are, don't really care as their posts show they are not people I want to bother with. Dam I know I make some dumb posts, I can only see myself getting skinned alive over there. Well thanks for the post Gonzo only makes me realize I got lucky in finding this board.

GonZo 2006-11-18 12:22 AM
Dont thank me thank Jay for being crystal clear.

MightyMidget 2006-11-18 05:07 AM
Hehe, I remember when Fonz told me about GG&J after I submitted my first freesite to SmilingPussy (basically he said it looked awful and I had to ask for advice, which was true so thanks Fonz :) ). The picture in my head resembled what GFY looks like, so I was genuinely surprised when I saw how nice most people on GG&J were. Then much later I ran into GFY and I realized that there actually *are* adult boards that look just like the picture I had in my head - pretty awful!

Kinky 2006-11-18 05:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chop Smith (Post 313048)
I joined the FSC
I just couldn't help but fall on the floor and laugh my ass off when I saw your post Chop |thumb I needed that too it's been a rough couple months since we all got to hang out in Sin City :D

on a side note "why doesn't god heal amputees?" that is an important and valid question every webmaster should know according to the zoo.

jayeff 2006-11-18 10:02 AM
Here's a few pro's and con's:
  • I started a resource site at the beginning of September and began posting here (with a sig) about 10 days into the month. Despite that late start and its more restrictive sig rules, this board has generated the most visitors to date. GFY, where I have been posting since 2001, generated the fewest visitors of all the boards on which I post. However, Netpond and GFY visitors generated the most revenue. Make of those results what you will :)
  • I started visiting GFY out of curiousity and then noticed that I was picking up maybe twice as much info about new sites and special promotions as I received by email. That had me double-checking that my sponsors had my current email address, yes they did, so in the end I came to the conclusion that many sponsors live in a world in which existing affiliates are supposed to visit their sites for news. The situation has improved a little in the past 5 years, but however much rubbish appears on GFY, I still don't know a single source more likely to keep one reasonably up to date.
  • If you discount the obvious sig-whores and surfers, I would argue that GFY better represents a cross-section of the webmaster community than the boards which enforce their own standards. Certainly such enforcement makes the boards in question easier to use, but it also filters their posters, whereas on GFY you see everyone "in the raw" as it were. For better or worse, I like to see how people I may do business with behave when allowed to be themselves.

As to the XXXJay thing... I made my own observations about someone who runs both a sponsor program and a large traffic resource, apparently unconcerned that he was completely out of the loop on an issue which affected him directly (and negatively), but was nevertheless willing to take sides based solely on the personalities involved.

Unfortunately he isn't an exception and the reality of the scumware issue (and many others like it) is that they would never occur, were it not that those who decide to play dirty know that some will defend them because of who they are, while the vast majority of webmasters will stay on the sidelines. I doubt I shall ever understand why so few people in this industry are prepared to defend their business interests.

Useless 2006-11-18 12:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayeff (Post 313160)
If you discount the obvious sig-whores and surfers, I would argue that GFY better represents a cross-section of the webmaster community than the boards which enforce their own standards.
You're an ass. You can't simply discount that shit. Take GFY as a fucking WHOLE. As a WHOLE, it's a haven for idiots and sig whores. Which are you?

Who the hell wants to filter through all that shit? Who? Answer me GODDAMN IT!

Greenguy 2006-11-18 12:58 PM
Useless - he does sorta have a point - there are legit webmasters over there, but the number of "idiots and sig whores" is far greater.

GFY is a lot like a high school party that featured all the cool kids that 10 years later never amounted to anything - sure, there were some dorks at the party, but they live in mansions now :D

eman 2006-11-18 01:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 313204)
You're an ass. You can't simply discount that shit. Take GFY as a fucking WHOLE. As a WHOLE, it's a haven for idiots and sig whores. Which are you?

Who the hell wants to filter through all that shit? Who? Answer me GODDAMN IT!
I can't believe your level of hostility.

Jayeff doesn't need me to speak up for him - he's far more articulate than am I - but I'd like to suggest that you spend a little time over at GFY and search out posts made by Jayeff. You'd discover that it's possible to present reasoned arguments without throwing insults.

T Pat 2006-11-18 02:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eman (Post 313209)
I can't believe your level of hostility.

Jayeff doesn't need me to speak up for him - he's far more articulate than am I - but I'd like to suggest that you spend a little time over at GFY and search out posts made by Jayeff. You'd discover that it's possible to present reasoned arguments without throwing insults.
Did Useless wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? :D

I've read every post Jayef has made on GGandJ and all the tutorials he has written he's a brite guy and has offered a helping hand to many, I don't get where your coming from Useless|huh

Back to the topic of this thread someone needs to start listening to the Greenguy and Jim Radio Show |jester|

Greenguy 2006-11-18 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eman (Post 313209)
I can't believe your level of hostility.

Jayeff doesn't need me to speak up for him - he's far more articulate than am I - but I'd like to suggest that you spend a little time over at GFY and search out posts made by Jayeff. You'd discover that it's possible to present reasoned arguments without throwing insults.
I'd be willing to bet that in every legit thread that's started over there, there is at least one reply that would be considered useless, off topic, spammy, sig whore or just plain rude.

I've said it before - GFY has it's place in our world & I give Lensman all the credit in the world for starting it (and basically creating the sig market) but you can only sort thru so much shit to find a gem or 2.

emmanuelle 2006-11-18 02:38 PM
I think that most longstanding boards have their share of pros & cons. It's up to the individual to determine what they are willing to accept in order to get what they want or need from it. I don't find it difficult to peruse gfy with blinders on when I need to be there. Thankfully such occasions are rare these days though :D

jayeff 2006-11-18 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 313204)
You're an ass. You can't simply discount that shit. Take GFY as a fucking WHOLE. As a WHOLE, it's a haven for idiots and sig whores. Which are you?

Who the hell wants to filter through all that shit? Who? Answer me GODDAMN IT!
I think you just proved my point better than I ever could...

digifan 2006-11-18 06:41 PM
Jayeff is a very educated and intelligent member of a few boards which should be proud of having him as a member. He is always helpful, up to date and a realist.

UW why are you mad at the world? It is not funny... when last time I told you that maybe you shouldn't bash people and webmasters whose mother language is not English, I was thinking of Stuvelje who is a respected member here and I am sorry you did not realize that. Now Jayeff is an ass... awesome... not. |crazy|

GonZo 2006-11-18 07:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by emmanuelle (Post 313217)
I think that most longstanding boards have their share of pros & cons. It's up to the individual to determine what they are willing to accept in order to get what they want or need from it. I don't find it difficult to peruse gfy with blinders on when I need to be there. Thankfully such occasions are rare these days though :D
No shit! Live's a bitch and then you buy one.
[of those long standing boards that is...]

MrYum 2006-11-18 09:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by emmanuelle (Post 313217)
I think that most longstanding boards have their share of pros & cons. It's up to the individual to determine what they are willing to accept in order to get what they want or need from it. I don't find it difficult to peruse gfy with blinders on when I need to be there. Thankfully such occasions are rare these days though :D
Well said |thumb

There is indeed 'some' useful information over there. And sometimes filtering through the muck to find those bits of into is downright entertaining (in a car wreck kinda way of course :D).

While I don't know Jayeff at all, the posts of his I've seen always seemed articulate and on point.

Useless 2006-11-18 10:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by digifan (Post 313235)
UW why are you mad at the world?
I'm not. Is there something new or surprising in my tone? I called a guy an ass for defending GFY. Big deal. GFY is a shit hole.
Quote:
Originally Posted by digifan (Post 313235)
It is not funny...
It wasn't meant to be!
Quote:
Originally Posted by digifan (Post 313235)
when last time I told you that maybe you shouldn't bash people and webmasters whose mother language is not English, I was thinking of Stuvelje who is a respected member here and I am sorry you did not realize that.
What the fuck are you talking about? What does Stu have to do with this? I love Stu, btw. When's the last time you told Greenie not bash foriegners? Would you like to take this thread in yet another direction? Is there some other issue you'd like to get off your chest?
Quote:
Originally Posted by digifan (Post 313235)
Now Jayeff is an ass... awesome... not.
Yes, that's my opinion. I'm sure he's a lovely guy, but I don't know him - how would I? I don't spend my days trolling GFY. |shocking|

Greenguy 2006-11-18 11:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 313277)
...When's the last time you told Greenie not bash foriegners?...
Hey Now! I don't bash foreigners, I bash non-English speaking webmasters. I'd bash a webmaster that was born in Cleveland if the only language they spoke Spanish :D

(PS - I can read deleted posts - BRILLIANT!)

jayeff 2006-11-19 11:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 313277)
I'm not. Is there something new or surprising in my tone? I called a guy an ass for defending GFY. Big deal. GFY is a shit hole.
Actually what you did was reply to a post, using the exact same bad language and personal insults as so many people find distasteful on GFY. In fact your response was such that for a moment I thought I was on GFY by mistake...

Oh yes, and if you had read my post before dropping into keyboard warrior mode, you might have noticed that I was not offering a defense of GFY: merely stating my reasons for visiting it. I should have added that GFY is also a very useful place to learn who not to do business with. Thank you for reminding me of that omission.

Useless 2006-11-19 11:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 313286)
(PS - I can read deleted posts - BRILLIANT!)
:D I got carried away with myself. Then I saw Digi's post, which I remain confused by, and I decided that my initial post was, well - useless.

Useless 2006-11-19 11:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayeff (Post 313353)
Oh yes, and if you had read my post before dropping into keyboard warrior mode...
NO, NO, NO!!!

Repeat after me: "Useless" (not "keyboard") Silly boy. |catfight|

Senator_x 2006-11-19 03:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayeff (Post 313160)
Here's a few pro's and con's:
  • I started a resource site at the beginning of September and began posting here (with a sig) about 10 days into the month. Despite that late start and its more restrictive sig rules, this board has generated the most visitors to date. GFY, where I have been posting since 2001, generated the fewest visitors of all the boards on which I post. However, Netpond and GFY visitors generated the most revenue. Make of those results what you will :)
  • I started visiting GFY out of curiousity and then noticed that I was picking up maybe twice as much info about new sites and special promotions as I received by email. That had me double-checking that my sponsors had my current email address, yes they did, so in the end I came to the conclusion that many sponsors live in a world in which existing affiliates are supposed to visit their sites for news. The situation has improved a little in the past 5 years, but however much rubbish appears on GFY, I still don't know a single source more likely to keep one reasonably up to date.
  • If you discount the obvious sig-whores and surfers, I would argue that GFY better represents a cross-section of the webmaster community than the boards which enforce their own standards. Certainly such enforcement makes the boards in question easier to use, but it also filters their posters, whereas on GFY you see everyone "in the raw" as it were. For better or worse, I like to see how people I may do business with behave when allowed to be themselves.

As to the XXXJay thing... I made my own observations about someone who runs both a sponsor program and a large traffic resource, apparently unconcerned that he was completely out of the loop on an issue which affected him directly (and negatively), but was nevertheless willing to take sides based solely on the personalities involved.

Unfortunately he isn't an exception and the reality of the scumware issue (and many others like it) is that they would never occur, were it not that those who decide to play dirty know that some will defend them because of who they are, while the vast majority of webmasters will stay on the sidelines. I doubt I shall ever understand why so few people in this industry are prepared to defend their business interests.

Ditto.. well said

Senator_x 2006-11-19 03:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 313204)
You're an ass. You can't simply discount that shit. Take GFY as a fucking WHOLE. As a WHOLE, it's a haven for idiots and sig whores. Which are you?

Who the hell wants to filter through all that shit? Who? Answer me GODDAMN IT!

You are USELESS

Useless 2006-11-19 05:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator_x (Post 313405)
You are USELESS
Well, you're a clever little cunt, aren't ya. Did you think of that one on your own or did you pull that little piece of originality out of the GG&Jim archives?

Sit there...wondering if I give 1 and a 1/4 shits what YOU think of ME. I can already hear the hamsters jogging along on that little wheel you call a brain.

To hell with Zango. To hell with XXXJay's support of Lars. To hell with GFY. Let's make this ALL ABOUT ME and what a horrible bastard I am!|roses|

Would any other no-name fuck-face like to piss on me because I called Jayeff an ass? This shit makes me harder than midget porn (and you wouldn't believe how hard that makes me).

Now that I've called Senator (who?) a clever little cunt, would some other even less-known fuckwad like to battle me over that - or does this guy have no friends? I've time to waste.

Yes, I called Jayeff an ass for his opinion. Big fargin' deal. I'm sure he's a lovely chap with testes that smell of daisies.

Christ, I'm gonna need a Juicy sig if I keep this shit up.

BTW, Senator - I hope they change your name to Senator_cunt. Why don't you post a few more times in that thread, numbnuts.


I'm still blaming Gonzo for this whole mess. |thumb

Chop Smith 2006-11-19 05:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator_x (Post 313405)
You are USELESS
Far from it. You might find UW to be offensive but he is a highly intelligent person that has brilliant ideas. He forms his opinions and perhaps express them in a hostile manner in order to draw attention. Most old members of this board search to read the COCKSUCKER'S posts.

I hear that Jayeff knows his stuff about blogs and is a welcomed asset to the GG&J blogging community. I hope he sticks around. However, that horrible bastard that we call Useless will express his opinion. Agree or disagree with him but always enjoy his posts.

Gonzo, was this thread meant to be about the pros and cons of the zoo?

GonZo 2006-11-19 08:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 313409)
Well, you're a clever little cunt, aren't ya. Did you think of that one on your own or did you pull that little piece of originality out of the GG&Jim archives?

Sit there...wondering if I give 1 and a 1/4 shits what YOU think of ME. I can already hear the hamsters jogging along on that little wheel you call a brain.

To hell with Zango. To hell with XXXJay's support of Lars. To hell with GFY. Let's make this ALL ABOUT ME and what a horrible bastard I am!|roses|

Would any other no-name fuck-face like to piss on me because I called Jayeff an ass? This shit makes me harder than midget porn (and you wouldn't believe how hard that makes me).

Now that I've called Senator (who?) a clever little cunt, would some other even less-known fuckwad like to battle me over that - or does this guy have no friends? I've time to waste.

Yes, I called Jayeff an ass for his opinion. Big fargin' deal. I'm sure he's a lovely chap with testes that smell of daisies.

Christ, I'm gonna need a Juicy sig if I keep this shit up.

BTW, Senator - I hope they change your name to Senator_cunt. Why don't you post a few more times in that thread, numbnuts.


I'm still blaming Gonzo for this whole mess. |thumb
God if you blame me for this you dont want to see what I just posted on Oprano about a class action suit.

T Pat 2006-11-19 09:30 PM
Second time in a week you've sent me in search of a link Gonzo :D

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=50166

Don't anyone take me wrong I have nothing negative to say about Oprano and I didn't have to wade threw a bunch of crap to find the link|thumb


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