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robcio 2007-12-14 10:50 AM

First FreeSites
 
Hey guys!
Firstly i would like to say hello to everyone 'cause i'm new here :] so... HELLO!

These're my very first freesites

1. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...e_asian_whore/
2. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...orny_brunette/
3. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...cks_strangers/

I'd like to hear from You any comments, advices before i start to add them to link lists. Please write what i've to change etc.

Thank You,
Greetings!

spacemanspiff 2007-12-14 11:06 AM

1. I didn't look at all of your pics, but the ones I looked at were 700 X 467 which will keep you from getting listed at Greenguys.

2. You're allowed 3 outgoing links per page at most places. Use em.

3. You won't get listed at my link list since you're not submitting. :D

I didn't look at your hosting or your registrar or where you buy your groceries or what kind of shampoo you use. Someone will be along shortly to do that. Otherwise, the sites look fine to me.

NY Jester 2007-12-14 11:57 AM

As Space man pointed out the short side of many of your pics is under 500 pixels that may keep you off many of the sites. What will keep you off all the sites however is lack of the - 18 USC 2257 information - most if not all of the Link Lists require this information being present and to help protect yourself, its mandated as well.

You'll need to watch the Blind Links - sample 3 has "Enter main site" and below that has "come in.." You'll want to be specific as to what/where the surfer will go/see. Instead you could say something like "Check Out All the Pornstars at Midnight Prowl"

Another small point is the actual number of pics. Some especially the larger LL's require 12 pics per page. My best advise to you is to go and check out the Lists youd like to submit to and read their rules, and also see what they are listing to get a better feel for what goes over and what doesnt. Otherwise the sites look good.

Best to you
J-

|jester|

Useless 2007-12-14 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NY Jester (Post 379437)
What will keep you off all the sites however is lack of the - 18 USC 2257 information - most if not all of the Link Lists require this information being present and to help protect yourself, its mandated as well.

Hate to differ with you, Jester, but that's not at all true. Most link lists don't concern themselves with 2257 statements. We don't work for the DOJ. ;)

robcio - I don't like the shampoo you use, so I wouldn't list your sites.

NY Jester 2007-12-14 02:59 PM

UW, I have to say you are mostly corrrect. I do see it alot on TGP submits, more so than LL submits. I guess Im just in the habit to add it as precaution. Color me corrected.

robcio 2007-12-14 04:52 PM

Thanks for advices, i've already corrected it:

http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...e_asian_whore/
http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...orny_brunette/
http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...cks_strangers/

Is it ok now?

UW - what kind of shampoos you prefer? I'm open to changes... :]

papagmp 2007-12-15 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robcio (Post 379482)
Thanks for advices, i've already corrected it:

http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...e_asian_whore/
http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...orny_brunette/
http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...cks_strangers/

Is it ok now?

UW - what kind of shampoos you prefer? I'm open to changes... :]

The first site still has a blind "enter" link on the main page - change it to visit or something other than enter.

Other than that, I agree with spacemanspiff "You won't get listed at my link list since you're not submitting."

Oh - and as for Useless - does he look like he knows ANYTHING about shampoo?|jester|

robcio 2007-12-16 04:54 AM

Thank You guys for replies - that was very helpfull. I will start today addin' my sites to LLs but i've got one more question... it's 'bout niche - at my sponsor's site, there is written that midnightprowl is "reality" niche but i found difficult in some LLs to find such category. I will add them to Pornstar's niche ... i think it's correct 'cause on their banners we can see text like: "average guys fuck pornstars" etc, what do ya think?

And one more.... papagmp, to what niche i've to add my site in your LL? There's no Pornstar's...

Thank You and Greetz

papagmp 2007-12-16 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robcio (Post 379635)
And one more.... papagmp, to what niche i've to add my site in your LL? There's no Pornstar's...
Thank You and Greetz

Look at the actual content of the site -

IMO -
best fits are:
1. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...e_asian_whore/
Asian

2. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...orny_brunette/
There is mixed content on this site - may get you denied at some LL's
gallery 1 I'd put into babes
gallery 2 would go into hardcore
I'd put it into babes as it sits right now

3. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...cks_strangers/ Orgy/Groupsex

Content of the FS is what determines the cat - not the niche of the sponsor's site.

For example, glassmannequin.com is an amateur site focused on teens but I can make free sites with our content that fit well into one or more of the following cats: teens, big tits, oral sex, hardcore, softcore, videos, amateur, brunettes, redheads, blonds, interracial, old and young, anal, cream pie, facials, petite, big tits, tiny tits etc.....

look at these:
Sex Toys / Dildos
Teen Hardcore
Toys / dildos
Teen + (videos)

Lesbians + (teen or amateur)

Amateur + (teen) or Hardcore
Group Sex
Old and Young
Interracial
Teen Softcore
Amateur + Teen + Video or Hardcore Teen


I submit to about 100 LL's and I seldom have a free site that fits all of then exactly the same. Some sites break teen into 5 or 6 cats and there is at least one LL that does not have a teen cat at all.

As for submitting to me hen the cat is confusing, use the general recip and I'll put it where I think it fits best.

Hope this helps

PapaGMP

robcio 2007-12-16 07:37 AM

Thank you papagmp!

I was making recips last 2 hours to cat pornstars ;] so i'll try to add these 3 sites there, i'll look at next FSs's content before i make recips for them, although these pictures doesn't fit cat pornstars?

robcio 2008-01-02 06:23 AM

hello, got question for ya...
i've made this FS:

http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...tted_pornstar/

i've added it to LLs but now i noticed that i haven't linked banner and 'JOIN NOW' text on the index page, can i change it now?? (after adding?)

Greetings

papagmp 2008-01-02 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robcio (Post 382228)
hello, got question for ya...
i've made this FS:

http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...tted_pornstar/

i've added it to LLs but now i noticed that i haven't linked banner and 'JOIN NOW' text on the index page, can i change it now?? (after adding?)

Greetings

As long as you still follow the rules i couldn't care less.

Fonz 2008-01-02 07:45 AM

Robcio, another thing...

You submit all your sites to the pornstar category while the actual content is from a normal girl getting banged by a few guys. The pornstar category is moer reserved for the well know porn stars like Gina Lynn, Jenna Jameson, Useless Warrior, etc.
Not every girl doing hardcore is your typical pornstar. Your freesites belong in the asian, group, etc. categories IMO.

robcio 2008-01-02 08:55 AM

thx guys

anyways, i've to change the site to promote 'cause there's no many unqs at midnight prowl :( (i'll choose some site with specific content like anal or sth, then there'll be no problems 'bout what category it is...)

tell me if U can, is it better to fill one niche and to promote one site? or change them from time to time?

and one more thing - 'bout recips..... graphic or text? which're better in your oppinion?

Thank You!

Useless 2008-01-02 08:59 AM

What is that, ebonics?

papagmp 2008-01-02 09:10 AM

First, I remember back to when I just started and I had many of the same questions - hang in there - your last FS was better than the first and they will continue to get better as long as you keep and open mind to suggestions.

The issue of cat will be one regardless of sponsor and has less (or nothing) to to with the sponsor but with the the content you use on the free-site. My pay site is a teen/amateur pay site but I submit FS's to sex toys, group sex, amateur, teens, interracial, old and young, bit tits, petite, etc... Again, it's the content of the Free Site - not the sponsor.

Also, most of the LL owners like to see submissions to a variety of cats so any one cat isn't over saturated - especially with one style FS.

Since you use a general recip with me, I can look at the FS and place it in the cat I feel best - I'm happy to do this but I don't get thousands of submissions per day either.

No problem promoting various sponsors - try a few and see what works best for you. Many submitters have a number of sponsors they promote.

I don't have a preference for recips, graphic or text, as long as they are executed properly. take a look at this thread http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=44187

robcio 2008-01-02 09:10 AM

UW: what is ebonics? I don't understand, sorry

papagmp 2008-01-02 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 382259)
What is that, ebonics?

|jester| - Good morning Useless - always great to hear your humor so early in the morning.......:D

robcio 2008-01-22 04:29 AM

hi again, got another question for You.... i've made over 20 FreeSites already and i've got ratio from the beginning.... 0:2740 !
Is it possible? Not a single submit? :(

Greetings

LD 2008-01-22 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robcio (Post 382257)

and one more thing - 'bout recips..... graphic or text? which're better in your oppinion?

Thank You!

When I started using text recips, I got fewer rejects. It's the first thing a reviewer looks at, and I think text recips make for a neater looking first page. First impressions, you know.

I get submissions for my list all the time that have 16+ graphic recips, and while I don't normally reject just for that, I do believe those sites would look much, much better with text recips.

LD 2008-01-22 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robcio (Post 385139)
hi again, got another question for You.... i've made over 20 FreeSites already and i've got ratio from the beginning.... 0:2740 !
Is it possible? Not a single submit? :(

Greetings

Yes, it is possible, but for me conversion ratios seem to be improving with time. Interesting thing I notriced...my most recent sale, which happened yesterday was from a site I submitted Nov 07. I don't know about everyone else, but the initial rush of traffic I get when i first submit is often unproductive.

Add to that that some lists take a month or more just to list you, it can be a game of patience and determination.

NY Jester 2008-01-22 09:35 AM

What I find as well, is after the initial rush of a newly listed site is when some larger LL's rotate out the links to start with a particular letter..you'll see that rush again as your sites letter hits the top of that category.

Robcio..if youre finding the ratios are too poor for a certain sponsor, switch them out. use a different one or try working with a different niche.

robcio 2008-01-22 10:13 AM

Thanks guys, i've already started using text recips...
i think that i will try another sponsor.. i don't know, can you recommend some?

p.s. LusciousDelight ... your avatar is just great... that Michael hehehe :)

Mateusz 2008-01-23 02:23 PM

I checked few sponsors and ratios (FS traffic) for last year varied from 1:2000 - 1:2500 (first page clicks) so I wouldnt be expecting too much at start. And to confirm what other said - I've got only a couple of sign ups in my history within first week after site being listed, most come after 1-2 months.. and I still get SUs from sites I submited 2-3 years ago from time to time :)

stuveltje 2008-01-23 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robcio (Post 379415)
Hey guys!
Firstly i would like to say hello to everyone 'cause i'm new here :] so... HELLO!

These're my very first freesites

1. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...e_asian_whore/
2. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...orny_brunette/
3. http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite...cks_strangers/

I'd like to hear from You any comments, advices before i start to add them to link lists. Please write what i've to change etc.

Thank You,
Greetings!

the reason why i wouldnt list you, are the domains listed on the 2257, even not linked, why the hell put all those www. just anydomains.com there, i woudnt list you, not because i dont like your sites, i do like them , i wouldnt list them to protect yourself, even i just copie and past text www like that in my browser to check sites when i see them, so what if the surfer check those all and buy some , you wouldnt earn shit with that.

robcio 2008-01-23 06:14 PM

Thx :]
Mateusz: widze ze rodak :) i siedzisz juz w tym troche, ja dopiero zaczynam takze co chwile mam jakies pytania :)

so... can you tell me what is the average amount of unqs after i don't know... 6 months? and what is the average ratio...? I think i should be patient... ;]

stuveltje: shit, i've copied this link to 2257 from my sponsor's site :| my friend told me to do so.... so i should make my own 2257 only with this text on the beginning of this current 2257.... I've recently added few my sites to your alcoholinks LS and i'd like you to list me, what should i do?

Thanks

stuveltje 2008-01-24 03:21 AM

Quote:

stuveltje: shit, i've copied this link to 2257 from my sponsor's site :| my friend told me to do so.... so i should make my own 2257 only with this text on the beginning of this current 2257.... I've recently added few my sites to your alcoholinks LS and i'd like you to list me, what should i do?
wel you can make your own 2257, i would always check when you copy and past the 2257 of a sponsor if there are not links to other pornsites, its no use to put them on the 2257. btw alcoholic links isnt mine but i am the reviewer there.

robcio 2008-01-25 03:05 PM

stuveltje:

http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite..._lesbian_crew/

is it ok now?

stuveltje 2008-01-25 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robcio (Post 385903)

site looks fine to me robcio:)

robcio 2008-01-25 03:29 PM

nice to hear that :] thanks

another question, does alcoholinks send some reject/accept emails?

stuveltje 2008-01-25 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robcio (Post 385911)
nice to hear that :] thanks

another question, does alcoholinks send some reject/accept emails?

yes it does, unless i deside not to, but i always send an acception email

robcio 2008-01-25 03:38 PM

and is there some review delay? i've submitted couple sites to alcoholinks and haven't received any email

stuveltje 2008-01-25 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robcio (Post 385915)
and is there some review delay? i've submitted couple sites to alcoholinks and haven't received any email

there is an delay of 7 days, there is a reason for that, i wont tell what because its a reviewers thing (well mine reviewers thing then), i have seen your sites there, most got listed as far i know, but i will double check tomorrow about the emails, it could be that i had the option" send acception email" off.

robcio 2008-01-29 08:55 AM

hmm can you tell me what the HPA is? i assume that it's a half page add, am i right? but what exactly is that?

i got rejected this FS
http://www.stunningporn.com/freesite..._whores/adult/
from one LL due to "Too many HPA's."

Could you tell me which adds on this site are HPA's? I thought that only this big banner on the main page is a half page add but it follows that i was wrong :) Thanks for replies.


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