what the fuck PA
 

This was just posted on PA Webmaster board:....

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They have known this since Nov and has never past it on to anyone thats with PA|bullshit|. Payments have been running month late for a couple of months now.
I am looking for a new home. I have 8 sites and 2 large ones. If any one has an Idea I am listening. I use my own content and don't have the bucks for my own Merchant account.
Mike|banghead|

I'll show my ignorance....who's PA?

PROADULT

Ahhh, the joys of AVS :)

Just heard
 

Just heard from John on the board and he is not sure why that was posted and said nothing has changed. Phew....|bananna|

I still get my rebill payouts from Proadult and have not promoted them in 5 years. :)

LMAO.. when I saw this title.. i thought it was referring to the PA primary last tuesday. |jester|

Not Sure
 

Still trying to figure out what is really going on. Time will tell.
Peace Mike|headbang|

Damn... and here I thought was my perfect opportunity to refer to PA as Pittsburgh on one side, Philly on the other and Alabama in between.

i was thinking the same , because pa is the word we use in holland to name your dad:D

Lmao I thought P.A. was a nickname personally, since one of my best friends is P>A. for Phillip Allen :-)

I could not have guessed who PA was

What's the current situation? I see some drama over at the zoo re: ProAdult owing a bunch of people money, many of them in 5-figures.

They are toast as far as I can figure, and they owe me a lot of money, though not 5 figures. If you count future rebills though it's a fuckova lot more and I'd be surprised if some wm's don't lose 6 figures..
I'm losing more proportionately than I did when AC fucked everyone.
They've even removed their wm forum.

Damn, that really sucks, SheepGuy (and Mike).

You know, I'm wondering if AVN sites are still good risks -- worth putting time into developing and updating -- considering how much $$$ can be lost all at once when a company like AC or PA changes policies, changes hands, or closes down.

bad news..

King dead - salute king!

Welcome to |spam|

That's one of the bests descriptions of PA I've ever heard. |headbang|

While they certainly have an interesting "Regards Programm" I think I'll pass.

Aaah sure they are, remember when IBill went tits up? Shit happens in all areas of this business. Also, it takes me only slightly more time to build an AVS site than a free site, and the advertising inside is just as profitable.
Moving an AVS site from one company to another is not a big deal time-wise either, though moving 135 of them is taking me some time :(
This whole thing will actually work out to my advantage. PA didn't allow advertising inside their sites as much as the two companies I'm switching their sites over to, NetVerifier and CyberAge, so in a couple of months I'll be back to normal and after that I should be making more money than I was before all of this shit happened.

I do VERY well with CyberAge, and a bit less with Net Verifier. I swapped out all my join form for all my sites from PA (which were mirrors of sites on CyberAge) back to CyberAge.

To me, CyberAge really invests a lot of time and money with their models, and content, I don't see them going away any time soon. I'd be |cry| if they did, because I'd say a good 1/3 of my adult income is from my sites with them.

Mike-mijen, I'd suggest either Net Verifier or CyberAge. Net Verifier pays better, but I convert CyberAge better. So it is a toss-up on which does better.

Sheepguy, where will you be moving them to? I only have 2-3 sites with them, so maybe to Cyberage, where I already have an account. This sucks, I hate having to mess with old sites :(

Time to move my 1 premium site I have so far to cyberage it seems. :) I had a little network of AVS sites in mind so maybe this development comes right on time.

I'm moving about two thirds to NetVerifier, the rest to CyberAge. I like NetVerifier simply because they pay better and my sites convert a little better with them. RedCherry does better with CA though, and both are good outfits. NV has a deal on for new webmasters though where they give you 100% payouts for the first 60 days so if I didn't have an account there I would get one. It's also a very good idea to mirror your sites with different AVS's.

Yeah thats gotta be a real bitch SG (and Mike) - hope you cna get all straightened out. Sucks when you put good faith in a service and they dry hump your ass till you bleed.

With tube sites being all the rage, I can't imagine that AVS sites might still do that well.

You're right, think I'll just give up on a system that has made me a lot of money and still keeps me from looking for a job.
I'm tired of preaching anyways. AVS sites suck. Open up a bunch of tube sites. They are all the rage.

100% paypouts at NetVerifier for new webmasters

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Richard here with NetVerifier.com sorry to here about another company doing this. I wanted to assure anyone that thinks AVS is dead to look into our program. We are very strong company with a proven track record going on 15 years now

Yes there is still A LOT OF MONEY TO BE MADE WITH AVS!


I put together the best offer ever for new webmasters!

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No Chargeback or Refund fees EVER!

And I will throw in $40 BUCKS just for signing up



Plus we have a built in up sale program with our site UpTotheMinutePorn.com
which converts at 40% for each New NetV member with an $8 payouts on top of
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Thats up to $28.00 every month per member!


See the Details here on the 100% Payouts
https://www.netverifier.com/getpaid.asp?



NetVerifier has been here since the start of AVS's, since 1995 and still going strong.


Richard V
http://NetVerifier.com
http://HandHeldPornSites.com

ICQ Rich: 329826535

If you are already a reseller contact me to see if we can get you on the 100% program

I've been dealing with NV since '97 or '98 and thoroughly recommend them. Gotta say I also recommend a balanced approach though, if you want to make money in this biz you have to diversify, AVS is only part, though a large part, of my business model, and NetVerifier is now the largest part of my AVS part, if that makes sense ;)

And hey, I'd sure like to get in on the 100% bit ;)

Anyone who knows me knows my post about AVS sites Sucking is just a sarcastic answer to some guy who thinks he knows everything. I am still making good money at this and I'm just a little tired of hearing that the whole concept is dead.

[quote=NetVerifier;410200]100% paypouts at NetVerifier for new webmasters

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Richard here with NetVerifier.com sorry to here about another company doing this. I wanted to assure anyone that thinks AVS is dead to look into our program. We are very strong company with a proven track record going on 15 years now

Yes there is still A LOT OF MONEY TO BE MADE WITH AVS!


I put together the best offer ever for new webmasters!

100% COMMISION ON ALL SALES FOR 60 DAYS! YES TWO FULL MONTHS

No Chargeback or Refund fees EVER!

And I will throw in $40 BUCKS just for signing up



Plus we have a built in up sale program with our site UpTotheMinutePorn.com
which converts at 40% for each New NetV member with an $8 payouts on top of
the $20.00 recurring payout on NetVerifier.

Thats up to $28.00 every month per member!


See the Details here on the 100% Payouts
https://www.netverifier.com/getpaid.asp?



NetVerifier has been here since the start of AVS's, since 1995 and still going strong.


Richard V
http://NetVerifier.com
http://HandHeldPornSites.com

ICQ Rich: 329826535

If you are already a reseller contact me to see if we can get you on the 100% program[/QUOTE

Damn Thats sounds real good. I have a ton of my own content. We should Talk soon. I have my own server for traffice and all. I also have girls ready for their own sites.
Please get with me soon on this.
Thanks Mike

Sent you a pm.. ICQ or call the office Monday and we can go from there.

Richard V
http://NetVerifier.com
http://HandHeldPornSites.com

ICQ Rich: 329826535

You've got a PM from me as well Richard