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troy 2004-02-11 10:08 AM

Google what happend?
 
Hi,

I had always a first page listing with this site
http://www.germangoogirl.net
on the search german goo girls
And my free sites where in the top 10.

Sice february I can't find my page any more although I have a higher page rank than ever.
I only made a change from my main ggg.html to GGG/ggg.html

Only on the first page of german goo girl in google is porn after that its mostly music like German beer drinking songs and
Pure Bastard Rock German Art Students lol

Has someone any idea what happend and what to do about it?

McSpike 2004-02-11 12:42 PM

Austin update is what happened, dude. You and a gazillion of others found themselves in the same position.

xxxjay 2004-02-11 01:03 PM

wierd

we need to stop naming these updates

it'sgay

Linkster 2004-02-11 01:22 PM

"its gay" - isnt that one of those new metrosexual terms |jester|

eatapeach 2004-02-11 09:40 PM

i like the new google.

just the other day I was looking for info on hot tubs and found the most interesting site about making your own tampons and pads. it seems that some ladies don't like the store bought supplies so they make their own at home.

i don't know what tampons have to do with hot tubs, but i would never have seen that site if it wasn't for the new google algorithm.

thanks google!

Cleo 2004-02-11 09:57 PM

Nice to see that I'm still number one for Cleo's Links. Next update I was thinking of going for the top spot of gay midgets who like windshield wipers.

Vendzilla 2004-02-11 11:32 PM

the google dance really sucks, my tgp has been all over the place, first page for months then page 330!

troy 2004-02-12 04:42 AM

Are they changing thoso algorithms again or whas this it?

Hmmm.. I don't think so.

I wander if they still know what they are doing.

adamneve 2004-02-12 09:27 AM

google is changing every hour of the day

TrafficFreak 2004-02-12 07:36 PM

I wish they would make up their minds as they are making it damn near impossible to optimize for Search Engine traffic any more LOL

urb 2004-02-13 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TrafficFreak
they are making it damn near impossible to optimize for Search Engine traffic any more LOL
This seems to be the whole point of what they are doing.

Kush 2004-02-13 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TrafficFreak
I wish they would make up their minds as they are making it damn near impossible to optimize for Search Engine traffic any more LOL
That is a good thing.
Stick to solid, honest, diverse SE strategy and you will be rewarded in the end.

Nige 2004-02-13 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kush
That is a good thing.
Stick to solid, honest, diverse SE strategy and you will be rewarded in the end.

I left you a message on icq, please hit me up as soon as possible, it's important. Thanks

TrafficFreak 2004-02-14 12:17 AM

Oh I definitely agree with you Kush, I just think that a lot of people have forgotten what good, honest Search Engine work is all about LOL

chowda 2004-02-14 01:27 AM

ahh, so ur mister ggg.

Kush 2004-02-16 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nige
I left you a message on icq, please hit me up as soon as possible, it's important. Thanks
I have your message.
I was in New Orleans all weekend but I'm back now.
You can catch me probably in the late morning sometime.

SomeCreep 2004-02-17 01:26 PM

Re: Google what happend?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by troy
Hi,

I had always a first page listing with this site
http://www.germangoogirl.net
on the search german goo girls

I've been watching "GGG" vids for years and never knew what that stood for. "German Goo Girls" |thumb

troy 2004-02-19 05:18 AM

All the former german goo girl sites are back on their place now eccept mine |angry|

Can someone take a look and tell me what I am doing wrong?
http://www.germangoogirl.net/

The page are filled with good text not spam and is tottaly build around german goo girls and GGG has a pr4 but google still thinks it is not relevant.

I made one change a few weeks ago to put the main page in a folder GGG/ggg.html I changed it back to germangoogirls.html


This is costing me a lot of money :(

Thanks

eatapeach 2004-02-19 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by troy
Can someone take a look and tell me what I am doing wrong?

This is costing me a lot of money :(

hey troy, i feel for you. a lot of people have seen their income drop in the last 2 google updates, and not because anything they have done wrong.

that being said, here's what i'd recommend:

since google gives much higher rankings to link lists right now you could turn your site into a private link list. make sure to use KEYWORD RICH anchor text out and put as many links out as you possibly can. trade links so you have spiders visiting often and add content regularly so they keep coming back.

build free sites and galleries and get linked from the big link lists and tgps. since they are at the top of the serps right now you'll still be getting the SE traffic, just one click removed from google. bring that traffic to your site and do with it what you will.

another thing i'd do is try to attract spiders from as many other search engines as possible, as well as paid inclusion and paid spidering. yahoo is not using google results now and msn is spidering for what might be a new search engine. google is probably not going to be what it was in the past and that's a good thing.

good luck!

eatapeach

Pusher 2004-02-19 02:45 PM

Found this on CNN about Google:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/interne....ap/index.html

I wonder where the extra 1 billion web pages came from|noclue|

TrafficFreak 2004-02-19 10:45 PM

I don't know, but they finally listed some of mine THANK GOD LOL

troy 2004-02-20 04:51 AM

thanks for your advice eatapeach

ChristyB 2004-02-21 12:57 AM

Hi Troy :)

Couple of things that would also help IMO:

1/. Stick to a maximum limit of 3 times for any word in any one meta-tag.

2/. Validate your html - you have several tags which aren't closed (particularly
tags) and several which don't 'nest' correctly... if you get all your code correct on all your pages you will be amazed at the improvement you get in serps.

3/. Font Header Tags:
Break your first

tag into 2 parts - Use the large yellow text as your entire

and assign

to the next line.
Make the red line of text (there is something new going on... etc etc) an

and the same for the yellow text "Extreme Bukkake... etc".
The paragraph below that should be body text (format the font how you like but don't use an .
Use

tags for your main enter link.

4/. Avoid using font format tags inside your , style tags or a style sheet will allow you to format font easier and make your page load faster.

5/. What eatapeach said - also - with the pr4 you have you could already get some link swaps on there.

6/. You are combining the same words together - in the same order - too often... ("german goo girls" and "german goo girl" make up 55% of your three word phrases) - you might want to shave that down a little - like changing a few to things like "german cum loving goo drinking sexy girls" - you still get your keywords in - in the same order - but you break up the identical phrases and pull other search terms as a bonus!

7/. Don't blame me if you do all this and then google kicks in with another "world mystifying algorithm" which makes it all wrong :)


troy 2004-02-21 03:36 AM

Hi Christy :),

Thats some good advice I am going to work on that.
Still not understand that I was on page 1 last month and now I can't find it anymore.

Thanks a lot
|roses|

Anyone know how you can find on whitch page you are in google?

Linkster 2004-02-21 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by troy
All the former german goo girl sites are back on their place now eccept mine


For a search for "german goo girl" I see you on the second page around #15 or so - but with the update still in progress it will be all over the place Im sure - remember to use the quotes on the search as Google seems to be returning a lot of sites for goo goo girls without the quotes

and I usually just set my preferences to 100 results per page if Im looking for something

ChristyB 2004-02-21 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by troy

Anyone know how you can find on whitch page you are in google?

Try this: http://www.googlerankings.com/index.php

troy 2004-02-26 02:20 PM

Sorry can't let go

On the search german goo girl/s my placing now is 463 so I went from 9 to 463.

I good be I was spamming the phrase to much like Christy said but if I look for german goo which is even more on the page I am number 8 again|crazy|

Can someone explain this?

Pusher 2004-02-26 04:15 PM

ChristyB,

Try this - it's a nice Google monitor that lets you check any number
of keywords for any number of sites...got it from Cleo a while back...

http://www.cleverstat.com/google-monitor-query.htm

ChristyB 2004-02-28 10:58 PM

Hi Troy,

There are lots of possible reasons... but I would guess the biggest reason was removing those urls... (when I made my earlier post I had missed your remark about that)!

Now I see you took away some pages - which were ranked quite well... The replacement urls haven't been ranked yet (don't even seem to have been found)!

Google still have those old pages listed but they're going 404 - If I were you I'd put them back - it might help reverse the trend you're seeing (plus those pages may be getting clicks and right now you're wasting that traffic)!

When you removed them you should've done this:
DD Said in another thread
Quote:

Lee,
As long as you move the page as it is... and dont change it too much till its re-spidered in its new home, you can do an htaccess permanent redirect.
This shows the SE spiders that the page has moved to a new home and that the original no longer exists..
it also catches any stray traffic coming via the old url

Also - You really should rewrite that index page, there are loads of errors - (and fix the broken link at the foot of the page)...

All those things would have impacted your pr and your serps but the biggest one (probably) was removing those pages.

Thanks Pusher :)

troy 2004-02-29 05:31 AM

Thanks Christy,

About the links I have seen that myself and put everything back I even put up a extra page and maybe more so I have more inbound links I also link them togher in paragraph checked my HTML and removed the errors.

Now see what happens.
Thanks again for your good advice
|roses|

ChristyB 2004-02-29 09:56 PM

My pleasure Troy,

I'm no expert, (certainly not in the same league as DD or Linkster) but I'm sure it will improve your chances...

One other thing you might want to do when you have time is to take a look at css / style sheets, you can use them to clean up your code a lot, also to format your header tags - (I'm not sure but if you use

tags around other font format tags it may negate your

value).

Good luck anyway - and say 'hi' to mlilah from me :)


troy 2004-03-01 02:33 AM

I am in the middle of a course CSS
For the H tags I define the px in CSS but I need a couple of weeks to learn it better.

M'lilah says hi Back :)


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