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Naughty Ace 2008-07-09 07:03 PM

Naughty America - New Director of Affiliates
 
Dear Naughty America Affiliates,

This post is to inform you of our new Director of Affiliates Joe Johnson. He'll be posting here himself as he gets to know all of you and builds up his post count. As always I'll be available for any questions or help in marketing Naughty America. Please help me welcome Joe and read what he has to say:

I am Joe Johnson, the newly appointed Director of Affiliates for Naughty America.

I am very excited to be a part of the Naughty America Affiliate Team! From its humble beginnings to where it is today, Naughty America has grown into a front runner with its unique and playfully sexy content. Although the content sells itself I understand it obviously can’t do so without the exposure that you provide. With a sales and customer service background, I understand that I am working for you to make your relationship with Naughty America long and profitable. One you can rely on and regain trust and confidence by returning to the industry standard of affiliate relations and customer service.
To get Naughty America back to a strong stance with the affiliate market, we are making some drastic changes, changes you will welcome because they will help build a long future with stable growth. To build that future we will use trusted and familiar programs that have become industry standards for accurately tracking your sales.
• Naughty America is switching to the NATS affiliate solution. NATS is the trusted industry standard in tracking hits and sales. You will now have confidence in a tried and true application that is easy to understand and operate.

• We offer all the expected affiliate tools and try to stay fresh with market trends by offering our content on innovative platforms; Weekly FHGs, banners, direct model linking, custom affiliate templates, as well as tube clips, iframes, direct model sites, and soon to come, fully dynamic flash embeds. We will take the time to customize and personalize your affiliate tools to help conversions.

• Revenue Sharing has proven to be the business model we want to share with our affiliates. Given our high retention rates, this business model builds trust and mutual forward growth. Naughty America will be discontinuing the Pay Per Sign Up model due to its attraction to fraud.

• We will be offering checks for US and Canadian affiliates and wire transfers for international affiliates, as method of payment. If you wish to receive a wire, please contact your bank and get the proper information from a knowledgeable bank employee that understands wire transfer parameters. Epassporte is no longer a payment option. We will find a better solution that is more secure. All wire costs and international shipping will be absorbed by the affiliate.

As the Director of Affiliates for Naughty America, I believe these changes will bring us back to the industry standard in affiliate relations. I hold myself responsible and accountable for the growth in sales for our collaborative companies because I know the affiliates come first!

To Log into Your Naughty America Affiliate Account or to Sign Up, Click Here

My contact information is as follows:
joe |@| naughtyamerica.com
icq: 478535569
blog: http://affiliateblog.naughtyamerica.com/

Sincerely,
Joe Johnson
Director of Affiliates
Naughty America

DangerDave 2008-07-09 10:15 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not fucking NATS!!!!

Another program bites the dust:(

Quote:

NATS is the trusted industry standard in tracking hits and sales. You will now have confidence in a tried and true application that is easy to understand and operate.
Not true.. it is not trusted by affiliates.. it is not easy to understand, and it is not easy to operate..

DD

Useless 2008-07-10 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naughty Ace (Post 409089)
Naughty America is switching to the NATS affiliate solution. NATS is the trusted industry standard in tracking hits and sales. You will now have confidence in a tried and true application that is easy to understand and operate.

Why does every sponsor who switches to NATS try to ram this nonsense down our throats? Industry standard? Perhaps. Trusted? Think again.

Cleo 2008-07-10 09:24 AM

Is NATS now bundled with lube?

FromTom 2008-07-11 01:13 PM

Congrats Joe! You definitely deserve it!

Greenguy 2008-07-12 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerDave (Post 409100)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not fucking NATS!!!!

Another program bites the dust:(....

I remember telling you years ago that I thought they were using a custom form of NATS because some of the features they had looked exactly like NATS (like the sales totals in one area & the dollar amounts in another - also the dollar amounts being the transaction total & not your cut, which was displayed underneath)

Me thinks DDave has been using NATS all along :D

Preacher 2008-07-12 03:29 PM

Their stats can't be any worse than how they used to be displayed, I'll take the default nats stats over the pile of crap they used to display any day.

I'm just talking about their stats, complain all you want about everything else.

thenaughtygirl 2008-07-14 02:29 PM

We are forgetting what this thread is about- Joe's move to Affiliate Director. Let's all welcome him onboard.

Useless 2008-07-14 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenaughtygirl (Post 409686)
We are forgetting what this thread is about- Joe's move to Affiliate Director. Let's all welcome him onboard.

Nah - fuck Joe. Why would we care about his new job?

InfoGuy 2008-07-18 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naughty Ace (Post 409089)
• Naughty America is switching to the NATS affiliate solution. NATS is the trusted industry standard in tracking hits and sales. You will now have confidence in a tried and true application that is easy to understand and operate.

Was NATS implemeted on Tuesday the 15th? Since then, NA reported clicks have plunged about 90%, while traffic to my site (according to AWStats) and reports from other sponsors have both remained steady. |huh

Anyone else see a problem in their accounts or is it just me?

Greenguy 2008-07-18 01:10 PM

I know there's a couple of options as far as how the stats are displayed in NATS, but why would anyone choose the one where the clciks & sales are in one table & the money is in a 2nd table underneath the 1st? These are numbers that really need to be on the same fucking line!

I also see that they fucking turned off the stats_detailed.php trick to get around this annoying problem |banghead|

THIS IS ONE REASON WHY PEOPLE HATE NATS - PROGRAM OWNERS THAT THINK BELLS AND WHISTLES AND ADVANCED OPTIONS ARE HELPFUL WHEN IN REALITY THAT MAKE THINGS MUCH WORSE!!!

(I also hate people that post announcements & never come back to see if anyone had a comment)

Greenguy 2008-07-18 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenaughtygirl (Post 409686)
We are forgetting what this thread is about- Joe's move to Affiliate Director. Let's all welcome him onboard.

Welcome aboard Joe |waves|

That's called spin. Or maybe it's called a distraction. I'm not sure, but affiliates don't really care who the affiliate manager is unless they've personally met them or dealt with them in the past. We just care that he can do his job when we have a question.

The BIG thing in this announcement is NATS - it's massive as far as NA is concerned because this it the 3rd affiliate admin for NA this year. (it's the 4th in the last 3 years & IMHO the move to whatever admin was used in Oct 2005 was a mess as well)

Maybe Joe can stop by & answer a few questions for us?

DangerDave 2008-07-22 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 410316)

Maybe Joe can stop by & answer a few questions for us?

Like which stats are right?
Are they both counting..?
Do they work independently.. depending on which link code you use?
Where is the side menu in the ES version?

DD

Greenguy 2008-07-23 09:43 AM

Good thing you bumped this DDave, ebcause I emailed Joe on the 18th & he replied within 24 hours & said that he'd been busy with the relaunch, but he'd come back & look at this thread.

|huh

DangerDave 2008-07-23 08:41 PM

:( well if we don't get some answers soon... I will send this thread to Mark..

DD

InfoGuy 2008-07-25 02:08 AM

Now, it all makes sense. I was originally looking at the es subdomain. I wasn't aware that the stats from NATS were moved over to a new stats subdomain. Thanks guys.

Greenguy 2008-08-05 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyAmerica
http://www.greenguysboard.com/announcements/08/080805naughtyamerica.html
Dear Naughty America Affiliate:

Due to changes in our accounting practices, the minimum payouts beginning this week will be changed. Checks are now sent when a minimum of $250 is reached and wire transfers are sent at a minimum of $500. Naughty America will continue to be on weekly pay periods...

WOW! I'd love to hear why this policy is in place.

I think this is the highest minimum payout I've ever seen.

Why not just announce that you don't want small affiliates?

Toby 2008-08-05 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 413450)
Why not just announce that you don't want small affiliates?

Y'know, given all the other BS that's gone on at NA over the last year or so I'm not so sure these guys have enough insight to formulate such an idea.

I have a hunch that the all they are looking at is the fees associated with each payout and how to reduce those, without any regard to the side effects of their solution and whether that will actually cost them more.

The content is great, but management is clueless.

Tekster 2008-08-05 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 413450)
...
Why not just announce that you don't want small affiliates?

I think you hit the nail in the head!

ArtWilliams 2008-08-05 09:25 AM

This is a my program and it does concern me a great deal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby (Post 413475)
Y'know, given all the other BS that's gone on at NA over the last year or so I'm not so sure these guys have enough insight to formulate such an idea.

I have a hunch that the all they are looking at is the fees associated with each payout and how to reduce those, without any regard to the side effects of their solution and whether that will actually cost them more.

The content is great, but management is clueless.


CrazySy 2008-08-05 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 413450)
Why not just announce that you don't want small affiliates?

|thumb

To me it does not matter what they change. They have NEVER paid my on time and paid me whatever they wanted rather than the amount owed. Their support fucking sucks, those two girls who work there remind me of "Dumb and Dumber". :)

HC-Majick 2008-08-05 10:54 AM

It seems they are backtracking on the raised minimum payments now according to a post over on the Zoo...

Greenguy 2008-08-05 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HC-Majick (Post 413500)
It seems they are backtracking on the raised minimum payments now according to a post over on the Zoo...

Of course. Why would they pay attention to a board that they only |spam| when they can talk to all the popular webmasters & surfers over at GFY?

I can't wait until they finally get back over here & post that "Due to unforeseen complications with the raised minimum payouts that were brought to our attention on another board blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...."

I could see them ignoring this board if they didn't START THIS THREAD!
I could see them ignoring this board if Joe didn't reply back to my email saying he'd be by to post THREE WEEKS AGO!
I could see them not wanting to answer NATS questions since whoever set it up for them IS A BUTTON PUSHING BELLS & WHISTLES BUFFOON!

I need a smiley of a can of spam shitting on the GG&Jim logo.

NaughtyJohnson 2008-08-05 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 413521)
Of course. Why would they pay attention to a board that they only |spam| when they can talk to all the popular webmasters & surfers over at GFY?

I can't wait until they finally get back over here & post that "Due to unforeseen complications with the raised minimum payouts that were brought to our attention on another board blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...."

I could see them ignoring this board if they didn't START THIS THREAD!
I could see them ignoring this board if Joe didn't reply back to my email saying he'd be by to post THREE WEEKS AGO!
I could see them not wanting to answer NATS questions since whoever set it up for them IS A BUTTON PUSHING BELLS & WHISTLES BUFFOON!

I need a smiley of a can of spam shitting on the GG&Jim logo.

First off, I deserve the shit being thrown in my direction as I should have been here a long time ago. When I was appointed this position it didn't exactly come with a hand book to be thrown into the fire with.

Let the tomatoes be thrown... or you can ask me questions about issues that I can help resolve.

Where is the quiz to take for checking out the news section? Just kidding.

We can discuss here or I'm always on email and icq.

I apologize for neglecting to come over sooner.

NaughtyJohnson 2008-08-05 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HC-Majick (Post 413500)
It seems they are backtracking on the raised minimum payments now according to a post over on the Zoo...

You could call it backtracking or you could call it squeaky wheelS get the grease. We didn't think the response would be that adverse. We also did a bunch of reports showing what affiliates make here.

We had affiliates asked for theirs to be raised and thought we would check it out for all. It wasn't well received and I'm listening. We set it at $100.

Greenguy 2008-08-05 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyJohnson (Post 413557)
...We had affiliates asked for theirs to be raised and thought we would check it out for all...

So instead of telling the affiliates that asked for a higher payout minimum to go into the admin & change it to anything from $100 to $500 on their own, Naughty America changed it for EVERYONE?!?! You really expect people to believe this?


Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyJohnson (Post 413556)
...Let the tomatoes be thrown... or you can ask me questions about issues that I can help resolve...

I only started to throw tomato's 2 weeks after you said you'd stop by & answer the questions....which are still unanswered (don't just read today's stuff, read all the posts after the thread was started)

I'll quote them for you here so that you can easity find them without a handbook:

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 410261)
Was NATS implemeted on Tuesday the 15th? Since then, NA reported clicks have plunged about 90%, while traffic to my site (according to AWStats) and reports from other sponsors have both remained steady. |huh

Anyone else see a problem in their accounts or is it just me?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 410314)
I know there's a couple of options as far as how the stats are displayed in NATS, but why would anyone choose the one where the clicks & sales are in one table & the money is in a 2nd table underneath the 1st? These are numbers that really need to be on the same fucking line!

I also see that they fucking turned off the stats_detailed.php trick to get around this annoying problem |banghead|

THIS IS ONE REASON WHY PEOPLE HATE NATS - PROGRAM OWNERS THAT THINK BELLS AND WHISTLES AND ADVANCED OPTIONS ARE HELPFUL WHEN IN REALITY THAT MAKE THINGS MUCH WORSE!!!

(I also hate people that post announcements & never come back to see if anyone had a comment)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerDave (Post 410965)
Like which stats are right?
Are they both counting..?
Do they work independently.. depending on which link code you use?
Where is the side menu in the ES version?

DD


Preacher 2008-08-06 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyJohnson (Post 413556)
First off, I deserve the shit being thrown in my direction as I should have been here a long time ago. When I was appointed this position it didn't exactly come with a hand book to be thrown into the fire with....

Which is exactly why -- IMO -- affiliate managers should have experience as affiliates prior to getting a job which entails helping affiliates make more money and resolving affiliate issues.

When I signed up to NA, I couldn't make heads or tails of their wacky stats. This is the only active sponsor I have with this issue. The stats have changed a few times and they are still bad.

I pulled all of my links yesterday when I received notice of the $500 minimum, and I will not be putting those links back up. But then again, I'm a small affiliate so I doubt NA really cares. |huh

I guess you can keep the $50 you owe me too. |thumb

Useless 2008-08-06 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 413521)
I need a smiley of a can of spam shitting on the GG&Jim logo.

You have a sick mind.
...but ok:
http://www.maladaptedmedia.com/board/shitspam.gif
A more generic shat upon one:
http://www.maladaptedmedia.com/board/shiton.gif
And an very easy piss on one:
http://www.maladaptedmedia.com/board/pisson.gif

Of course, you don't have to use them just because I wasted a solid hour on them. |cry| I bet the folks at Master-X will use them on their board. |jester|

Greenguy 2008-08-06 05:45 PM

|shitspam

I love it - fits this thread to a T!


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