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drtongue 2004-09-21 12:34 PM

TPG or Free Site?
 
Would like some feedback on this topic. I have a bunch of free sites out there that are not performing as well as I would have hoped. The traffic is coming in but the banner clicks are miserable and I am not making any money.

My questions to all of you out there are this:

1. TPG or Free Site? Which ones have given the most of you the best success on making some money off of them?

2. What is the best converting content? Lesbian? Gay? Hardcore? MILF? etc etc.

Its getting frustrating for me to spend the time and effort to get the sites up and get the traffic and not see the results. There has got to be a way!

TIA
DT

Ramster 2004-09-21 12:39 PM

Things are not what they use to be. TGP is tough if you are not known by the site owners. Best bet in TGP is to buy partner accounts at the monthly rates they offer.

Free Sites? Keep building and make them SE friendly.

Greenguy 2004-09-21 12:41 PM

TGP & Free Sites aren't exactly the same category - remember:

TGP is to Link List as Galleries are to Free Sites :)

Of course, with every free site you build, you're probably building 2 galleries as well, so save copies of those & submit them to TGP's - it's like killing 2 nirds with one stone :)

As far as what converts better, I think it's party due to what you like & thus are able to honestly market to the surfers.

Kinky 2004-09-21 12:44 PM

most of it is just good old trial and error... some people swear by TGP and some swear by free sites... there really is no easy or right or wrong answer to your questions... you just have to keep trying until you find what works for you.... maybe try posting links to a few of your free sites in the Link List forum and ask for others to critique them or give you some tips to help get more click thrus and signups

(and remember that selling porn is a marathon.... not a sprint... it takes some time before the money starts rolling in)

Corleone 2004-09-21 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ramster
Things are not what they use to be. TGP is tough if you are not known by the site owners. Best bet in TGP is to buy partner accounts at the monthly rates they offer.

Free Sites? Keep building and make them SE friendly.

The best accounts are free :)

Just keep on submitting and after a few accepted galls ask for a PA... you can get some stable traffic to your TGPS very fast... but don't expect crazy ratios like 1:50 with tgp traffic...

1:700 is fine..

FS are great for google etc...

As GG said build a free site submit and build 2 galls out of the FS to get maximum traffic to your offers...


the best converting niche? not sure... every niche does well if you promote them right + you need niche traffic...

niche tgps & LLs will send you the best traffic...

the New Shemp 2004-09-21 02:29 PM

listen tongue....we dont need anymore TGPs ;)

HowlingWulf 2004-09-22 05:41 PM

If you mean galleries vs free sites, I would do galleries with a 3rd link out to your SEO Hub.

Certifiedbitch 2004-09-23 04:36 AM

do you mean galleries vs. free sites?

Trax 2004-09-23 06:49 AM

those 2 are hard to compare...

I buy gallery spots generating more than 450k uniques a day to my galleries which means a lot of signups to my paysites

Thats nearly impossible to be done with freesites.
However I am HIGHLY in love with my own freesites and the SE traffic they get.

I won't answer #2 |greenguy|

Vendzilla 2004-09-23 11:46 PM

I'm still exploring the whole tgp thing, a niche tgp with 50k a day would be nice, getting there!

STEVEN 2004-09-24 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
it's like killing 2 nirds with one stone :)
hey, what do you have against nirds? |angry|

Greenguy 2004-09-24 07:01 AM

Tucking Fypos!!!!!! :D

manmal 2004-09-25 03:22 PM

If you asked me right now I would say tgp but 1 year ago when I was very active in building free sites then I would say free sites - but ether way what ever you chose just put a lot of effort in the work and the money will come I'm sure about that. It take times . About the niches for me : shemale is on first place then spanking bbw mature smoking.

Kinky you are wise ( and remember that selling porn is a marathon.... not a sprint... it takes some time before the money starts rolling in )

Thank you |roses|

IvanM 2004-09-27 06:31 PM

All greetings!
I'm the first time on this forum but as advanced tgp poster I'll tell, that at once will be not possible to receive quckly money from posting galleries.
I can recommend to use the sponsor's content who is universal on niches.
For example, set in which "hardcore action of blonde in stocking", can participate in posting general tgps and teen tgps and in narrow fetish tgps.
Thus, you initially expand geography of posting.
Only so in the beginning quickly enough it is possible to generate own base for the further work.

Chop Smith 2004-09-29 08:36 PM

Has to be one of the most asked questions boards. Here are some numbers that I put together recently:

SALES CLICKS BANDWIDTH RATIO
Link List 89% 75% 37% 1:1620
TGP 11% 25% 63% 1:4408

chilihost 2004-09-30 06:35 PM

Re: TPG or Free Site?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by drtongue
The traffic is coming in but the banner clicks are miserable
Banner's have been known to be poor performers, try using some unique teaser text and giving your surfers the desire to click to your sponsor.

Maybe it also has to do with your particular sites or sponsors, have you tried changing things around a bit to spice it up?


cheers,
Luke

chilihost 2004-09-30 06:36 PM

D'oh, forgot to answer your question.

Stick with freesites, if you ar frustrated by poor conversions with your freesites you will be suicidal off the even poorer conversions of tgp galleries!

cheers,
Luke


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