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tgmjr 2004-12-24 10:50 AM

Keys to successful SE placement?
 
I've been reading through almost 7 pages of this forum and haven't found enough information on what I'm looking for. Maybe I didn't look hard enough, I don't know.

So my question is. What exactly are the keys to getting good SE placement? Specifics would be great. What META tags are ones you should use? What keywords should I use? Popular ones? Not so popular ones? How many? What other tricks of the trade are there that SEO people get paid to do for you. I understand that if you don't want to give out your secrets or anything, but any and all help would be much appreciated, and please, don't limit your suggestions and comments to just the questions I've asked. If looking at my site would help, it's in my signature.

The reason I'm asking is because I've had very good success with obtaining traffic, just not SE traffic or productive traffic. I've only had 3 sign-ups from twistys.com and I've gotten almost 95k uniques this month.

Once again, thanks for taking the time to read and reply to this thread.

DangerDave 2004-12-24 04:18 PM

tgmjr,

That is some big ass questions you have there... and on christmas eve/day :D

Dont expect an answer just yet.....

The first thing you ahve to work out.. is what words are you targetting....?? and then go from there... Give us some ideas of what you are trying to achieve.?

DD

FTS 2004-12-24 06:26 PM

what you want are links from high PR sites,

although some people say that recip links dont work well nowadays,

at the beginning you might want to target words/phrases with little competition to start generating a little bit of SE traffic, and as that grows, move on to bigger and harder terms...

it really comes down to how much time you have searching out link exchanges, how unique your site and how much researhc you do..

check out seochat.com and webmasterworld.com

hope that helps... and have a merry xmas, im out now :)

SEO_Konsul 2004-12-26 05:19 AM

Re: Keys to successful SE placement?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tgmjr
I've been reading through almost 7 pages of this forum and haven't found enough information on what I'm looking for. Maybe I didn't look hard enough, I don't know.

So my question is. What exactly are the keys to getting good SE placement? Specifics would be great. What META tags are ones you should use? What keywords should I use? Popular ones? Not so popular ones? How many? What other tricks of the trade are there that SEO people get paid to do for you. I understand that if you don't want to give out your secrets or anything, but any and all help would be much appreciated, and please, don't limit your suggestions and comments to just the questions I've asked. If looking at my site would help, it's in my signature.

The reason I'm asking is because I've had very good success with obtaining traffic, just not SE traffic or productive traffic. I've only had 3 sign-ups from twistys.com and I've gotten almost 95k uniques this month.

Once again, thanks for taking the time to read and reply to this thread.

There are many different keys for getting good SE rankings, some of them are easy to make and some are not, some can be done easily by yourself and some you'll need help from some others. Let me list some of the ones that can be easily made by yourself:

1. Titles and Headers: Use titles and headers that you think fits your site the best, don't try to just to use the most popular or the ones you think there would be most traffic for (also don't forget: traffic is only worth if it's accurate)

2. When submitting to directories or linklists make sure to make a goog description that fits your site the best. Don't just try to submit as quick as possible so you can submit a doorway page to other directories/linklists. Probably it is better to spend more time on your description.

tgmjr 2004-12-30 01:07 PM

Re: Re: Keys to successful SE placement?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DangerDave
tgmjr,

That is some big ass questions you have there... and on christmas eve/day :D

Dont expect an answer just yet.....

I kinda expoected so, especially seeing as I was gonna be gone for a few days as well.

Quote:

Originally posted by DangerDave
The first thing you ahve to work out.. is what words are you targetting....?? and then go from there... Give us some ideas of what you are trying to achieve.?

DD

I was looking through my awstats and noticed I do get some hits from SEs and I compiled the ones I get the most from which are veronika vanoza, amanda lexx, hottest babes ever, hottest girls alive, suzanne stokes, nude, hotties, hotty, hottest females, hotties with bodies. I went with mainly phrases because I saw that I was getting keywords that were phrases as well.


Quote:

Originally posted by FTS
what you want are links from high PR sites,

although some people say that recip links dont work well nowadays,

at the beginning you might want to target words/phrases with little competition to start generating a little bit of SE traffic, and as that grows, move on to bigger and harder terms...

Well the only problem when it comes to higher PR sites linking you is that most don't like linking lower PR sites, especially ones with no PR like mine. As far as target keyphrases anbd keywords I found this handy little tool http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1&hl=en
I used that to help me determin which keywords I was going to use.

Quote:

Originally posted by FTS
it really comes down to how much time you have searching out link exchanges, how unique your site and how much researhc you do..

check out seochat.com and webmasterworld.com

hope that helps... and have a merry xmas, im out now :)

I have all the time in the world for link exchanges, but up until I found this site, the only webmaster forums I knew about were GFY and CFUS.net. As far as how unique my site is, from what I know, babeblogs are just starting to get big. Hopefully that doesn't damper how 'unique' it is. I've been trying to research as much as possible, but do to my dyslexia, it's hard for me to understand a lot of the technical mumbo jumbo that SE sites use.

Quote:

Originally posted by SEO_Konsul
There are many different keys for getting good SE rankings, some of them are easy to make and some are not, some can be done easily by yourself and some you'll need help from some others. Let me list some of the ones that can be easily made by yourself:

1. Titles and Headers: Use titles and headers that you think fits your site the best, don't try to just to use the most popular or the ones you think there would be most traffic for (also don't forget: traffic is only worth if it's accurate)

2. When submitting to directories or linklists make sure to make a goog description that fits your site the best. Don't just try to submit as quick as possible so you can submit a doorway page to other directories/linklists. Probably it is better to spend more time on your description.

1. I have been doing that, I even went as far as trying to use as many alt tags as well. Hopefully google doesn't think I'm trying to spam keywords or phrases. I really don't know what they consider spamming so who knows.

2. Well with what my site is about, what would you suggest is a good google description?

Thanks for all who replied, hopefully this discussion can go somewhat further.

LB 2005-01-02 04:44 AM

Its like baking a cake ... a little of this a few of those a little of that. You need a good chunk of text, your target keywords in your anchor text, a decent title with your keyword(s) is also essential, and a few more things and then you have your cake. But just having a site optimised for the SE's wont bring you good results, you need people linking to you with your keywords in their anchor text.

The more contested the keywords, generally the more link backs required and from a lot of different c-classes and different ip's. Also a gradual increase on your inbound link trades helps ... not one huge dump of 1000 links to your site, because google notices those kinda things and can penalise you for it.

The bigger and more content rich your site is, and the more people who link to it, the higher you tend to climb in the SERPS ;) Thats generally it ;)

SEO_Konsul 2005-01-02 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LB
Its like baking a cake ... a little of this a few of those a little of that. You need a good chunk of text, your target keywords in your anchor text, a decent title with your keyword(s) is also essential, and a few more things and then you have your cake. But just having a site optimised for the SE's wont bring you good results, you need people linking to you with your keywords in their anchor text.

The more contested the keywords, generally the more link backs required and from a lot of different c-classes and different ip's. Also a gradual increase on your inbound link trades helps ... not one huge dump of 1000 links to your site, because google notices those kinda things and can penalise you for it.

The bigger and more content rich your site is, and the more people who link to it, the higher you tend to climb in the SERPS ;) Thats generally it ;)

very nice way to describe it |haha


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