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natalie 2005-05-04 09:35 PM

Googles Web Accelerator = mega bw??
 
I just found this and think it may have repercussions on our bandwidth use! Not positive because I havent read it all yet..

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/29319.htm

If that link doesnt work heres a bit of what its about.. (from webmasterworld)

Google Web Accelerator significantly reduces the time that it takes broadband users to download and view web pages. The Google Web Accelerator appears as a small speedometer in the browser chrome with a cumulative "Time saved" indicator.
Here's how it works. A user downloads and installs the client and begins
browsing the web as she normally would. In the background, the Google Web
Accelerator employs a number of techniques to speed up the delivery of
content to users.


If it goes through all the links on a page and caches the pages that are linked to imagine our bandwidth! There should be a way to block it and we may need to. If you see a big increase in your hits soon this may be the cause. |shocking|

natalie 2005-05-04 09:38 PM

hmm still reading and it seems that another problem will occur with ppc links... it will generate fake clicks as the agent goes through clicking on all the links.

http://webaccelerator.google.com/webmasterhelp.html this explains it from googles side

airdick 2005-05-04 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natalie
I just found this and think it may have repercussions on our bandwidth use! Not positive because I havent read it all yet..

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/29319.htm

If that link doesnt work heres a bit of what its about.. (from webmasterworld)

Google Web Accelerator significantly reduces the time that it takes broadband users to download and view web pages. The Google Web Accelerator appears as a small speedometer in the browser chrome with a cumulative "Time saved" indicator.
Here's how it works. A user downloads and installs the client and begins
browsing the web as she normally would. In the background, the Google Web
Accelerator employs a number of techniques to speed up the delivery of
content to users.


If it goes through all the links on a page and caches the pages that are linked to imagine our bandwidth! There should be a way to block it and we may need to. If you see a big increase in your hits soon this may be the cause. |shocking|


"Google Web Accelerator makes your Internet access go faster by routing your Web surfing through Google's servers"

It's a caching proxy server with some prefeching, right? Seems to me that this will have an overall net effect of saving bandwidth.

natalie 2005-05-04 11:14 PM

Well the guys on webmasterworld seem to be saying it will slow the net down and create higher bandwidth for webmasters

cd34 2005-05-04 11:33 PM

Netscape has provided support for prefetching for a while. The reason you could use more bandwidth is that if you have a page with 4 links, and the surfer fetches those 4 links in the background, and then doesn't visit them, yes, you are going to use extra bandwidth.

However, google says it also is a caching proxy, your bandwidth utilization will go down because google will serve it rather than you serving it.

The other thing that I am sure they are doing to make things serve faster is partial & multiple gets where they have 4 separate connections, each grabbing a different piece of the file. While there are 4 connections going, they still only download the file once. No real increase in bandwidth, but, the surfer uses 4 connections rather than 1 which can sometimes cause servers to exceed maxclients depending on the config.

I don't think it is as traumatic as people are saying -- its nothing that hasn't been around for years anyhow. Just that not as many people have quite the exposure or trust that google has and it might become much more prevalent, but, I really doubt it is going to change things too much.

Joe 2005-05-05 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natalie
Well the guys on webmasterworld seem to be saying it will slow the net down and create higher bandwidth for webmasters

Although most of the guys on WMW spread rumors faster than lightning, I think they may be onto something here-- And I get what they're thinking.

MadMax 2005-05-05 09:37 PM

I'm going to look farther into this before coming to a conclusion, but I don't like what I'm seeing so far. However, the sky is not yet falling :)

Cleo 2005-05-05 09:44 PM

Isn't this the same thing that ISPs have been advertising for awhile?

I would think the spreading of faster and faster broadband will have a much greater effect then what this might add.

Verbal 2005-05-06 03:59 PM

I unistalled this app.. it's pure evil.
Read this: http://google.blognewschannel.com/in...s-accelerator/

Verbal 2005-05-06 04:17 PM

and this: http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2858


Google is essentially creating a copy of the world wide web and serving it "faster" from their servers. Aside from the huge privacy issues (Google seeing/storing everything you see online), GWA has also been breaking things like forums and letting people login as someone else.

You can block GWA, by banning the IP address ranges:
72.14.192.0 – 72.14.192.255

airdick 2005-05-06 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbal
and this: http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2858


Google is essentially creating a copy of the world wide web and serving it "faster" from their servers. Aside from the huge privacy issues (Google seeing/storing everything you see online), GWA has also been breaking things like forums and letting people login as someone else.

You can block GWA, by banning the IP address ranges:
72.14.192.0 – 72.14.192.255


AOL has a ton of caching proxy servers, and a few of the larger European ISPs also run big caches. Cache is pretty much a good thing, I would much rather have Google, AOL, or some other ISP serve up my content to their customers than to be using my own bandwidth.

MadMax 2005-05-07 06:34 AM

Sure, but how often will they re-cache? Now that I've read more I'm definitely irritated. Once people got used to browsing the google version of the web the sky would be the limit. How 'bout if G decided you didn't need all those pesky ref-codes in your links?


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