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tickler 2005-06-21 07:37 PM

Another below the belt from AG
 
They gotta be insane to stretch it this far. |angry|
http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=231211

guitar riff 2005-06-21 09:47 PM

Say Hello to the N.W.O some say it will never happen but don't look now batman but its all coming into view

amber438 2005-06-21 09:59 PM

You know, I'm reading all this legal crap mumbo jumbo and thinking, this whole thing has become truly out of hand. By whole thing I mean our govt. and it's assinine ways.

What ever happened to this:


"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,–That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States."

The Declaration of Independence goes on the list the transgressions of the then King of England against the colonies and declares that, because of these, they are a self-declared free self-governing country and if King George doest like it to come kick their asses.

They were rebels, accused of treason, etc, and fought to the death for what they believed in.

And now look at what we, their legacy, have become. And by we, I mean the elected officials in govt. Seperation of church and state is gone. Personal liberties have slowly been taken away, almost without our registering it. We have become the parents of our neighbors children. Our brave soldiers are fighting and dying in a war brought on because our President has a father complex.

I am truly disgusted and taken aback at the sorry situation in the US today. And I love my country very much. I guess that's why it hurts so damned much.

guitar riff 2005-06-21 10:49 PM

Yeah what made me laugh to myself was when it was said today we went to war in Iraq because of 9/11 what kinda bullshit is that first was WMD thats nt there now there is another excuse Wish they could maeke up our minds HAHAH

terry 2005-06-21 11:47 PM

Man.. im at a loss for words.

Pusher 2005-06-21 11:56 PM

Hey Folks - I don't want to be an alarmist, but this is EXACTLY how FACISM starts...

My wife and I are seriously considering moving to a country with REAL FREEDOM -like Canada.

Sorry to say, but this country isn't worth fighting for anymore :(

binxgook 2005-06-22 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pusher
Hey Folks - I don't want to be an alarmist, but this is EXACTLY how FACISM starts...

My wife and I are seriously considering moving to a country with REAL FREEDOM -like Canada.

Sorry to say, but this country isn't worth fighting for anymore :(

Me and the naughtybabs had the exact same conversation yesteday :(

tickler 2005-06-22 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by terry
Man.. im at a loss for words.

Yeah, I wasn't even sure how to title this post.

Like really, because the pen you use was made somewhere else or your hard drive or who knows what, they can upsurp the states rights to make their own laws in areas that the feds have no constitution rights. BS

Hopefully, they will be able to pull W. after being caught in a bald faced lie like the WMDs. Seems like the oil prices are up again and who's family is in the oil business.

Hey Pusher, it's not bad up here, and they are talking now and then about picking up one of the Carribean islands.

Useless 2005-06-22 12:25 AM

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The U.S. Supreme Court told a lower court to reconsider a decision that trimmed the power of federal prosecutors to press cases against child pornographers
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...case against Florida resident Alvin Smith for producing lewd photographs of young girls
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Smith was convicted in U.S. District Court in Florida of one count each of producing and possessing child porn, violating §§ 2251(a) and 2252A(a)(5)(B) of the U.S. criminal code, Title 18
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At the 11th Circuit, the Justice Department argued that the [child porn] photos had a connection to interstate commerce ...
How many of you possess child pornography? Get back to work.

Mishi 2005-06-22 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
How many of you possess child pornography? Get back to work.

It's the marijuana case that's disturbing. IMO the federal gov't CLEARLY overstepped its bounds on this one. I'm flabbergasted that the Supreme Court ruled the way it did. (I'm even more flabbergasted that I found myself agreeing with Clarence Thomas, who dissented on the court's opinion.)

As far as CP goes, I don't care if it's a jaywalking bust that gets the fuckers tossed...but we still must be wary.


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