I want to start LL
 

Tell me some reasons why I should start one and the reasons why I shouldn't start one.

and tell me why did you start one. Thnx.

everyone says that its waste of time, but i dont belive them ;)
i started with my LL 2 days ago, still a lot to work on it

"I want to open a hardware store"

"Why"

"No idea"

Not sure why you'd need anyone to tell you why to start a link list. You should know the answer already.

I joined up here a few months ago thinking that I wanted to run a link list too.
Now that goal has become a mere long term possibility.
I'm stressing possibility by the way.

My advice is to start reading and get used to reading a lot. Absorb every piece of information and advice and think things through thoroughly.

If you still want to do it then start reading everything you missed while you were reading the other stuff.
And then read some more.

I don't run a link list but the point I'm making is research loads before you jump in.
Of course you may have already been doing that.
In my opinion this forum is an excellent place to start. The folks here don't sugar-coat anything and that's vital in the learning process.
:)

Great post KG Gary. Thnx.

I know why I want to start LL. I don't want to waste my 404 traffic and I want to get better position on SE.

I wanted to ask you guys which are the good things when you have LL and which are bad.

Then build a good hub on your index and send your 404 traffic to your hub.

Your conversions will be better on your free-sites and as for time/effort/expense vs. income for a new linklist, there is no comparison...stick with free-sites as they are far more profitable in the short term.

I'm not saying this because I'm afraid of new competition...I'm saying this because no one warned me -- now mind you I enjoy running a LL far more then I did creating free-sites so I'm happy. A linklist will take a long time and a lot of effort to become profitable and there's tons of competition already out there.

Damn, that deserved repeating |thumb

Thanks Mr Yum - I'm only echoing what I've learned since joing GG&J.

So in reality it's you kind folks that deserve the |thumb

DEAR SIR:

May be the answer to your questions is the same: Money.

I believed that the best for 404 traffic was to send it to a fake TGP and I maked: CoolPornTGP .

Best regards,

TALLEYRAND

DEAR SIR:

mmmmkay

I'm working on a new Link List with all my free time these days - I had the admin installed 10/25 & I'm probably still 2 weeks away from accepting submits & then hopefully I can open it to surfers when I get back form Vegas - nice little 10 week process just to set this fucker up.

Moral of the story is if you want to do it for a quick $, think twice - this is not one of those "Oh what the fuck...I'll start a Link List" things.

The best thing about a LL is that when it is finally making a profit (which can take 2 years) it is something worthwhile and can be built more after that - the worst thing is it usually takes a good 2 years to see a steady income.

If you are just looking for something to run your free site traffic to - definitely agree with the others - a hub is the best way to go - of course a hub can become a LL eventually :)

sorry, hub is a list of my free sites? |huh

Yep a hub lists your free sites - of course it can also be your main traffic point (hence the name hub) where you direct everything to be filtered through - and not only list your own free sites, but hosted free sites, links out to different niche hubs you might want to build so that you become basically everything a LL is eventually

There's some great information regarding hubs is this thread:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=24967


My understanding is that a hub is a small site, or even a single page, that links your sites together.

I think that the idea is to have many hubs linking to your sites in your nice cosy network of porn, mixing in plenty of hosted free sites and maybe a full page ad here and there.

I think the consensus is that, (among other things), you use your hubs to help keep Joe Surfer bouncing around within your network of sites until he buys something or goes.

But when does a hub become a linklist? I would imagine that the answer is "whenever you want it to".
I could be wrong though - I'm a new guy and I'm British. Somebody please correct me if I'm talking garbage!
:)

If I had my time again... I would not have started a LL... it's like renovating an old house - dig a very big pit and throw wads of time into it (rinse repeat)

First off - one of my favorite sites has always been a British site called The Garbage Dump :) http://www.garbage.co.uk/

Second - you are partially correct on the hubs - I guess my favorite term has always been the "trap" - basically if you can imagine a little web of "entry pages" that are niche specific - and use those as your links off of free sites to find out if the surfer really is interested in midget tranny femdoms - or if maybe they are interested in "something else" - which you present a list of after you really hype the best damn tranny midget femdom site out there - then you can send that same surfer into your web of sites (the central hub) to find their real fixation that will grab that CC out of their wallet and they will be begging you to sell to them :)

So a good way to visualize this would be a central listing of your sites, hosted free sites etc with branches off to satellite pages that are niche specific - each with its own "moons circling" that are even more specific within that niche

And yes the whole idea is to give them enough options that they dont need to go anywhere else - if by the time you figure out - through the mazes of your sites - that they arent gonna buy anything - then you now have a surfer to send off in trade to a toplist or other way of getting you some return traffic in trade :)

.....and there we have another quality Linkster explanation.
Read and understood.
Thanks yet again.
I think I'll go take a look at that site now. I may be some time....
:)