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Porn Junkie 2008-02-27 02:42 AM

Email Submits VS Online Form
 
Whats your opinion?

My new LL can do form submits, but right now I am using submits via email. I don't have any captcha, would just be a regular submit form.

Can't decide whether to activate the online form or not. |huh
thoughts?

SheepGuy 2008-02-27 03:22 AM

Strange as it may sound, auto-submitters haven't figured out e-mail yet :D

Porn Junkie 2008-02-27 03:27 AM

do auto-submitters seem to target any LL they find or do they usually harass established LL's?

SheepGuy 2008-02-27 03:48 AM

No idea buddy, I've never had an auto submitter ;)

Lemmy 2008-02-27 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porn Junkie (Post 390789)
do auto-submitters seem to target any LL they find or do they usually harass established LL's?

These guys don't discriminate based on the size of your LL, they'll hit anybody. From personal experience a script that requires you to sign up for an account weeds them out better than captcha.

E-mail submits? You'd have to be nuts. :D

ladydesigner 2008-02-27 07:20 AM

As someone that ran a link list for years with email submits, I'd have to advise against it. It was a HUGE pain in the ass. I'd never do that again. Unlike SheepGuy, I got email form spam all the time. I had the submits coming into my outlook email program and it wasn't fun. I'm so glad I use script forms now. Just my opinion.

NY Jester 2008-02-27 07:21 AM

There are pro's and con's of both. I personally dont think it matters in a way of submitting. I dont mind taking the time to email my submissions to any who choose to set up there sites in that fashion. I feel its personal choice as to what works best for the individual. I feel Im getting the opportunity to post an advertisment for my sponsor and hopefully make a sale from it, which in turn puts $$ in my pockets. The least I can do is uphold the rules and submit with their chosen means.

My 2 cents

Greenguy 2008-02-27 10:26 AM

I've had a form for 8 years without a captcha - sure, it's a pain in the ass at times, but it's a hell of a lot easier/faster than putting the info in by hand with copy/paste from an email.

borgivan 2008-02-27 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SheepGuy (Post 390788)
Strange as it may sound, auto-submitters haven't figured out e-mail yet :D

Maybe my English is bad, but I understood you mean, autosubmitters can't post via e-mail? Thats bull shit :D I used Mighty submitter, it can post via e-mail too, it can many things at all! But as for me, I never used this function.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SheepGuy (Post 390791)
No idea buddy, I've never had an auto submitter ;)

And what are you proud of ? :D If submitter is used for multiposting, it is bad (questionable), but if it is used to automate form-filling, it is very good! :D

japamor 2008-02-27 11:09 AM

I would say stick to conventional forms.
As a submitter if I came across an LL which needed me to send an Email to submit, I was immediately put off. Unless the LL was something special in the way of traffic I just wouldn't bother. :)

NY Jester 2008-02-27 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by japamor (Post 390874)
I would say stick to conventional forms.
As a submitter if I came across an LL which needed me to send an Email to submit, I was immediately put off. Unless the LL was something special in the way of traffic I just wouldn't bother. :)


Than by doing so, youve missed out on at least half a dozen quality LL submissions from GG&J board members right there. And thats all well and good..I always try and kepe any LL that use email within the same recip table and submit to them at one time.

Porn Junkie 2008-02-27 05:19 PM

well, doing it by email has allowed me to open communication with a couple people and I'm sure may more.

Forms are by far easier, but I did accidently delete a couple and now I'm parinoid that there were more.

I suppose I could put it up and see how it goes. Can always go back to email if things turn bad.

borgivan 2008-02-27 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porn Junkie (Post 390933)
Forms are by far easier, but I did accidently delete a couple and now I'm parinoid that there were more.

Russian saying (word for word): In skillful hands, cock is a balalaika. But give a cut-glass cock to a stupid girl, she will smash it, and cut herself.

I'm about what... if many people use forms, it's not without purpose :D

Porn Junkie 2008-02-27 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borgivan (Post 390935)
Russian saying (word for word): In skillful hands, cock is a balalaika. But give a cut-glass cock to a stupid girl, she will smash it, and cut herself.

I'm about what... if many people use forms, it's not without purpose :D

I don't know whether your calling me stupid or saying to just do what everybody else does cause it HAS to be the right way.

Either way, bike racks after school!

borgivan 2008-02-28 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porn Junkie (Post 390939)
I don't know whether your calling me stupid or saying ...

To say that man is stupid is just the same as call yourself so, I have much more brain, so never call anibody stupid. I mean that many people use forms. This is comfortable, and they are pleased with it. What for to invent bicycle? You want to comunicate with your posters? Then use comments or just post your e-mail. Who need to contact you - will contact you :D

papagmp 2008-02-28 08:51 AM

As a submitter - I highly prefer submitting via email!

As an LL owner, I also like the emails. I've never activated the script I built cuz the email seams to wok for now.

I agree with NY J. - you're missing out on a few great LL's if you pass up on the email submissions.

Surprising as it may be, I've never used my submit email for anything but submits and I haven receive one single spam to date. I'm sure this will change sooner than later but for now, I love the email thing.

Just my 2cents

koalaTalex 2008-03-04 04:50 PM

As a submitter: give me a submit form. When scoping out a new link list potential if I see 'submit by email' I move on, it is easier to do it all the same way, especially when submitting to multiple link lists everyday which is a very tedious task as it is.

On another note when a potential LL says 'sign up for partner account' I am actually more interested in it. I always feel better about submitting to someone that has seen my sample sites and has approved my partner account, then I know I have a greater chance of being listed at their LL.

jackbdirty 2008-03-05 12:50 AM

Script forms is the way to go

secretagentwilly 2008-03-05 01:03 AM

web form all day long baby...i'm going for a combination of speed and accuracy trying to submit to as many LL as I can each day...email submissions slow that down

ronnie 2008-03-05 08:22 AM

I agree with others that e-mail by hand is a pain in the ass, did it when I first started. After I went to form/automated, got alot more done. Bots are going to find forms, whether they are e-mail or script. Least with captcha you have a fighting chance. Like Greenguy said, too much copy and paste, ect.

I am with others, when I come across submits that need to be e-mailed, I move on as well, guess I am missing out too..:) Not to mention, e-mail is no where near 100%, if your concerned about losing submits, I'd be more concerned losing e-mails.

LD 2008-03-05 09:25 AM

Some of my favorite places to submit are email. I find it actually easier although it's a bit of a break in routine, but either way is fine for me. And like some have mentioned there are some really good quality email only list.

For my own linklist, I like the things I can do with my script. I can put 25 newest sites without the description one place, then put them another place, with descriptions, icons or whatever, sorted in a number of different ways. It's great having so many options in presenting the links on my site.

Not to mention database management like checking for redirects and the like...and valuable statistics like which sites are more popular, which submitters use the same cat over and over...Personally I wouldn't want to have a linklist without a script.


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