what the fuck PA
 

This was just posted on PA Webmaster board:....

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They have known this since Nov and has never past it on to anyone thats with PA|bullshit|. Payments have been running month late for a couple of months now.
I am looking for a new home. I have 8 sites and 2 large ones. If any one has an Idea I am listening. I use my own content and don't have the bucks for my own Merchant account.
Mike|banghead|

I'll show my ignorance....who's PA?

PROADULT

Ahhh, the joys of AVS :)

Just heard
 

Just heard from John on the board and he is not sure why that was posted and said nothing has changed. Phew....|bananna|

I still get my rebill payouts from Proadult and have not promoted them in 5 years. :)

LMAO.. when I saw this title.. i thought it was referring to the PA primary last tuesday. |jester|

Not Sure
 

Still trying to figure out what is really going on. Time will tell.
Peace Mike|headbang|

Damn... and here I thought was my perfect opportunity to refer to PA as Pittsburgh on one side, Philly on the other and Alabama in between.

i was thinking the same , because pa is the word we use in holland to name your dad:D

Lmao I thought P.A. was a nickname personally, since one of my best friends is P>A. for Phillip Allen :-)

I could not have guessed who PA was

What's the current situation? I see some drama over at the zoo re: ProAdult owing a bunch of people money, many of them in 5-figures.

They are toast as far as I can figure, and they owe me a lot of money, though not 5 figures. If you count future rebills though it's a fuckova lot more and I'd be surprised if some wm's don't lose 6 figures..
I'm losing more proportionately than I did when AC fucked everyone.
They've even removed their wm forum.

Damn, that really sucks, SheepGuy (and Mike).

You know, I'm wondering if AVN sites are still good risks -- worth putting time into developing and updating -- considering how much $$$ can be lost all at once when a company like AC or PA changes policies, changes hands, or closes down.

bad news..

King dead - salute king!

Welcome to |spam|

That's one of the bests descriptions of PA I've ever heard. |headbang|

While they certainly have an interesting "Regards Programm" I think I'll pass.

Aaah sure they are, remember when IBill went tits up? Shit happens in all areas of this business. Also, it takes me only slightly more time to build an AVS site than a free site, and the advertising inside is just as profitable.
Moving an AVS site from one company to another is not a big deal time-wise either, though moving 135 of them is taking me some time :(
This whole thing will actually work out to my advantage. PA didn't allow advertising inside their sites as much as the two companies I'm switching their sites over to, NetVerifier and CyberAge, so in a couple of months I'll be back to normal and after that I should be making more money than I was before all of this shit happened.

I do VERY well with CyberAge, and a bit less with Net Verifier. I swapped out all my join form for all my sites from PA (which were mirrors of sites on CyberAge) back to CyberAge.

To me, CyberAge really invests a lot of time and money with their models, and content, I don't see them going away any time soon. I'd be |cry| if they did, because I'd say a good 1/3 of my adult income is from my sites with them.

Mike-mijen, I'd suggest either Net Verifier or CyberAge. Net Verifier pays better, but I convert CyberAge better. So it is a toss-up on which does better.

Sheepguy, where will you be moving them to? I only have 2-3 sites with them, so maybe to Cyberage, where I already have an account. This sucks, I hate having to mess with old sites :(

Time to move my 1 premium site I have so far to cyberage it seems. :) I had a little network of AVS sites in mind so maybe this development comes right on time.

I'm moving about two thirds to NetVerifier, the rest to CyberAge. I like NetVerifier simply because they pay better and my sites convert a little better with them. RedCherry does better with CA though, and both are good outfits. NV has a deal on for new webmasters though where they give you 100% payouts for the first 60 days so if I didn't have an account there I would get one. It's also a very good idea to mirror your sites with different AVS's.

Yeah thats gotta be a real bitch SG (and Mike) - hope you cna get all straightened out. Sucks when you put good faith in a service and they dry hump your ass till you bleed.

With tube sites being all the rage, I can't imagine that AVS sites might still do that well.