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JPeez 2009-09-21 07:19 PM

What do you think?
 
Hi Everyone,

I'm new to this website and also new to adult websites! I just bought my very first adult website recently and hopefully it'll be successful so I can get more sites in the future! Check it out and tell me what you think: HolyXXX

HowlingWulf 2009-09-22 12:08 PM

Are you trying to sell anything? Why would anyone buy with all those long porn vids?

mjgcny 2009-09-22 12:50 PM

HW made a good point...what do you expect to sell when you're giving the surfer a reason NOT to buy a membership to get quality porn, and be satisfied with crappy 10 minute long videos?

And maybe it's just me, but why do you condone having categories like unconscious & forced?

That just equates/suggests rape in my book. I personally would never list shit like that.

rageinthe813 2009-09-22 03:49 PM

Good luck in your new endeavor

JPeez 2009-09-22 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HowlingWulf (Post 464908)
Are you trying to sell anything? Why would anyone buy with all those long porn vids?

I wasnt planning on offering paid packages, but if I ever did it would probably be for high definition. I was hoping to make money by monetizing traffic.

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Originally Posted by mjgcny (Post 464912)
HW made a good point...what do you expect to sell when you're giving the surfer a reason NOT to buy a membership to get quality porn, and be satisfied with crappy 10 minute long videos?

And maybe it's just me, but why do you condone having categories like unconscious & forced?

That just equates/suggests rape in my book. I personally would never list shit like that.

In my opinion, a surfer is browsing my website because they are looking for free porn. Now I might be looking at this the wrong way, but if came to my website because I had been looking for free videos, the last thing I'm going to be interested in is paying for them. So I just don't see a point in trying to sell anything... I feel like it would be a waste of time and resources. Do you agree, or do you see this another way?

Also, those two categories were on the website already when I purchased it. No videos have been added since then, and there is no rape in there. I already checked to make sure.

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Originally Posted by rageinthe813 (Post 464934)
Good luck in your new endeavor

Thanks :)

HowlingWulf 2009-09-22 08:09 PM

So how do you plan to monetize traffic of surfers looking for free porn?

SheepGuy 2009-09-22 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JPeez (Post 464952)
Now I might be looking at this the wrong way, but if came to my website because I had been looking for free videos, the last thing I'm going to be interested in is paying for them. So I just don't see a point in trying to sell anything... I feel like it would be a waste of time and resources. Do you agree, or do you see this another way?

If you don't see a point in trying to sell anything why are you in this business? Or any business?

mjgcny 2009-09-22 09:11 PM

JPeez, wasn't trying to insinuate that you intentionally were posting anything to do with forced sex/rape, just pointing out (which I should have made clearer) that those categories attract the wrong type of surfer...those sick monkeys actually looking for that type of thing.

Having that type of content just lends to a bad situation. I do apologize if you took it the wrong way.

But all the more power to you for trying to break into the adult biz. It's not easy tho...and it looks like you have a pretty good base to start with, but why not try to monetize it? Help yourself make some money, and help the rest of us (and you) clean up the cluster fuck of free porn tubes that are causing all of us to lose money in the meantime.

But, just my 2cents worth :)

LeRoy 2009-09-22 09:15 PM

Yah selling memberships would be tough since you already give it away for free.

However Tube Sites convert cams, toys and dating really well though.

Good luck

JPeez 2009-09-22 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HowlingWulf (Post 464953)
So how do you plan to monetize traffic of surfers looking for free porn?

For now, just banking on CPM and PPC. I'm real new to this so I'm sure I'm not nearly as creative as the rest of you when it comes to monetizing adult traffic!!

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Originally Posted by SheepGuy (Post 464954)
If you don't see a point in trying to sell anything why are you in this business? Or any business?

I just don't see the point in trying to sell something on this type of website where the majority of my visitors are looking for free content... if they have to pay to watch they will just move on to the next free content website. But maybe like LeRoy said, I can link to some type of Cam Website affiliate program or something like that.

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Originally Posted by mjgcny (Post 464955)
JPeez, wasn't trying to insinuate that you intentionally were posting anything to do with forced sex/rape, just pointing out (which I should have made clearer) that those categories attract the wrong type of surfer...those sick monkeys actually looking for that type of thing.

Having that type of content just lends to a bad situation. I do apologize if you took it the wrong way.

I hear you man, thanks for lookin out. And that does make sense to me now... about attracting the wrong type of surfers. I could see how that could happen in this case. I will think about cleaning up those sections a bit when I have more content. At the moment, there isn't much on there for a Tube site, so I feel like I'm doing more harm than good by deleting anything at this stage.

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But all the more power to you for trying to break into the adult biz. It's not easy tho...and it looks like you have a pretty good base to start with, but why not try to monetize it?
Well I'm glad you think I have a pretty good base to start with... that makes me feel a little better haha.

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Help yourself make some money, and help the rest of us (and you) clean up the cluster fuck of free porn tubes that are causing all of us to lose money in the meantime.
What do you mean by this? The part where you said, "and help the rest of us (and you) clean up the cluster fuck of free porn tubes that are causing all of us to lose money in the meantime." - can you please explain more?

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But, just my 2cents worth :)
Well worth it :)

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Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 464956)
Yah selling memberships would be tough since you already give it away for free.

However Tube Sites convert cams, toys and dating really well though.

Good luck

Yeah, I'm definitely not interested in selling memberships on this website! Maybe one day I can make a pay site, but I'm still crawling at this point... not even at the baby steps yet. Maybe it would be a good idea to find a cam or dating affiliate website to promote on my website?

Noobster 2009-09-23 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JPeez (Post 464959)
For now, just banking on CPM and PPC.

So are you planning on running your own CPM/PPC Program where you charge the advertisers or using something like the adsense model where you get paid per 1000 impressions etc?

Licker4U 2009-09-23 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JPeez (Post 464952)
I was hoping to make money by monetizing traffic.

And how do you plan on doing that?

You mentioned a waste of time and resources. That whole site is a waste of time and resources as it is now.

I think what most people are getting at is what is the purpose of this site? No one puts up free porn just because people are looking for free porn. What would be the point of that? Surfers looking for free porn just might buy if they get interested enough. I would put links all over that site to cam sites, dating sites and sign up as an affiliate with some good porn sponsors and link to their sites.

Noobster 2009-09-23 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Licker4U (Post 465008)
I think what most people are getting at is what is the purpose of this site?

Exactly. I'm just a little puzzled how it can make you money as it stands. You mention CPM, I only know of adsense and they don't allow participation with adult content see section 5. https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms And with CPC you'll probably need to be running your own program and have to 'sell' your traffic figures to your advertisers. Also, do you have permission to use the content there seems to be some full(ish) length movies in there from some well known producers.

JustRobert 2009-09-23 03:54 PM

I have seen ads on there to dating and a few other free signup style sites including one that had hun in a folder of the url so I get the feeling its being monetized and quite possibly not a newbie but doing this to pick up back links. JustMyOpinion, I could be wrong.

The biggest question for me is what Noobster also questioned:
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Originally Posted by Noobster (Post 465023)
Also, do you have permission to use the content there seems to be some full(ish) length movies in there from some well known producers.

So, do you have proper licenses for the content on the tube site you bought/built? As long as you have paid for the content and cut them up into 13 min vids then you can do whatever you like and I wish ya luck.

kickass 2009-09-23 04:51 PM

Welcome and good luck! :)

DatingGold CT 2009-09-23 06:38 PM

Some really good points. I agree that surfers looking at "free-porn" may end up paying for it at some point, it all depends, but if you're used to getting something for free it better blow your socks off to make you want to pay for it.


Monetizing this kind of traffic is sometimes tricky but can be done. Affiliate programs with Free Signup or Trial options are good because you can cater to the "freebie" user. Cams are cool too, because they offer the "free user" something they can't get...a live one-on-one show or a pre-recorded show from a girl they like...ect.

I see plenty of porn sites running CPC (obviously not google) but I'm not sure how profitable in the long run this can be. I know its gratifying to build earning everyday...but it seems like counting pennies to me. Mainstream and Porn...CPC has been a waste of time for me....display or affiliate ads are the way to go.

Just my .02...love the look of the site, you do have a great base to work with and shouldn't have a problem growing the site. Best of luck and let us know how it all turns out.

JPeez 2009-09-23 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Noobster (Post 464966)
So are you planning on running your own CPM/PPC Program where you charge the advertisers or using something like the adsense model where you get paid per 1000 impressions etc?

Well, there is always JuicyAds where people will pay for Ad spots on my website, but I havent tried them yet. I've only had the site for a couple weeks and I decided to try AWW first, so that's what is on there now.

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Originally Posted by Licker4U (Post 465008)
And how do you plan on doing that?

You mentioned a waste of time and resources. That whole site is a waste of time and resources as it is now.

I think what most people are getting at is what is the purpose of this site? No one puts up free porn just because people are looking for free porn. What would be the point of that? Surfers looking for free porn just might buy if they get interested enough. I would put links all over that site to cam sites, dating sites and sign up as an affiliate with some good porn sponsors and link to their sites.

Okay, it seems like most people here so far would agree that putting some type of cam or dating site affiliate links on my website might be the best bet. I will try this soon... there are so many to pick from!

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Originally Posted by Noobster (Post 465023)
Exactly. I'm just a little puzzled how it can make you money as it stands. You mention CPM, I only know of adsense and they don't allow participation with adult content see section 5. https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms And with CPC you'll probably need to be running your own program and have to 'sell' your traffic figures to your advertisers. Also, do you have permission to use the content there seems to be some full(ish) length movies in there from some well known producers.

I'm using AWW, but so far it has not been very successful. I think I still need a lot more traffic.

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Originally Posted by JustRobert (Post 465030)
I have seen ads on there to dating and a few other free signup style sites including one that had hun in a folder of the url so I get the feeling its being monetized and quite possibly not a newbie but doing this to pick up back links. JustMyOpinion, I could be wrong.

Those are just the AWW ads that you are seeing... lol

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So, do you have proper licenses for the content on the tube site you bought/built? As long as you have paid for the content and cut them up into 13 min vids then you can do whatever you like and I wish ya luck.
As far as I know, my 2257 Compliance Statement and DMCA Notice has that covered, but please correct me if I'm wrong because honestly I'm new to this and not 100% sure about that.

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Originally Posted by kickass (Post 465036)
Welcome and good luck! :)

Thanks! :) Nice to meet you!

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Originally Posted by DatingGold CT (Post 465044)
Some really good points. I agree that surfers looking at "free-porn" may end up paying for it at some point, it all depends, but if you're used to getting something for free it better blow your socks off to make you want to pay for it.


Monetizing this kind of traffic is sometimes tricky but can be done. Affiliate programs with Free Signup or Trial options are good because you can cater to the "freebie" user. Cams are cool too, because they offer the "free user" something they can't get...a live one-on-one show or a pre-recorded show from a girl they like...ect.

I see plenty of porn sites running CPC (obviously not google) but I'm not sure how profitable in the long run this can be. I know its gratifying to build earning everyday...but it seems like counting pennies to me. Mainstream and Porn...CPC has been a waste of time for me....display or affiliate ads are the way to go.

Just my .02...love the look of the site, you do have a great base to work with and shouldn't have a problem growing the site. Best of luck and let us know how it all turns out.

That's exactly right, as of now that's all it is... "counting pennies" haha. I will have to add some affiliate links like you say. Just have to pick one out now. Glad you think the site looks decent. If anything, I will make the header look better once I have some money :)

Noobster 2009-09-24 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JPeez (Post 465048)
Well, there is always JuicyAds where people will pay for Ad spots on my website

Hey I didn't know this. I was always under the impression that juicy ads only offered paid for weekly/monthly spots I didn't know they had a CPM/PPC program which actually seems to be new (well at least to me) as it's in its beta form. I'm not sure if you can sign up as beta tester or whatever or when they'll have the public version available but could be worth looking out. I'll certainly keep that one in mind.

HowlingWulf 2009-09-24 12:50 PM

Well your 2257 states 'please kindly direct your request to the site for which the content was produced' but how to tell where the content was produced? Did you buy the content from a content provider? Are they all user uploads?

Also those adultadword spots show Family Guy porn, which I'm sure is copyrighted. You are responsible for that.

NY Jester 2009-09-25 03:45 PM

The thing with selling your own traffic to Juicy Ads or Choker Traffic or Traffic Holder or any other adult traffic broker is you actually need traffic and lots of it to sell off.


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