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IntelligentWebs · 2005-02-15, 11:44 AM

First, Luke... Yes, I redirected GayInform back to the IW servers. You knew GayInform was always a TopSites list for gay sites and were going to set it up again as a topsites site to allow others to reregister their sites again.

After over six months, the homepage still had "we had a server crash, please bear with us over the next few days while we rebuild" and very little else other than your own affiliate links - (almost as bad as the AE hompage saying announcement coming soon).

So yes, I took it back.

As for sales on JuicyDVD - The site is making sales daily and people are getting paid instantly.

I dont know where you are seeing a number of sales on JuicyDVD however there arent any on your account other than a $2.99 commission awarded for a "payment by other methods" order whose payment still hasnt been received and as such, commission still not validated.

As for AdultEarners.. I realise everyone is pissed off with us but let me explain a little...

Firstly, our main income came from ARS under their "child" accounts program - meaning that we got a commission on every sale generated from webmasters who had set up unique accounts for use with AdultEarners - ARS ended their EITF program at about the same time as their free trials which meant AE earnings dropped by about $10,000 a month overnight....

After a few months of trying to find suitable non-shaving sponsors, we thought we were back ontrack when some major changes occured at Hotmail, Yahoo and AOL with regards their spam filters etc - Our delivery rates dropped from 95% down to under 20%. Im sure that this is also the reason for the drop in payouts from other cash email programs - It has become extremely hard to bulk mail, even if it is personalized...

Myself and Panksy have been trying different delivery methods through Dec and Jan however because of the size of our mailouts, we are starting to find ourselves up against the wall and Im considering ending AdultEarners as a program.

We still have a few things to try however if it turns out that we do need to close AE then:

1: All webmasters will have a link within their account screens to download their own email database for their own use.

2: IW Commissions will be paid up to the point of official closure.

3: AE database will continue to run in the background collecting emails from forms on old pages etc, send promotions with wm codes if and when possible.

Whatever happens, we wont be shutting down AE completely - just not encouraging webmasters to promote it further, unless they are doing so to build/download their own lists without the need for custom programming.

If this does happen then I think it will be better overall for webmasters with lists of under 20,000 emails in AE.

A single webmaster can quite easily mail out an opt in list of his own to 20k, and will most likely get a good delivery rate - the problems for AE are caused when the numbers increase to 1m+ - Even though we are double opt in, our server IPs get blocked by most providers within 12hrs of starting a mail out - before we even get 1/4 of the way through....

Anyway, still a few things to try, Im still keeping my fingers crossed that Pansky can come up with a workable solution.

Russ
AE/IW

2005-02-15, 11:44 AM	#12
IntelligentWebs Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7	Reply Re AE First, Luke... Yes, I redirected GayInform back to the IW servers. You knew GayInform was always a TopSites list for gay sites and were going to set it up again as a topsites site to allow others to reregister their sites again. After over six months, the homepage still had "we had a server crash, please bear with us over the next few days while we rebuild" and very little else other than your own affiliate links - (almost as bad as the AE hompage saying announcement coming soon). So yes, I took it back. As for sales on JuicyDVD - The site is making sales daily and people are getting paid instantly. I dont know where you are seeing a number of sales on JuicyDVD however there arent any on your account other than a $2.99 commission awarded for a "payment by other methods" order whose payment still hasnt been received and as such, commission still not validated. As for AdultEarners.. I realise everyone is pissed off with us but let me explain a little... Firstly, our main income came from ARS under their "child" accounts program - meaning that we got a commission on every sale generated from webmasters who had set up unique accounts for use with AdultEarners - ARS ended their EITF program at about the same time as their free trials which meant AE earnings dropped by about $10,000 a month overnight.... After a few months of trying to find suitable non-shaving sponsors, we thought we were back ontrack when some major changes occured at Hotmail, Yahoo and AOL with regards their spam filters etc - Our delivery rates dropped from 95% down to under 20%. Im sure that this is also the reason for the drop in payouts from other cash email programs - It has become extremely hard to bulk mail, even if it is personalized... Myself and Panksy have been trying different delivery methods through Dec and Jan however because of the size of our mailouts, we are starting to find ourselves up against the wall and Im considering ending AdultEarners as a program. We still have a few things to try however if it turns out that we do need to close AE then: 1: All webmasters will have a link within their account screens to download their own email database for their own use. 2: IW Commissions will be paid up to the point of official closure. 3: AE database will continue to run in the background collecting emails from forms on old pages etc, send promotions with wm codes if and when possible. Whatever happens, we wont be shutting down AE completely - just not encouraging webmasters to promote it further, unless they are doing so to build/download their own lists without the need for custom programming. If this does happen then I think it will be better overall for webmasters with lists of under 20,000 emails in AE. A single webmaster can quite easily mail out an opt in list of his own to 20k, and will most likely get a good delivery rate - the problems for AE are caused when the numbers increase to 1m+ - Even though we are double opt in, our server IPs get blocked by most providers within 12hrs of starting a mail out - before we even get 1/4 of the way through.... Anyway, still a few things to try, Im still keeping my fingers crossed that Pansky can come up with a workable solution. Russ AE/IW