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Torn Rose · 2005-03-06, 09:27 PM

I think the issue at the bottom of this topic is the intent of the law. What Selena is referring to in regards of the laws being enforced in Indiana was due to this story that happen in Lafayette, IN

About 5 years ago a guy walked into a bar at 2:00pm, and on security tape it clearly showed him order 6 shots of Tequila, that he lined up in a row and downed 1 after the other in less than a half minute’s time. He then sat there and ordered 2 more shots and a chaser (beer) and he got up and left at 2:23pm

Less then ½ mile away a husband/wife driving in their car swerved to miss him, but their daughter and her fiancé were in the car behind them so the father got to see his daughter die in his review mirror as the girl, her fiancée and the dumb ass all died.

Yes it was this dumb ass’s fault, I knew him, he was a total waste of shit, but the bartender has to be smart enough to know 8 shots and a chaser in 23 minutes time is too much for ANYONE to do and then drive. The Intent of this law/laws is to stop stupid shit like the actions of this bartender and if it does happen then to hold those accountable.

I do not think that in a case of a guy walking in, orders a beer and leaves who then kills someone, that the bartender will be held responsible, unless there is absolute proof that the bartender was irresponsible since that is not the intent of the law. The intent was to stop serving people until they are shit faced drunk and then letting them drive on their own.

It’s like the BS we webmaster’s have to worry about with 2257. Can they break down our doors and take our pc’s? Yes. Has it happen? No, but we still have to be expecting that it can happen and make sure we are compliant.

A bartender has to make sure they know that giving a guy 8 shots and a chaser may make him impaired and they might want to call a cab or the cops if he tries to leave or leaves.

Personally, and I know most of you will not agree with me, but I think all alcohol should be banned at sporting events. Yes, I am one of those few people who go to a game to see a game.

I don’t mind tailgaters, and if they want to tie one on in the parking lot, more power to them, I just don’t like having beer spilled on me and sitting next to 20,000 to 112,000 drunken people. Most games last 3 hours, in most cases this is the time needed to sober up, so get rid of the alcohol in stadiums and arenas and the DUI rate will plummet.

But it wont happen, since $ is to be made so let’s just blame the little girl for walking on the sidewalk as the drunk driver plows her over…..

just MHO.

2005-03-06, 09:27 PM	#20
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	I think the issue at the bottom of this topic is the intent of the law. What Selena is referring to in regards of the laws being enforced in Indiana was due to this story that happen in Lafayette, IN About 5 years ago a guy walked into a bar at 2:00pm, and on security tape it clearly showed him order 6 shots of Tequila, that he lined up in a row and downed 1 after the other in less than a half minute’s time. He then sat there and ordered 2 more shots and a chaser (beer) and he got up and left at 2:23pm Less then ½ mile away a husband/wife driving in their car swerved to miss him, but their daughter and her fiancé were in the car behind them so the father got to see his daughter die in his review mirror as the girl, her fiancée and the dumb ass all died. Yes it was this dumb ass’s fault, I knew him, he was a total waste of shit, but the bartender has to be smart enough to know 8 shots and a chaser in 23 minutes time is too much for ANYONE to do and then drive. The Intent of this law/laws is to stop stupid shit like the actions of this bartender and if it does happen then to hold those accountable. I do not think that in a case of a guy walking in, orders a beer and leaves who then kills someone, that the bartender will be held responsible, unless there is absolute proof that the bartender was irresponsible since that is not the intent of the law. The intent was to stop serving people until they are shit faced drunk and then letting them drive on their own. It’s like the BS we webmaster’s have to worry about with 2257. Can they break down our doors and take our pc’s? Yes. Has it happen? No, but we still have to be expecting that it can happen and make sure we are compliant. A bartender has to make sure they know that giving a guy 8 shots and a chaser may make him impaired and they might want to call a cab or the cops if he tries to leave or leaves. Personally, and I know most of you will not agree with me, but I think all alcohol should be banned at sporting events. Yes, I am one of those few people who go to a game to see a game. I don’t mind tailgaters, and if they want to tie one on in the parking lot, more power to them, I just don’t like having beer spilled on me and sitting next to 20,000 to 112,000 drunken people. Most games last 3 hours, in most cases this is the time needed to sober up, so get rid of the alcohol in stadiums and arenas and the DUI rate will plummet. But it wont happen, since $ is to be made so let’s just blame the little girl for walking on the sidewalk as the drunk driver plows her over….. just MHO.